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#2576979 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by GoWings1905 on Yesterday, 09:21 PM

Holland is the king of the deadline band-aid. Just grab some old broken down players and say you improved the team for the playoffs. 

 

Can't wait to see Babs passive aggressively tossing Cole on the 4th line to rot away.

 

GET US A DMAN WORTH A DAMN.

 

18 goals, hits a ton, brings much needed size and physicality qualifies as broken down? It's not like Cole is this 36-year-old slug that can't skate either. Cole does improve the Red Wings for the playoffs -- that isn't just organizational lip service. 




#2576978 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by anthonyn66 on Yesterday, 09:21 PM

Detroit got a top 6 forward and gave up a second and two prospects, not even our elite ones

 

Janmark is good, but we're so deep down the middle it doesn't matter a whole lot

Backman would be behind Sproul, Hicketts, Ouellet, Marchenko anyway so who cares

 

What matters to me is we kept Mrazek Mantha Larkin AA XO Sproul and Marchenko which is awesome




#2576975 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by HockeytownRules19 on Yesterday, 09:19 PM

Holland is the king of the deadline band-aid. Just grab some old broken down players and say you improved the team for the playoffs. 

 

Can't wait to see Babs passive aggressively tossing Cole on the 4th line to rot away.

 

GET US A DMAN WORTH A DAMN.

 

Yeah bring a guy in who has scored 18 goals and has speed for a 36 yr old is terrible... give me a break... Erik Cole is a really good pick up




#2576955 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 09:08 PM

Like I said before I like cole and he's the guy I wanted us to get ... Also didn't think he would cost us this much though ... He could be a complete bust but i liked janmarks upside and even though our prospect pool is high doesn't mean we should just give them away for older ufa's

What's funny is just today on twitter I was going on to someone about how I hope janmark convinces backman to come down fulltime next year and now there both gone lol

 

You keep referencing his age, but I don't see how this is relevant considering he is about to be a UFA. How good is going to be next year or 2 years from now is meaningless. All that matters is how well will he perform in the next 3 months. His injury history is a bit concerning, but this was low risk so I don't see what the big deal is. You cant get something for nothing.




#2576948 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by kipwinger on Yesterday, 09:00 PM

I like it.  Cole should help play near the crease, which is something I wanted.  And we didn't give up too much to get him.  Backman made his own bed, so I'm not heart broken about that.  Janmark is a good prospect with a lot of upside, but you've got to give to get.  I remember when we traded Jarnkrok and sudden he became a "bust" that was too small, or too Euro, or too far down the depth chart.  None of that is true, and isn't about Janmark either.  But if he had no value, I doubt Nill would have wanted him.  This helps us now, without sacrificing much later.  I'm fine with it.




#2576945 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on Yesterday, 08:58 PM

 
I've followed Jarnkrok's time with Nashville this year, out of curiosity. They played him under 10 minutes for a good part of the year and he still has better numbers than most teams 4th liners. Just wait, Jarnkrok is far from done.
 
I, for one, don't understand why Holland routinely pays higher prices than all other teams for his acquisitions. Not only that...youd think we'd get at least a decent deal out of Yzerman or Nill...but it seems like they are more than happy to deal with Holland, and for good reason. Two decent prospects AND a 2nd for a 36 year old UFA? Two years ago the Stars couldn't of gave him away. Jarnkrok, by himself, is an overpayment for Legwand. Quincey was no where near worth a 1st. Everyone knew those things, the prices that were paid last year were 75% of what we gave for Legwand and it's basically the same this year. I've been nervous for a week, basically knowing we'd make a deal and knowing Holland would over pay. Im terrified that we'll get a good defenseman and trade a really good player. 
 
Are we going to resign Cole? It doesn't seem like it the way the roster is built. Everyone knew we wouldn't resign Legwand, and we shouldn't of...and we gave Jarnkrok for him and for a 1st round exit. I don't think we'll resign Cole, and is he really the piece that will put us over the edge? I think the dman that we should get is a bigger deal...and now we have 2 less prospects and Holland's favorite pick to trade off the table. The only guys left to trade are scary ones to lose.

Have you seen what other teams are paying this year?

This is a fair deal both ways.

And we had to make room for all the centers we drafted last year to come into the system.
Holmstrom, ehn, vahatalo, kadeykin, and turgeon.
Janmark isn't worth all this griping.


#2576931 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by Tr!PoD#19 on Yesterday, 08:55 PM

I like it. An upgrade on defense would be nice now.


#2576922 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on Yesterday, 08:48 PM

Phaneuf next?


I've been saying we were one power forward and one top D-man away from being a serious contender so if Kenny can somehow work magic and not give up a lot then our team becomes a favorite over night in my eyes.


#2576921 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by matt198913 on Yesterday, 08:48 PM

 
I sure hope so. Zidlicky would be a good get for us as well though


I mean its a no brainer if TO retains some salary.


#2576865 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by shoe on Yesterday, 08:24 PM

Guy comes to play in the playoffs.

 

Like the trade or hate it you will be cheering when he puts the puck in the net come playoffs, I bet my shoes on it.




#2576864 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by NYC Wings Fanatic on Yesterday, 08:23 PM

Cole gritty?!?!?! I'm missing something here

 

 

SCOUTING REPORT

From The Hockey News Scouting Report section::

 

Assets: Has great straight-ahead skating ability and work ethic. Hits anything that moves. Plays a gritty, in-your-face style and owns solid scoring instincts. Leads by example on the ice.

 

Flaws: Over time, his body has broken down due to the punishment that comes with playing a power forward's role. His abrasiveness will continue to be a concern moving forward.

 

Career Potential: Quality veteran power forward.

 

 

Did we already have anyone we could have described as "Hits anything that moves"? Cole sounds refreshingly gritty to me!




#2576832 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by Motown4013 on Yesterday, 08:11 PM

Cleary? I wouldn't even worry about cleary being in the lineup at all
Another thing we have to worry about cole is his back problems he's dealt with which is why we added the stipulation in the trade that he has to play half the games if we make it to the eastern finals
So if he f***s up his back next week again were f***ed

How are we F ed? It's not like we we going to put Backman in as his replacement if he is injured. Two guys that are not headed to the NHL for a gritty, big body guy who can score. I don't know why everyone is on the ledge here.


#2576831 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by rick zombo on Yesterday, 08:11 PM

I don't want anymore additions to this team unless we lose guys like weiss andersen miller kindl off our lineups

Dread to think what we'd give up next for some one who's not a 36 yr old ufa

Doesn't mean everything Kenny does is gold

 

Cole is a big north-south guy who is physical as hell and has 18G. He’s not just some 36 yr old scrub. 




#2576827 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on Yesterday, 08:09 PM

Cole is still fast, his skating is most likely his best asset, not helm fast, but he's fast.

Janmark would probably never play for us, and even if he did, I've never seen or read anything that puts his ceiling above a 3rd liner. The chances Backman ever played a game for us or even for the griffins was minimal.

The second round pick we gave up hurts a little, but if he gets hurt or we don't make the ECF we get a third rounder.
This doesn't sound like a bad deal at all.


#2576825 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on Yesterday, 08:09 PM

Abby + Franzen = Cole.

 

I think our top 6 just got way more dangerous and less one-dimensional.

 

Tatar - Datsyuk - Cole

Nyquist - Zetters - Abby

 

If Franzan can come back we'll be lookin even betta