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#2675409 Grand Rapids Griffins Playoff Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 08 May 2016 - 04:39 PM

Sproul with an absolute bomb! 2-1.

#2675402 ECSF : New York Islanders vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by joesuffP on 08 May 2016 - 03:39 PM

It may not be as obvious during the regular season but the playoffs really show how much weaker the East is compared to the West

#2675377 Kentucky Derby: Nyquist

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 08 May 2016 - 07:02 AM

Sheeesh people need to do their research before complaining about the names. 

#2675348 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 07 May 2016 - 07:52 PM

It's not loyalty. He wants someone to do the dirty work cause he's a playmaker who needs his space on ice. He doesn't care who it is. He needs big guys on his lines. He even liked having Mantha because of the net front presence. Not to mention Holmstrom way back in the day,

#2675118 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 04 May 2016 - 06:55 PM

I agree that Vatanen is a complimentary piece, and we need someone that is, or has a high probability of developing into a number one defenseman. aka Trouba.

I got to say though, I find it odd that you throw the "midget" word out there, and then you call someone out today for using the word "retarded"... I do think the latter word may be more offensive, but only slightly. Both are derogatory...

#2675125 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 04 May 2016 - 07:35 PM

You know what? I'm tired of people using "the pc police" as an excuse to continue to say s***ty things. It's not cool to be a racist. It's not cool to be a homophobe. It's not cool to use derogatory terms for special needs people. It's not people being "sensitive," it's people calling you out on your bulls***.

#2674783 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by chances14 on 01 May 2016 - 04:29 PM

the overreaction to this is quite hilarious


can't imagine what the reaction would be if an actual fraud company like amway got the naming rights. heck, there should be more hatred towards airline companies and banks. these companies have been ripping people off for years


little ceaser's has been associated with hockey in michigan for decades all the way back to the 70's with the start of the little ceaser's amateur league. Little Cesar's has done more to promote and devleop hockey in this area than any other company


it's a shame people are using something so petty such as their dislike of the pizza as the reason why the arena shouldn't be named after little Ceaser's

#2674761 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 01 May 2016 - 01:05 PM

Majority of the people in Michigan think Little Caesar pizza is terrible. They also think for $5 dollars sometimes it's worth it. When I need some cheap pizza on the go I stop by Little Caesars. When I need quality pizza I can name 25 other places in Michigan. And that doesn't even include Jets, Pizza Hut, Dominoes. 


Part of the reason people are "upset" with the name is just that ^.  Little Caesar's is terrible Pizza. It's low quality and crap grade. If they named it the Pizza Hut Arena it would probably be better received. 


Just listing some reasons why people have issue with the name. Illitch named it after his pizza business, which I get. But most people also think his pizza tastes bad and shouldn't be named for an original 6 legendary team arena.


The Red Wings are LEGEND-


wait for it.




Joe Louis (with his 66 wins and 52 by Knockout) was LEGEND 


wait for it.




Little Caesar's is not legendary.


Wings fans are spoiled. They want cool stuff. 


- Think about it this way. For years people in Michigan have made fun of Little Caesar's pizza. Just so happens that Pizza place is about to be named after their sports team arena. PAYBACK! 


Bottom line Wings fans are spoiled and think they are entitled.  Sorry but they aren't and that petition is a joke will not change a thing.  I'd be more concerned with the product on the ice rather than where that product is being played or the name of the arena it's played in.

#2674715 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 30 April 2016 - 11:52 PM

My offseason wishlist...

- Trade Pulkkinen along with our first to move up in the draft, and take Bean.
- Trade Ericsson (retain $1M) to Edmonton for 2016 3rd.
- Trade Howard to Carolina for low level prospect.
- Trade Tatar, Ouellet and 2017 first to Winnipeg for Trouba.
- Re-sign all RFA's.
- Re-sign Helm 5 years at $3.25M.
- Datsyuk plays out the remaining year of his contract.

Larkin - Datsyuk - Abdelkader
Nyquist - Zetterberg - Mantha
Athanasiou - Sheahan - Jurco
Helm - Glendening - Callahan

DeKeyser - Trouba
Smith - Green
Kronwall - Marchenko


#2674732 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 01 May 2016 - 09:57 AM

Again, some of you are taking it to extreme.

#2674729 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by DickieDunn on 01 May 2016 - 09:26 AM

1) the Skankees also charge more than an average mortgage to take your family to a game. They don't need the revenue.

2) Corporate naming rights are the norm, and it could have been worse.

3) It doesn't matter what they call it, if the team is good it will be packed, of the team sucks it will be empty.

#2674594 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by Buppy on 30 April 2016 - 12:32 AM


All big businesses take advantage of tax breaks. It's nothing new. It's easy to say tax payers will never see a cent, but this is an arena that will be there for decades. Money will be generated in the economy. It's the reason why tax payer money is used in these projects to begin with. If owners had to foot 100% of the bill for these arenas, 90% of the new buildings in the league wouldn't exist. No teams would make any money, where as the economy would still benefit from all the money spent at events all year round. The arena is great for the city, and that's why tax payer dollars go towards it. 


For the record, I think corporations getting tax breaks is garbage, but that is a completely different topic fit for somewhere else. But we'd take them as well if we were given the chance. Such is life. 

Well, there's data that says these arena deals are not good at all for the cities that make them, and I'd say that tax payer dollars go to them because politicians are dips***s who do dips*** things with other people's money. But I don't want to get too political. I'll just say that the DDA (the specific agency that will pay off the bonds) was a thing before the arena deal, and would still exist without it. It's an agency specifically created to do more or less exactly what it is doing with the arena. So if it wasn't the Illitch getting the money, it would be some other billion dollar development company. Given a choice between corporate welfare for a fancy new arena for a team I love, that I'll be able to enjoy for many, many years and corporate welfare for a new upscale condo development or office building or whatever thing I'd likely never know about because it wouldn't be newsworthy...well, I'll take the arena, even with a dumb name and an ugly, terrible-pizza-advertising, boring-non-LED roof.

#2674585 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by Buppy on 30 April 2016 - 12:10 AM

I honestly think he will gain something. I thought my post made that clear, but apparently not. What he's getting is advertising. What he's not getting is the additionally 125 million dollars from selling naming rights to a company that he doesn't own.

Little Caesars/Olympia Development/Illitch Holdings are massive corporations. It's not like he can walk into LC headquarters and grab $6M whenever he wants. The money is almost certainly to come out of funds already earmarked for marketing. The Illitch's and other higher-ups in the corporation have already taken their cut of the LC revenue, and now they'll get a piece of the naming rights revenue as well. I highly doubt there is any difference in "monetary gain" between selling it to his own company or an outside company.

#2674491 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by amato on 29 April 2016 - 03:05 PM

There's zero % chance trouba will ever be made available for an expansion draft ... They'd rather put Myers and enstrom before putting trouba up

Agreed. I read today that the NHL and NHLPA agreed on an expansion draft format and what to do about NTC/NMC but they didn't state what the agreement was..

But I remember something about the nhlpa wanting one or both of the clauses protected and in which case the jets may have too many to protect Trouba or something along those lines

Regardless, they're likely to trade someone this summer so they can get picks/prospects in return that they don't have to protect. 
If I'm a GM of a team that won't be a cup contender next year, I'm deciding now who to protect in the expansion draft and trading anyone outside of that of any value on draft day to stock the farm and land more picks. I would definitely not leave good players exposed and to lose for nothing. 

Yeah a looming expansion draft should do wonders for trades and speculation. I'm pretty excited to see how free agency/the draft unfolds across the league this year and next

#2674401 New arena construction updates

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 29 April 2016 - 12:24 AM

It's almost comical all those new arenas are over the top built, expensive as hell but lack soul, history and of course atmosphere

soo disappointed right now what in the name of is happening to this franchise? whatever the case it's not good

What's next free smartphones and WiFi in the arena? we are talking about the Red Wings here an original 6 team celebrate and embrace it instead of selling out like all the other teams

Though I've loved going to the Joe, the concourse had all the soul and atmosphere of a parking garage. I think the Joe was objectively a pretty crappy arena: inconvenient parking, trough bathrooms, UGLY from the outside, the inconvenient staircase entrance on one side, those shady portal walkways to get to the rink (went there with my Grandpa and he had trouble with the all the walking it took to get there), in a desolate part of town (maybe too harsh, but little is around it and it isn't a warm feeling part of town).


People learn to love those dingy aspects and call them character, but it was time for a change. History comes with time passing. I'm sure The Joe was criticized for it's modern design at some point.