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#2530777 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by krsmith17 on 09 July 2014 - 11:16 AM

Yes Dabura, let's mortgage the future. For what? A year of Green? No, thanks!

Jurco, in my mind is much more of a sure thing than either of Nyquist or Tatar. You're right he is 21, 2-3 years younger than either of the other guys, and has accomplished much more than either at the same age. I'm not saying we should trade any of these guys, because I would be crushed if we lost Nyquist or Tatar but if I were to say that only one is untouchable, it would without question be Jurco, hands down...

I'm not worried though, Jurco isn't going anywhere.

#2530765 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by kipwinger on 09 July 2014 - 10:26 AM

It's almost like they're negotiating.  Like, one side asks for something incredibly high.  And then the other side counters with something incredibly low.  And then they eventually work their way toward something palpable for each side.  Hmmm....

#2530536 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by frankgrimes on 08 July 2014 - 12:59 AM

Babcock is far from being the problem, the guy had been given a mediocre roster at best and yet coached them into the plaoffs 2 season in a row. I think the reception around the league is "very hard but fair" and that's exactly what you want from your coach. A coach isn't someone who can/should let his personal feelings disrupt his ability to ice the best roster he can with the given material.


Babcock got a bunch of superstars to play a team first game for him and absolutely crushed the olympics. Guy is by far the best coach in hockey and there is a reason why a guy like Super Mario is only offering a one year coaching contract (2 year payment).. Once Babcock is gone, people will start to realize how fortunate he were with him.

#2530505 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by nosyt612 on 07 July 2014 - 09:26 PM

This is a link to the puck daddy article for the 2012 nhlpa player poll, unfortunately it does not appear to be on the cbc's website any longer.  




Detroit ranks second as the team players would most like to play for and if my memory is correct Babs was in the top 3 for coaches that players wanted to play for.  Everyone is overreacting to us not getting every free agent we want.  As marcaractac laid out there's often good reasons people sign elsewhere. 


Edit:  Apparently I don't know how to work the internet sometimes, here's a link to the player poll (Babcock is 4th btw)



#2530454 Bryan Murray Diagnosed with Cancer

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 July 2014 - 04:00 PM

I didn't see this already being discussed, if there is one already please delete this one...


Once again, I am having trouble with my paste commands on here but if you go to detnews.com the article is there.


This is sad news, I hope he can beat it! I am having one tonight in honor of the man who help build our Dynasty!



quick little funny story, when he was coach/gm for us, I was pushing wheel chairs at metro and always was on the look out for NHL players traveling.  I ran into Bryan Murray on his way to GM meetings and they were in the middle of a 10-15 game unbeaten streak at the time. A lot of people were starting to recognize him and I jokingly asked him, "Its kind of hard to remain anonymous now-a-days isn't it?"  He laughed and answered yes. He then started asking about what I do at the airport and just being friendly in general.  During our conversation I mentioned that I was going to the game the next night.  He said make sure his assistants coaches do a good job while he was gone. I said no problem! Well they lost.  Oh well.  Now, fast forward a few days later after the meetings and I am at work in my work station and I happen to see him walking through towards baggage claim. He saw me and approached me and asked me what happened and that he thought I was going to take care of things...lol! I told him I submitted some line changes but they wouldn't listen to me!  He had a laugh!  I thought is was so cool that with all the business of the NHL and the thousands of fans he meets, that he actually remembered our conversation and even was down to earth enough to give me a little egg on my face...


Great, great guy and great Hockey mind.  It's just too bad he hasn't been able to win that Cup yet...stay strong Bryan and beat this!

#2530456 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 July 2014 - 04:05 PM

...although it seems now he isn't too concerned about making moves for an immediate run. But he also is NOT endangering our future. I like our kids and our top 25 prospects.

#2530441 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 07 July 2014 - 02:52 PM

Euro...please see the post above yours...I am not bashing Canada in anyway or discrediting the Gold's....


What is with people being so combative today? Sheesh!  Babcock is the issue and Holland plays along.  If this is not the issue, then why are UFA's shunning us when they never used to?  Simple answer, Holland offers less money and players don't like Babcock.  If Babcock was such a super great coach and all players he won Gold with admire and long to play for him, then why are the ones that were UFA's the 8 years knocking on the door to get here?


...and yes, I would take that bridge! I could double the fee and make a little extra money!


You can't be serious....


You take extremely hard-lined stances on the most ridiculous, knee-jerk (doing my best to use polite words) opinions and then get all surprised and defensive when everybody (but Richdg or Degra55) disagrees with you.


It's like clockwork around here...

#2530177 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by metalkorn on 05 July 2014 - 09:32 PM

No way should he start in Detroit... he has only played Junior.

Mackinnon is a class above this kid, numbers don't make a player in the Q - he put up good numbers, but I wouldn't say he is ready.

Martin Frk was playing with Mackinnon and was lighting it up for the Moose and then he turned out to be terrible for Grand Rapids and was buried, not sure why anyone expects that Mantha is going to make the team, would be cool to see him play a pre-season game perhaps but even if he scored 3 or 4 goals in a game I still think he owuldn't be with the big club Day 1... it wouldn't be good for him.... we aren't Edmonton.

#2530141 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Son of a Wing on 05 July 2014 - 06:09 PM

Doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results?  That's the definition of insanity.


I've never understood this saying as it's not even close to the definition...


We're building a system and it takes time. Taking a look at the players coming through our system I'd say it's working.

#2530043 Can Z and Pav do anything to protest? (not that they would)

Posted by number9 on 04 July 2014 - 08:45 PM

The real question is: Would Dats and Z ever protest? No. They aren't short sighted hot heads like most of LGW

#2530061 It's too bad about us having Weiss...

Posted by Barrie on 04 July 2014 - 11:00 PM

Just think what 50 pts from Weiss, and a healthy Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Franzen, and Helm would mean for us next year. A 1st round exit against Boston wasn't a bad thing, guys have a chance to heal.


Add to that, full seasons from Nyquist and Jurco.



#2529968 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Euro_Twins on 04 July 2014 - 01:20 PM

Weiss recovering well and skating well


#2529856 Hollands new contract a no brainer?

Posted by The Secret on 03 July 2014 - 05:52 PM



New GM

New Coach - Blashill

Fancy New Arena (although the Joe rules)

New fans - Lets go with Torontos fans here

New rosey red coloured goggles

New drugs

New things to ***** and complain about

New reason to jump to conclusions

New team scapegoat

New thing to throw on the ice - Dirty s***filled diapers for sure

...why stop there?

#2529821 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by matt198913 on 03 July 2014 - 03:51 PM

I think there is plenty to be excited

#2529815 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by freshy on 03 July 2014 - 03:21 PM

Young guys had to step up HUGE at the end of last year. Nyquist isn't going to score every game when teams start keying in on him because Hank & Pavs are out with injury. The kids are gamers. They will infuse drive in the rest of the team and we should be much better with them all starting on the same page together at camp.