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#2678567 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 21 June 2016 - 10:32 PM

I don't usually take much stock in trade rumors, but I can't help but salivate over the thought of Trouba in the Winged Wheel... I know I've mentioned it a hundred times, but Kenny needs to be all over that. I'd also welcome Fowler, but Trouba is my number one choice...


#2678359 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 20 June 2016 - 03:04 PM

Lmao

They have vasilevsky who's just as good and cheap , and with expansion draft coming they'll lose a goalie guaranteed

Ben bishop is as good as gone

Vasilevsky is just as good as Ben Bishop? Lmao. By what stats exactly? GAA? Save %? Wins?

Larkin isn't a top 6 center? ... Ok there

L...

Wait you think Larkin is a top 6 center? Oh boy. Ok show me all the NHL games he played top 6 center and how his numbers were from face off to possession. Do you even remotely know what you're talking about? Or are you picking out notes from a bowl and just reading random things?


#2678349 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 20 June 2016 - 01:57 PM

I'm not a fan of giving 10 million to stamkos and his bloodclot issues and his demands to play center ....anyways Again we'll see who's right soon enough ... Like 10 days left

Lol. IF ONLY the Wings had MORE players that would demand to play center. We have zero top 6 centers. 

 

I think you just listed the primary reason why the Red Wings might throw money at Stamkos. 




#2678344 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 20 June 2016 - 01:14 PM

I disagree .... Yes hedman's contract will go up but bishop will also be off the books and they can get rid of a Callahan or others

For us to compete with the 8.5 Tampa is offering , because of the taxes I'm guessing it'll have to be 10-11 per (which I wouldn't do)

Think it's just a ploy from stamkos to try and get more money off tampa but he will be back

We'll see what happens soon enough

I don't think you entirely understand Tampa Bays situation. 

 

This year they have to re-sign Killorn, Kucherov, Stamkos who will get paid quite a bit. Others lesser paid will be Namestnikov, Paquette, Brown, Nesterov.

 

Next year they have to resign Drouin, Palat, Johnson (hello big money), Hedman (biggg pay day), Bishop (contract might be bigger than his frame).

 

They have $18 million this year to resign people. If they throw $10 million at Stamkos that leaves 8 million to resign Killorn, Kucherov and the rest of the RFAs. There simply is NOT enough money for this team to re-sign people. Stamkos is the common denominator here. If they want to retain the team that went to the conference finals this year, Stamkos might be the guy who walks while everyone else is resigned. 




#2678096 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 18 June 2016 - 11:57 AM

Glad he's re-signed. Not a player I wanted Holland to go after.


#2678043 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 17 June 2016 - 10:54 PM

Back off the ledge boys, Bobby Mac to the rescue:

 

"DET will trade contract first, acquiring team will terminate contract, take cap hit. Contract will get terminated, not by DET."

 

Pretty important detail that Shannon left out, not cool.




#2678034 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by DickieDunn on 17 June 2016 - 09:01 PM

It's not retired, let him wear it


#2677892 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by joesuffP on 16 June 2016 - 06:36 PM

We're a slick puck moving dman away from being able to play a different style of game. Lose Quincey, buyout Ericsson, give Smith a larger role and possibly add a good offensive defensemen and this is a different style of team


#2677871 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 16 June 2016 - 12:12 PM

Avalanche NOT trading D Tyson Barrie, GM Joe Sakic tells me. LT deal preferred for RFA, or arbitration. "Either way, he'll be here" - Sakic

Good news. Now I hope Bob Murray makes a similar statement regarding Vatanen...


#2677856 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by amato on 16 June 2016 - 07:38 AM

Also, we can't offer sheet him 8 years..

Or frank, if your intent by saying "offer sheet trouba with a massive signing bonus then extend him" was meant to mean a huge one year contract then extension, I disagree with that.

Anything above 9.5 mill-ish (I forget the exact number) would compensate the jets with 4 first round picks. I like trouba as much as the next guy, but I wouldn't ever trade 4 first round picks for him


#2677853 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 16 June 2016 - 05:44 AM

Was just about to post the same thing amato. Any player that is bought out can be had for cheap. In saying that, neither Brown or Vanek interest me...

 

Also, I am one of the biggest proponents to trade for / sign Trouba but an offer sheet is definitely not the way to do it. He could be had for a reasonable price, Holland just needs to pony up some assets and get it done...




#2677489 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by mackel on 11 June 2016 - 09:26 PM

Facts are Arizona and especially Carolina are a budget team , yes or no? Facts are recently especially Arizona they have been trading for contracts that make them save actual money cause they can't afford it and would love to spend less money than the actual floor salary

Yes they'd be doing us a favor by taking the contract but Now if we have to give up a 2nd or 3rd to also help them out in mutually beneficial transaction than forget it like it said and suck it up for the season

You make it sound like its such a big deal for them to take the contract off our hands, belive me karmanos would love nothing more than to spend 7 million less than he has to

Well not interested in giving up a 2nd or 3rd or a jurco ... As you mentioned I'm sure holland will only move the contract if he needs to free up space , I doubt we move that contract and then can't sign anyone


800 posts later, we get it... you think that teams should pay us for the privilege of taking on a cap hit.

Annnnnnnd You're still wrong.


#2677363 Gordie Howe has passed away. 1928-2016.

Posted by Jersey Wing on 10 June 2016 - 12:11 PM

Please, I beg of everyone with this petition, let Mr. Howe pass and let the family move on before you put the Illitch family in the uncomfortable position of probably NOT changing the name of the arena, especially since the Gordie Howe bridge is being built.

 

I love Gordie Howe and the Red Wings as much as life itself but don't use his passing to pressure the owners right now and make them say something unpopular.




#2677404 Gordie Howe has passed away. 1928-2016.

Posted by VM1138 on 10 June 2016 - 06:11 PM

Not close to being the Wings best player of all time, let alone the GOAT. Lidstrom, Feds, Yzerman go before him


Careful, you might cut yourself on all that edge.


#2677383 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 10 June 2016 - 02:35 PM

We've had a number of players playing above their ideal spot. And it has lead to many people turning against those players. But I don't understand it - it's not their fault that Blash didn't put Tatar or Nyquist in our top 6 or that we don't have the franchise Dman.

 

To me Helm is the perfect 3rd line player.

Ericsson would be fine used as a number 4 guy and off the first pair

Abby is not a 'typical' 1st line player, but is there to add grit and a net front presence - a different version of Holmstrom

 

I think Helm did fine with Datsyuk, but it wasn't ideal. Tatar and a healthy Franzen would have been good. Have Richards on the line made things worse when he was there. Partly roster mismanagement, partly a team in transition. To me, Helm is the 3rd line center who always put in huge effort, is great at faceoffs, great pker and supplies secondary scoring, is responsible defensively (I have no idea where the turnover-machine idea comes from - one site says he had the 2nd least of our regulars).