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#2526216 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by FlashyG on 27 June 2014 - 04:09 PM

Looks like Chicago and Philly have some trading to do.

 

Boston too. They have 1.67 million left in space with Krug, Reilly Smith, Iginla, and a bunch of others left to sign.




#2526214 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 27 June 2014 - 03:54 PM

Looks like Chicago and Philly have some trading to do.


#2526197 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 27 June 2014 - 03:18 PM

 
If a trade for Myers happens today, I would imagine it would be due to a lot of uncertainty after speaking with the Niskanen camp. Myers would be a good alternative, just more of a risk. 


I have to imagine that if Myers is traded for this has to be true. Holland is not going to give up picks and prospects when he can sign a guy for free. Niskanen would have to tell us no chance before holland trades. He isn't stupid.


#2526195 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 27 June 2014 - 03:15 PM

 

Exactly. It is difficult to learn how to play in this league when the team around you is falling apart and lacks leadership. Look at Edmonton. Loaded with talent, nobody to learn from. Nobody to teach their top players how to play a complete game, etc. 

 

While I don't think Myers is the ideal solution, it isn't a move I'd be unhappy to see. It would make the team better.

 

Depends on the package.  If we lost any of our good young forwards I'd be pissed.  That's a lot to give for a guy with as many check marks against him as Myers has. 

 

Smith, prospects, and picks (on the other hand) I'd be fine with. 


I like Myers better than Niskanen because Myers has more upside and has the potential to be a #1 D on our team for a long time

 

Niskanen I think would be a risk as well, I mean one season inflating his cap value by a lot, he could either turn out like O'Reilly or like Clarkson or Nathan Horton

 

You've obviously not watched a lot of Myers if you think he's got the upside to be a #1.  He's big.  That's it.  He doesn't play defense worth a damn.  He's just got a big shot from the point and stands up to the forecheck well. 




#2526193 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 27 June 2014 - 03:10 PM

 

I do think a lot of that has to do with the Sabres as a whole really. Myers has the tools, I think a fresh start could work wonders for him. Especially to have a vet like 55 to play with and learn from. 

 

Big risk to take for a guy who's never produced any better than Matt Niskanen, plays half the defense, costs 5.5 million a year, and would require a significant package to acquire (per reports). 

 

Why not just spend a little more (maybe) on the guy who does everything better and keep all your trade assets?




#2526190 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 27 June 2014 - 03:08 PM

 
I do think a lot of that has to do with the Sabres as a whole really. Myers has the tools, I think a fresh start could work wonders for him. Especially to have a vet like 55 to play with and learn from. 


Agreed. His first two seasons buffalo was a competitive team. Since then the team tanked and he went with them.


#2526181 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Euro_Twins on 27 June 2014 - 03:03 PM

 
If a trade for Myers happens today, I would imagine it would be due to a lot of uncertainty after speaking with the Niskanen camp. Myers would be a good alternative, just more of a risk. 


It sounded to me like there was uncertainty with Boyle, not niskanen. It seemed pretty clear they want niskanen and will do whatever it takes. Perhaps they want two dmen


#2526178 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 June 2014 - 02:53 PM

I still say no to Myers but that's just me. I would much rather over pay for Niskanen. Better player, slightly higher cap hit, without giving up the assets...




#2526158 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 27 June 2014 - 02:14 PM

People will be angry if we sign Niskanen...people will be angry if we don't. Man we are turning into Toronto fans.


#2526156 Kesler traded to Anaheim

Posted by rick zombo on 27 June 2014 - 02:05 PM

I agree, didn't want him anyway.  I don't know why so many fans are so offended every time a player doesn't include Detroit on a list of teams to go to.  I wondered if it was exclusively a Detroit thing or if other fans of other teams get offended by it.  

 

For fans that grew up watching a team like the one in 2002 assemble itself, it's safe to say that we're just spoiled.

 

It used to be fun being a Wings fan on July 1st and at the trade deadline, until the southern team's owners and their little bald gremlin minion got together and ruined it :lol:  




#2526139 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by rick zombo on 27 June 2014 - 01:36 PM

It's interesting, every time i read quotes from Holland I sink deeper and deeper into a state of depression.

 

Yup. Holland should start ripping his shirt like Hulk Hogan, and roaring like the Incredible Hulk about how he's going to punch Franzen in the nuts and then trade for all the awesome players.

 

Or he could say something about how he wants the team to improve, go deeper in the playoffs, and how he'd like a top 4 right handed D man. But he already said that.

 

Except people hear what he says, and they think, for some inexplicable reason, that this mean that he doesn't care about the team improving, he just wants to make the playoffs and keep polishing his "streak" trophy and doesn't give a s*** all of a sudden about losing in the first round, and is out golfing instead of trying to acquire that much needed defensemen.

 

FML




#2526124 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 27 June 2014 - 01:03 PM

It's interesting, every time i read quotes from Holland I sink deeper and deeper into a state of depression.

 

I really don't see this as an issue. All you folks who want KH to just make a move for the sake of it, then you're not going to get it. At the end of the day he's right, there are several of those guys who are being asked for in trades that will become the core of our team, and they'll be even more important to this teams future success when D/Z retire etc. So why get rid of most of them just for 1 or 2 better players who might give you 2 good years and then leave via free agency, when we could add pieces like them down the line when our kids are the leaders of this team? 

 

Everyone wants to win now, sure, but if we wait a little longer we'll be a much much stronger team, without having to give up all those assets in the first place. 




#2525959 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by joesuffP on 26 June 2014 - 08:08 PM

What does that even mean lol

Franzen and holland bashing is mindless spam. Throw their names in a lame joke that has nothing to do with what is being discussed. There's about eight of them on each page of every thread


#2525937 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by arag on 26 June 2014 - 06:26 PM

Better overpay for him, than run out options and over pay and resign Q. They are not ruling him out. Not a good sign.


#2525931 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by VM1138 on 26 June 2014 - 06:04 PM

With these long-term contracts, a GM can't worry about not paying someone more than your captain, for instance.  Everyone panicked about Ericsson and Kronwall's prices, and now Kronwall is an absolute steal.  I'm sure if we landed Niskanen for 5.5 or 6 we'll all be worried, but if he remains consistent in three years it'll be a steal, too.  Remember, when the cap goes up, salaries go up for new free agents, too.