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#2536667 Training Camp Thread

Posted by wings_fanatic on 20 September 2014 - 04:26 PM

Someone in the comments section in the link Dirtydangles posted noted that Weiss has looked really good out there so far, despite the stats.


To add to that, Pav did not get any points today either. I guess we should bench him? I don't understand why some Red Wings fans need to be so negative all the time. I am more than willing to give Weiss another chance to prove himself. He is a heck of a player and lets see what he can do healthy this year before we dump him in freakin training camp!

#2535243 Alfie wants to play

Posted by Wheelchairsuperhero on 30 August 2014 - 04:31 PM

I thought this thread was about Alfie?

Don't be ridiculous, all threads are about Cleary.

#2535222 Alfie wants to play

Posted by krsmith17 on 30 August 2014 - 07:34 AM

LOL Cleary is absolutely an NHL calibre player. If he comes to camp healthy, he should without a doubt be capable of producing as a third line support guy. The big question is whether or not he is finally healthy... I don't like this signing any more than any other Wings fan, but I do have a ton of respect for Dan Cleary and for the Wings management (Ken Holland) for honoring their handshake deal from last year. I find it very difficult to believe that some Wings "fans" are actually hoping Cleary fails.f****** ridiculous... I hope he proves all the haters wrong and plays 50+ games and puts up 20+ points.

#2534214 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by kook_10 on 14 August 2014 - 09:22 AM

This is gonna be good.

#2533565 Candiens, P.K. Subban agree to 8 year contract

Posted by VM1138 on 02 August 2014 - 06:59 PM

Inflation happens. Kane and Toews set the new standard, and I'm sure their agents had them do it on purpose. No biggie. Everything goes up over time. People acting shocked and annoyed are being ridiculous. Did they think the cap would go up and everyone would just keep making their old salaries? The world doesn't work like that. Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2

#2533326 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 29 July 2014 - 08:35 PM

According to that Czech article someone posted in another thread his choices were 2, 3, and 5.


Well three puts him right into his prime, and if he were to get low-balled, he has an arbitrator to fall back on.  I see the appeal of a 3 year deal.  This signing is a solid one in my book as I think Tatar will turn out to be very consistent and solid for the team.

#2533257 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by Euro_Twins on 29 July 2014 - 08:18 AM

ok, ok, no more Diesel... :lol:
I said its too much so he better get 20-30 goals to prove he is worth it. If he never gets 20 then its way over payment. Closer to 30 and he is worth it for sure! In the end I am glad he is still a Red Wing! Go Tatar!

So 30 goal scorers make less than $3million? I understand the sentiment but your argument is invalid. If he scores 20 goals he is worth the contract. If he scores 30 he is performing way higher than his contract.

#2533172 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by germanwing on 28 July 2014 - 01:59 PM

Tatar will be RFA when the contract expires.



Because Tomas Tatar is a late birthday (December), he'll still have one more year of RFA after 3-year deal expires in 2017. #RedWings

#2533142 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by rick zombo on 28 July 2014 - 01:13 PM

$7M? Overpayment.... No more than $1.5M per please. Maybe $5M for the term.


I don't think 2.3M/yr is overpayment. That third year could end up being a bargain.


Although Holland is terrific with his RFA signings (see: Sheahan, Riley) so I wouldn't be shocked at 1.5M per either.

#2532712 'District Detroit': Red Wings' New Arena Details Released

Posted by UpstateNYRedWingsFan on 21 July 2014 - 01:55 PM


Now don't @&#% it all up by calling the arena GoDaddy.com Place. 



What about Disney.com Arena?

#2532498 Babcock Interview on 105.1 this morning

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 18 July 2014 - 02:37 PM


Babcock is ONE OF the best coaches.  I agree.  We just happen to disagree on him being THE BEST coach, which is what you said initially.  And it's not like he came on to a bad team either.  Any argument made in his favor is equally valid for Sutter or Quenneville who, nevertheless, have more Cups. 


It's obviously opinion at this point but there's no way I'd want Quenneville over Babcock.  Sutter maybe.  I think Sutter outcoached and exposed the Hawks this playoffs, and Babcock almost did it the previous year with a helluva lot less talent. 

Here's part of the reason I think Babs is a great coach. 



"The way I look at it here, if you don't want to be coached, don't come here," Bacock said via Detroit Sports 105.1. "If you want to be pushed to be the best that you can be, that's what we do here. You know what? The proof is in the pudding.

"If [the Wings] are concerned about [free agents not liking me], then I should coach somewhere else."


Am I warm and cuddly every day? I am with my family. I think I care a lot about my players. When you care about people, you make them do it right. When you don't, and there's lots of coaches that don't, then their teams don't do it right and they don't have success. We just have the hard meetings. We get it out front. Does it piss people off once in a while? Absolutely. But it also leads to behavioral changes and getting things better. So you know what, I'm not apologizing for that stuff at all.




#2532497 Babcock Interview on 105.1 this morning

Posted by Dabura on 18 July 2014 - 02:28 PM

"I think we need to let our young people grow. We signed enough players to buy our kids time in the minors. We have four d-men who are going to play here eventually and probably be upgrades on our roster. How much time do they need? We don’t know the answer. [ . . . . ] I didn’t like us in the playoffs last year against Boston, but we like what we have coming. And we like our kids. So the biggest thing is not to rush it. We could really use some puck-moving D. Well, we just happen to have some puck-moving D in the minors. Big guys that can skate. When are they ready? We’re sure not going to rush them, but if they’re capable of taking jobs they’re getting the jobs." - Babcock, from the interview


Let's be honest - the Wings aren't in really bad shape. We've spent the past few seasons "retooling" in the sense that we've kept our core intact and kept the streak alive while also building up a very impressive stable of very promising young players like Nyquist and DeKeyser and Mantha and Mrazek and Sproul and Ouellet and Jurco and Athanasiou. The "youth movement" we've been waiting for is already happening; it's a slow drip rather than one great big swell. We're not rebuilding, not looking to tear everything down and ice a roster with 20 kids. We want what every Cup contender boasts these days: quality veteran leadership (with at least two elite franchise players at the top of the totem pole) and a small army of young studs on early, affordable contracts. And we're in a position to have that very soon.


I hate the Quincey and Cleary re-signings. I hated that we brought back Samuelsson. I hated that Nyquist was stuck in Grand Rapids at the start of last season and that Jurco's going to get the same treatment this coming season. But, all things considered, this stuff isn't a big deal. What's important is that we're steadily building up to that kind of roster that can truly compete for the Cup. Again, I think that roster is within reach, we just have to be patient and not do anything really, genuinely, hugely, dangerously stupid. For example, as much as I want a Mike Green on this team, I do feel that moving, say, Nyquist for him would be really, genuinely, hugely, dangerously stupid, or at least close to it. Even if he were to have a great season, do you suppose he re-ups with us? I wouldn't be surprised if he were to re-sign with the Caps, giving them both Nyquist and Green.


But I digress. Point is, it's going to be ok, maybe. I'm generally extremely cynical about the state of the Wings, but if I'm being objective, I like us, and I think we're only going to get better over the next two or three years. Mantha will save us all.

#2532145 Alfie wants to play

Posted by Jesusberg on 15 July 2014 - 11:40 AM

If Alfie wanted to win the Cup, he obviously wouldn't want to come back to Detroit.
So that begs the question.  Do we really want a player on our team that isn't serious about winning the Cup?

Uh... So call a guy out for going to a team you doubt has a chance at winning the cup, then criticize his desire to win?

I don't get it...

He was basically the most consistent forward on the team last season. He was a welcome addition in my eyes. If he's healthy, I'd want the guy back.

#2531994 Forum Rules Refresher. PLEASE READ

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 July 2014 - 09:46 AM

An update:


I know people are unhappy about the signing, but enough with the Cleary jokes in every single thread on the forum.  


For starters, they're usually not that funny as it gets old very fast.  Second, it makes it difficult to carry on a conversation about the actual topic. 


Thank you. 

#2532061 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by VM1138 on 14 July 2014 - 04:44 PM

Neither of Callahan or Ferraro looked ready. Ferraro was considered close to a bust already and got a last ditch shot, I think. Callahan still has a ways to go to be NHL-ready. Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2