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#2621887 Jonathan Quick on snipers, including Datsyuk

Posted by kipwinger on 30 July 2015 - 08:52 PM

Toews is not overrated. He's like zetterberg. He's got superior
Defense, puck control skills, vision, and competitiveness, and above average everything else. He's just not flashy, which makes everybody go gaga but doesnt make someone one iota more "elite". Kopitar is the same way.

#2621880 Free agents this off season

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 30 July 2015 - 05:08 PM

I think Franson looked at a Boychuck like contract but he isn't as good.

If I'm Holland I'd offer 5x5 or 4,2x6 Franson adds size and physicality.

I've been watching quite a bit of franson tape lately because I expected us to sign him, and from what I've seen Franson is way too slow..,
He's somewhat physical in that he hits a lot, but he puts himself out of position with his hits and doesn't have the foot speed to recover...

If we ended up getting rid of Quincey and kindl(not going to happen) I dont even think ehroff would be worth the risk for the bottom pair, he's shown he can put up points, but he can't stay healthy, and he isn't the pmd he once was. Imagine how awful it would have looked had he accepted our contract offer last year.

He'd be a huge question mark for the next few years.

#2621802 Jonathan Quick on snipers, including Datsyuk

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 29 July 2015 - 02:38 PM

Jonathan Quick has a piece in the Player's Tribune on snipers in the NHL.  It's a good read an an interesting perspective on goaltending.  He picks Datsyuk as one of the snipers to highlight. 






Most guys have a little tell. You look at where the puck is in relation to their feet, or the way they’re bending their knees to get ready to shoot, and you just know what’s going to happen before it happens. But the problem with Datsyuk is that he fools you with his intentions. He will be way out on the wall with his hands, feet, and eyes positioned for a cross-ice pass — and it’s the right decision. It’s what 99 percent of players will do in that situation. So you instantly start cheating your eyes over to where he’s going to pass. Next thing you know — what the hell? — the puck is behind you in the net. He shot it. Who shoots from there? Datsyuk shoots from there.


#2621636 Holtby Asking for $8M

Posted by The Greek on 27 July 2015 - 04:07 PM

The old eyeball test.  Keeping the Earth flat and at the center of the solar system since the dawn of man.  Gotta love it. 

Yup. It's particularly popular with people who use "girl" as an insult. It's pretty funny when you realize that the anti-analytics crowd is really just anti-information.

#2621627 Holtby Asking for $8M

Posted by kipwinger on 27 July 2015 - 11:25 AM

The old eyeball test.  Keeping the Earth flat and at the center of the solar system since the dawn of man.  Gotta love it. 

#2621502 Free agents this off season

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 24 July 2015 - 01:04 PM

Smart move for the Habs.
1 year deal on the cheap...A motivated, and healthy Semin could easily hit 30  goals.

30 goals on Montreal? Lol

He will be responsible for more goals against then he actually scores. Book it.

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#2621263 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by Helmethead on 23 July 2015 - 09:30 AM

If we got Buff then we'd have the stuff.

#2621238 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by GoWings1905 on 22 July 2015 - 08:05 PM

Yes... Join the haters. We have cake.

Yup, I hate a player that wears the uniform of my favorite team. That was clearly what I was getting at in my post. God forbid anyone has a dissenting opinion about a player on a discussion board.

#2620748 New Ultra-Enhanced Video/Renderings of the Arena District

Posted by BobL on 17 July 2015 - 12:52 AM


I agree, however I don't blame the owner. The owner is operating in a system which allows him to conduct business like this. Why does he get to operate like this? because at the end of the day we allow it.


An owner worth billions can't afford a multi-million stadium? Doesn't make sense. I'd love to see our tax dollars not go to this arena, It's been shown that successful sports don't boost a city. Detroit should exhibit A in that department.


If people get mad about it... it will change. But for the most part we're all just excited to get a new arena. Arena combat was and is the glory of Rome.


That's the trick, isn't it?  How do 'we' stop allowing it?  Part of it is certainly that the fans are excited to get a new arena (and really, who could blame them?), but the other part of it is that there is very little recourse for the little people (which is basically all of us) to wield any meaningful power.  Wish I knew the answer.  It does temper my love of watching Red Wing hockey to know that this is how the business runs, even in a franchise that is held up as a gold standard... and I'm not even a Michigan taxpayer, so it's not my money, but I feel for those of you who are.


This article breaks things down even more:


Seems like the trade off for the city is the removal of the direct revenue they received with the current deal at the Joe.  I think sports teams and museums and things of that nature are good for a city, important to a city, even if they are potentially drains on the resources of the city at some level, because those are really things we should value... but it's harder to swallow when you are talking about billionaires (not to mention the corporations of billionaires, which have a much higher value than the one guy) who could fund these direct business developments themselves...


If there's a sports franchise, and a city that could use a new arena along with revitalizing a part of the city - the Red Wings, and Detroit would be at the top of the list.


The question, really, is if it actually revitalizes anything.

#2620634 Johnny Oduya signs with Stars 2 yrs $3.75 AAV

Posted by kipwinger on 15 July 2015 - 12:42 PM

Oduya isn't better than Ericsson OR Quincey.  He's very comparable to both though.  Signing him and shipping one of those guys out is just shuffling deck chairs. 

#2620367 Mitch Callahan signed 1-year - 600k

Posted by DickieDunn on 13 July 2015 - 12:22 PM

If anyone is in trouble it's Andersson. Coaches tend to stick with guys they know

#2620122 Brian McGrattan

Posted by Euro_Twins on 11 July 2015 - 04:16 PM

Brian mcgrattan once thought he could play professional hockey, but then he tripped and fell...

Am I playing right?

#2620108 Brian McGrattan

Posted by Euro_Twins on 11 July 2015 - 03:22 PM

Glad for him the west should be a lot of fun,
McGrattan, Lucic, Jackman, Reeves, Scott, Bourdeleaus, Bollig, Prust all in the same conference tough guys are making a comeback loving it. Seems like teams have learned from this season

Most will be in the ahl before Christmas

#2619925 Wings‬ sign left wing Eric Tangradi

Posted by Shinzaki on 10 July 2015 - 08:51 AM

I have no problem with fighting in hockey....guys like Clark Gillies, Bob Nystrom, Terry O'Reilly and early in his career, Probie,  were good hockey players who could fight when they had to.   When you start seeing stiffs like Colton Orr and John Scott out there...guys with no skill...squaring off with each other as a side show to the game, I have no use or patience for that.

#2620005 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by Caanis Cooper on 10 July 2015 - 03:55 PM

I think Quincey played amazing this last season. I would be totally against moving him at all. I know we need to make some cap space room now, but we just can't lose his toughness and good defensive play.