There's a lot of players who request to get dealt and never get dealt ... We just saw it happen to drouin
I think the big thing with trouba was he wanted big $ and jets weren't willing to give him 7-8 per, which th shouldn't ... Again we seen a lot of kids trying to avoid the bridge deal and get the big coin that never get what they were after
We all want trouba here because we know how good he will be, that being said the jets are very much aware of this as well and will do everything to convince him to stay and with Kyle Conner coming and laine as well as a bunch of other promising forwards coming and already there Winnipeg is looking like a place to stick around with trouba himself and byfuglien being the best dmen on the team
You just said it were gonna keep mrazek and Howard if we have to, cause there's no way we're mrazek ... Why wouldn't the same apply to the jets? They can ask Myers/enstrom to allow them to seek a trade and if they say no they stay with all the pieces
I'm assuming your talking about expansion? It's been said only players with no movement clauses will be protected and Myers doesn't fit that bill and there's no way the jets value Myers more than trouba ... No way
Yes if trouba is on the block holland had to look at it .... If it happens I don't think we might have the pieces as I don't think they'd be interested in a nyquist or forwards , and again I don't think they'll trade him
Sorry if that frustrates you but that's my take on it , he's too valuable an asset to move especially considering there on the verge of being a yearly playoff team very soon
But Meyers DOES have a NMC.
If they feel like trading Trouba now makes their team better, they'll do it. Sure they won't give him away. He has the tools to be a really good top pairing dman. It's not like he is gonna become OEL. If that was the case I'd agree they'd try and retain him. But with the expansion draft looming, many teams will want to move players for assets they won't have to protect. Combined with the fact that we will have too many important forwards to protect, which is why I think Tatar or Goose won't be a Wing next season.
Trouba is a likeliest trade target because they have their other top dmen locked up. Come next summer when there is an expansion draft, their hand will be forced in to protecting others. So they can trade Trouba now rather than risk losing him next year for nothing.
He is garbage. Nerves of glass. The guy has never recovered from s***ting the bed at the World Juniors back in the day. I feel bad for the guy, but some folks just aren't cut out for it. He is like the Jimmy Howard of the AHL.
I like that roster. However I'd like to see some combination of Nyquist/Jurco/D prospect(s)/pick traded for a top defenseman and add a physical 4th liner whether that's from the Griffins or outside. Kinda like this:
Miller-Glendening- *Physical 4th line acquisition
Dekeyser- *#1 defenseman (I'm hoping Trouba)
Only thing I'd change here is to let Miller walk, keep Helm, and give Jurco a full time spot. Of course I think Okposo would be a much better fit than Radulov as well. But if we got Stammer I'd be able to stomach Radulov as a Wing. I'd also hope to keep Goose over Tatar, but one of them likely has to go at this point.
4 goals 4 assists = 8 points. Considered a secondary scorer
Pavel Datsyuk in his first 37 playoff games played :
3 goals 9 assists = 12 points. Considered a primary scorer by his second season.
Opinions? My opinion is that I know Datsyuk was heavily criticized in his first 4 NHL seasons because of his poor playoff performance. I'm starting to think it's a similar situation with Gus. Pav was a late bloomer. Gus might be as well.
Exactly. People used to ***** about Datsyuk and wanted him traded once upon a time as well. Oops.
Ya I think the best thing is to give mantha athanasiou Larkin tons of ice time and let them develop and hopefully turn out to be really good players which we all believe they can be
I'd stay away from stamkos cause he will cost 10+ per and has blood clot issues and if he truly is demanding that he has to be a center I say pass
Okposo as well I'd pass on , would cost 7 I believe and I think he needs a star forward like he had in Tavares to make him a better player , and didn't he dissapear in the playoffs? I'd just want to be sure we give the right player(s) a 7+ cap hit
Think our best route is to let the kids play and to make some trades for defensemen and maybe prospects with potential and hopefully find a kid who didn't have a chance somewhere else and play well for the wings, I don't think this is the best ufa class and we should save our money for someone else at another time
I'd love a backes but I see him returning to the blues and I'd love lucic just so we can have someone who can strike fear into other teams players but I'm not willing to give him a 6x6 type deal ... Maybe 5 million x4 since we have some kids with cheap salaries now but I know lucic will get more on the market
Don't know about you guys but I'm anxiously awaiting draft day since I believe they'll be a ton of trades and names we wouldn't suspect to be traded to be in fact moved
If Stamkos has interest in coming to your team, you open up that chequebook. He is a franchise center in his prime. He would nullify the loss of Datsyuk immediately, as well as be our best player by a long shot. Imagine our pp.
Listen to Holland's presser again, he actually names Okposo as a player that could change the style of the team.
Without guessing who won't be back, would you all be excited if he landed Radulov, Okposo and Yandle? Of course, trades would be needed to have the cap, but would that fill needs? Since Datsyuk says we need Radulov, maybe if Holland lands him, Datsyuk comes back for his year??
This leaves us severely lacking center depth and a top dman. I don't think Yandle is the answer at all. Would love to see Okposo as a Wing though.
For me, the dream is Stamkos, Trouba and Okposo. Easier said than done, of course. But if they can get Trouba or another top dman at the draft via trade, it would greatly help attract UFAs come July 1st. But finding a center is far more important than bringing in a guy like Radulov. Even if it is a band-aid solution at center to take some of the pressure off of Larkin and AA for a year or two. Obviously Stammer would give us a permanent one-two punch down the middle with he and Larkin.
The first time I have saw Howard play was a preseason game against TB, it was the season after the lockout and he let in his first shot on net from I believe center ice lol.
Truth. His regular season debut was a train wreck as well. The concern was high knowing Ozzie was on his last leg. But he was never all that in GR either. He straight up made the team because we had no backup and Howard was waiver eligible. Him being an average NHL goalie is a huge over-achievement all on its own.
Nyquist is a ghost in the playoffs. He has consistently demonstrated this to be true throughout his ENTIRE CAREER. If you think otherwise you are lying to yourself. His career ppg in the regular season is 60%. In the playoffs it plummets down to 22%. Lets compare that to another renowned offensive juggernaut. Max Talbot has a career ppg in the regular season of 29%. In the post season it INCREASES to 49%. Thats stepping up and getting it done WHEN IT MATTERS MOST. Something that Nyquist simply has not done. Case closed.
Such a narrow minded way of looking at it. How about looking at the scoring of every player on the roster in the playoffs since Goose made the team? Do you know what you'll see? That NOBODY has stepped it up when it matters most when it comes to scoring. The playoff scoring troubles is a team issue, not a Nyquist issue.
Whose expectations? He was projected to be an avetage starter. He's an average starter.
He was an all star, he at times was in the Vezina conversation, he was named to team USA in the olympics.
Hell, when he first started in the NHL debate there was even debate whether he even belonged there. Remember his debut? It was concerning. Just being an average goalie was him exceeding expectations. On top of that he has had his moments where he was among the best. But that's what separates him from the elite: Consistency. And he will never become elite, as he never has nor does he currently have the tools to do so. Mrazek, on the other hand, does.