Erhoff would be a great pickup if Niskanen goes elsewhere. But I think Niskanen has to be the #1 target Tuesday. Young, righty, coming into his prime. He'd become part of the core for this team for many years to come, where I feel Erhoff would be a stop gap for a few years then start to decline.
The problem, I think, is if we do end up signing Niskanen, or now possibly Ehrhoff, what the **** do we do with Kindl? Stick him on the 3rd pairing? I doubt many GMs are going to want to eat his salary after the season he just had, but I maybe wrong. Could we trade him to Florida for a bag of pucks so they can get to the floor?
I think what might happen if he does stick around is that our 3rd D pairing will likely be a rotation of Kindl/Lashoff and whichever kid makes it from GR - most likely to be Ouellet. I think I'd rather have Ouellet and Sproul with Lashoff rotating in tbh
Kindl is as good as gone. There will be some team needing to reach the cap floor. The pairing of him and Lashoff has been brutal. No way both those 2 return. Lashoff sticking around as 6/7 is the most we will see from those two.
I wouldn't get carried away yet. The cap is only about a mill or two under what was projected and it will go up every season so it's not like there is going to be a mass sale of all kinds of top players.
I don't mean teams will be having fire Sales, I just mean that the top teams in the east will be losing a player or two, and the Wings have the space to add. Top teams will regress, Wings will improve.
Boston too. They have 1.67 million left in space with Krug, Reilly Smith, Iginla, and a bunch of others left to sign.
Pens to. They have a bit of space, but a LOT of roster spots to fill. I said it earlier. The top teams in the east are gonna have to get rid of guys. Wings have an opportunity here to become a contender in the East.
Depends on the package. If we lost any of our good young forwards I'd be pissed. That's a lot to give for a guy with as many check marks against him as Myers has.
Smith, prospects, and picks (on the other hand) I'd be fine with.
I agree that it depends on the package. But including Smith would not improve the defense now. Buffalo is in full rebuilding mode. We can get Myers without roster players if it came down to it. Probably throw Kindl their way just to clear roster space. My guess is if we traded for Myers, it would be a dman prospect going the other way, along with a 1st and dumping someone like Kindl just to clear a roster spot.
Of course I'd 100% rather see Niskanen here. But if that can't happen, Myers would be a nice addition. Despite his regression, I think a fresh start can steer his career in the right direction.
I agree on Weiss, I think he'll be chomping at the bit to get after everyone after he signed that contract last summer.
What would you sign Niskanen to? 6 years too long? He's a good defensemen, but what has me on the fence is whether or not he's worth that kind of value, or whether he's been inflated by the fact that he's the best FA D man this year, and he was playing in a system where he was feeding pucks to 2 of the best players in the game today.
As far as contract goes, I think 6 million per year at whatever term it takes to get him is fair. Even if it has to go a little beyond that, I think Holland should do it. Sounds crazy, yes. But the cap will rise, and that contract gets better and better. He is a player who would become a part of the core of this team for many years. He is only entering his prime. With his age and skill, money can't be what makes him go elsewhere.
Detroit's biggest problem last season was not enough puck moving dmen. Another huge issue was not having enough dmen who can get a point shot through. Niskanen solves both of those issues, and is a righty to boot. Clarkson, Clowe. Those are UFA's you do not overpay for. Niskanen is one of those that you do. Much like Suter was a couple years back. If the overpayment is within reason, throw what he is looking for at him. At his age he still wouldn't be regressing at the end of a max term contract.
Edit: He'd still get to play with great players in Detroit as well. He'd also be a top pairing guy instead of a #4 guy. People always wonder why he'd choose Detroit over Pittsburgh. That right there is a big reason why. A bigger role is very appealing to a lot of players. They wanna be THE go to guy. Kronwall and Niskanen manning the point together on a PP. Just thinking about it makes me hope Holland can get him here.
Very good point. The fans will not be very happy though if Kenny signs this kid for $6.5 million a season and he tanks. Look at Weiss. Everyone celebrated this signing, and it was a risk, and he gets dogged over this move over signing Flip.
I am on the fence over this. I think he has a greater upside for sure.
The thing is, the Weiss signing still hasn't been proven to be a bad one. The guy was hurt. Very unfortunate, but he has done nothing to hurt the team. Even when he was playing while hurt, he was never a liability. He was being hindered by his injury and couldn't produce the way he is capable of. I am 100% convinced he will shut a lot of people up this coming season.
As for Niskanen, people keep on preaching one good year, but he was a very good player before this past season to. He kept improving each and every year, and will likely continue to do so. His style is exactly what this team needs. Like Rafalski was in 2007, Niskanen would be the perfect fit for this team and would make the Wings that much better.
Looking at the East, the likes of Boston and Pittsburgh are gonna lose a couple players. They will still be strong teams, but it is looking like they may not be as strong as last season (which could change of course). Both teams are having cap issues. This is the Wings chance to get better and get closer to their level. Sign Niskanen and see what the team got. With continued improvement of the kids, address further needs at the deadline if no moves make sense this summer.
I think I'd be ok with it as long as the cap hit was around $5m, even if he gets 6 years. Anything over that creates an elephant that is really difficult to move.
False. With the cap increasing, even 6 million per year becomes a very nice contract for a player of his caliber in 2-3 years.