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#2675906 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 13 May 2016 - 06:17 PM

This is russo's first year in the ahl though, isn't it? It's Mantha and AAs second pro year. So after next year, Russo would still fall under the "2 year" thing.


Oh sorry I misread. I read it as 2 year pros need protection. If they are safe than that is ace.


To the one who said to leave Goose and Tatar unprotected... hell no. This summer Holland needs to decide who he will protect. Whoever falls outside of said protection, he needs to trade em. Get prospects and picks for guys with value who'd likely be drafted. This team won't be a contender next season, so trade the guys we'd likely lose and then make a run for it the season after. It would be dumb have another mediocre season to only lose guys for nothing the following summer. 

#2675895 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 13 May 2016 - 03:36 PM

I could be wrong here but, the way I interpreted that lebrun tweet I posted a few posts or so ago, the way he says "first and second year pros would be exempt" makes it sound like players coming off of year one or two in a pro league at the time of the expansion draft would be exempt from being drafted to an expansion team.

I'm sure we'll get more clarification sometime soon but if that's the case, Russo would be fine. I'm not sure Vegas would draft him anyway.. I guess it depends on how his next season goes.


But the AHL is considered pro. Which meas guys like Russo, Mantha, AA (if I'm interpreting the rules correctly) would require protection. 

#2675786 WCSF : St. Louis Blues vs. Dallas Stars

Posted by marcaractac on 11 May 2016 - 08:58 PM

Im at a loss at how they could choke this bad. Any stat monkeys know what the worst loss in a game 7 is?  This has got to be trending that way.


There was one in 2002 that was pretty ace

#2675770 WCSF : St. Louis Blues vs. Dallas Stars

Posted by marcaractac on 11 May 2016 - 07:52 PM

Lehtonen is lehtonemin

#2675752 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 11 May 2016 - 04:03 PM

There's a lot of players who request to get dealt and never get dealt ... We just saw it happen to drouin

I think the big thing with trouba was he wanted big $ and jets weren't willing to give him 7-8 per, which th shouldn't ... Again we seen a lot of kids trying to avoid the bridge deal and get the big coin that never get what they were after

We all want trouba here because we know how good he will be, that being said the jets are very much aware of this as well and will do everything to convince him to stay and with Kyle Conner coming and laine as well as a bunch of other promising forwards coming and already there Winnipeg is looking like a place to stick around with trouba himself and byfuglien being the best dmen on the team

You just said it were gonna keep mrazek and Howard if we have to, cause there's no way we're mrazek ... Why wouldn't the same apply to the jets? They can ask Myers/enstrom to allow them to seek a trade and if they say no they stay with all the pieces

I'm assuming your talking about expansion? It's been said only players with no movement clauses will be protected and Myers doesn't fit that bill and there's no way the jets value Myers more than trouba ... No way

Yes if trouba is on the block holland had to look at it .... If it happens I don't think we might have the pieces as I don't think they'd be interested in a nyquist or forwards , and again I don't think they'll trade him

Sorry if that frustrates you but that's my take on it , he's too valuable an asset to move especially considering there on the verge of being a yearly playoff team very soon


But Meyers DOES have a NMC. 


If they feel like trading Trouba now makes their  team better, they'll do it. Sure they won't give him away. He has the tools to be a really good top pairing dman. It's not like he is gonna become OEL. If that was the case I'd agree they'd try and retain him. But with the expansion draft looming, many teams will want to move players for assets they won't have to protect. Combined with the fact that we will have too many important forwards to protect, which is why I think Tatar or Goose won't be a Wing next season. 

#2675749 IIHF World Championships

Posted by marcaractac on 11 May 2016 - 03:28 PM

Sweden won over Kazakhstan 7-3.

Gustav Nyqvist had a hat trick and an assist. A glorious display!



#2675729 Jim Bedard gone... Ferschweiler demoted

Posted by marcaractac on 11 May 2016 - 10:07 AM

I believe Jeff Blashill uses modern analytics? Although I don't know how much it weighs in on his decisions.

His use of Ericsson and Smith tell me that analytics have zero impact on his decisions.

#2675727 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 11 May 2016 - 09:53 AM

Trouba is a likeliest trade target because they have their other top dmen locked up. Come next summer when there is an expansion draft, their hand will be forced in to protecting others. So they can trade Trouba now rather than risk losing him next year for nothing.

#2675711 Grand Rapids Griffins Playoff Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 11 May 2016 - 04:37 AM

McCollum f***ing sucks!...


He is garbage. Nerves of glass. The guy has never recovered from s***ting the bed at the World Juniors back in the day. I feel bad for the guy, but some folks just aren't cut out for it. He is like the Jimmy Howard of the AHL. 

#2675709 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 11 May 2016 - 04:34 AM


I like that roster. However I'd like to see some combination of Nyquist/Jurco/D prospect(s)/pick traded for a top defenseman and add a physical 4th liner whether that's from the Griffins or outside. Kinda like this:





Miller-Glendening- *Physical 4th line acquisition


Dekeyser- *#1 defenseman (I'm hoping Trouba)







Only thing I'd change here is to let Miller walk, keep Helm, and give Jurco a full time spot. Of course I think Okposo would be a much better fit than Radulov as well. But if we got Stammer I'd be able to stomach Radulov as a Wing. I'd also hope to keep Goose over Tatar, but one of them likely has to go at this point. 

#2675649 IIHF World Championships

Posted by marcaractac on 10 May 2016 - 05:57 PM

Lmao the Datsyuk trade for Scott Gomez.


Thank god that never went through. 


Imagine where this franchise would be if the Yzerman/Yashin and Datsyuk/Gomez trades happened. We likely have none of those 4 cups. And would be basement battling with the Leafs lol

#2675646 IIHF World Championships

Posted by marcaractac on 10 May 2016 - 05:53 PM

So I did some digging.


Gustav Nyquist 35 playoff games played : 


4 goals 4 assists = 8 points. Considered a secondary scorer


Pavel Datsyuk in his first 37 playoff games played :


3 goals 9 assists = 12 points. Considered a primary scorer by his second season. 


Opinions? My opinion is that I know Datsyuk was heavily criticized in his first 4 NHL seasons because of his poor playoff performance. I'm starting to think it's a similar situation with Gus. Pav was a late bloomer. Gus might be as well. 


Exactly. People used to ***** about Datsyuk and wanted him traded once upon a time as well. Oops. 

#2675641 Fixing this mess....

Posted by marcaractac on 10 May 2016 - 05:41 PM

Ya I think the best thing is to give mantha athanasiou Larkin tons of ice time and let them develop and hopefully turn out to be really good players which we all believe they can be

I'd stay away from stamkos cause he will cost 10+ per and has blood clot issues and if he truly is demanding that he has to be a center I say pass

Okposo as well I'd pass on , would cost 7 I believe and I think he needs a star forward like he had in Tavares to make him a better player , and didn't he dissapear in the playoffs? I'd just want to be sure we give the right player(s) a 7+ cap hit

Think our best route is to let the kids play and to make some trades for defensemen and maybe prospects with potential and hopefully find a kid who didn't have a chance somewhere else and play well for the wings, I don't think this is the best ufa class and we should save our money for someone else at another time

I'd love a backes but I see him returning to the blues and I'd love lucic just so we can have someone who can strike fear into other teams players but I'm not willing to give him a 6x6 type deal ... Maybe 5 million x4 since we have some kids with cheap salaries now but I know lucic will get more on the market

Don't know about you guys but I'm anxiously awaiting draft day since I believe they'll be a ton of trades and names we wouldn't suspect to be traded to be in fact moved


If Stamkos has interest in coming to your team, you open up that chequebook. He is a franchise center in his prime. He would nullify the loss of Datsyuk immediately, as well as be our best player by a long shot. Imagine our pp. 

Listen to Holland's presser again, he actually names Okposo as a player that could change the style of the team.

Without guessing who won't be back, would you all be excited if he landed Radulov, Okposo and Yandle? Of course, trades would be needed to have the cap, but would that fill needs? Since Datsyuk says we need Radulov, maybe if Holland lands him, Datsyuk comes back for his year??


This leaves us severely lacking center depth and a top dman. I don't think Yandle is the answer at all. Would love to see Okposo as a Wing though. 


For me, the dream is Stamkos, Trouba and Okposo. Easier said than done, of course. But if they can get Trouba or another top dman at the draft via trade, it would greatly help attract UFAs come July 1st. But finding a center is far more important than bringing in a guy like Radulov. Even if it is a band-aid solution at center to take some of the pressure off of Larkin and AA for a year or two. Obviously Stammer would give us a permanent one-two punch down the middle with he and Larkin. 

#2675638 Jim Bedard gone... Ferschweiler demoted

Posted by marcaractac on 10 May 2016 - 05:26 PM


The first time I have saw Howard play was a preseason game against TB, it was the season after the lockout and he let in his first shot on net from I believe center ice lol.


Truth. His regular season debut was a train wreck as well. The concern was high knowing Ozzie was on his last leg. But he was never all that in GR either. He straight up made the team because we had no backup and Howard was waiver eligible. Him being an average NHL goalie is a huge over-achievement all on its own. 

#2675637 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 10 May 2016 - 05:23 PM

Well that sucks

Basically see a zero % chance of getting trouba now as they won't let him go without getting another dman and we sure as hell ain't trading dekeyser


Trouba would be moved because the Peg has too many dmen. Why would they demand one in return? If they have a need on defense, they simply keep him. If they got a dman back in a trade, it's a prospect.