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#2577727 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by marcaractac on 02 March 2015 - 04:18 PM

Lamoriello said there were other offers for Zidlcky and "better" offers, but because of no trade, Zidlicky had control where he went.

 

 

 

 

But.... but.... nobody wants to come here!  :lol:




#2577598 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by marcaractac on 02 March 2015 - 01:50 PM

Devils retain 1 million in salary in the trade


#2576993 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by marcaractac on 01 March 2015 - 09:30 PM

Well that could be true but janmark never really had a shot here and he's 22 ... Don't bite my head off I'm not comparing him to datsyuk or zetterberg but if I'm right both didn't play in the ahl either and both werent in the nhl at 22 ?

And as much as we love and hope larkin athanasiou mantha are gonna be top nhl guys ....daigle and Stefan were first overall picks and never did anything so we never know what happens until these guys all play

 

I do think Janmark has upside. Don't doubt it at all. But he is far too unproven to have much in the way of trade value. While it would have been nice to package him in bringing in a right handed dman, it would be a pipedream due to his lack of trade value. Guys like Pulks have some trade value. Not Janmark. Not even gonna mention Backman as he is damaged goods as far as the Wings go. He was never going to play here, and other GM's know that. He literally had no trade value as long as he was our prospect. The 2nd rounder is the biggest part of this trade that we gave up. Not the end of the world as we still have our first, and if things dont work out and the Wings don't make a run this year, we get the Stars 3rd rounder. Which is not at all far back from where our 2nd rounder is really. 20 spots down tops? Which makes little difference in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. And if we don't get that 3rd? That's because we make the final 4. And if we do make the final 4, I'd bet my left ******** Cole would be an important part of that. 




#2576977 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by marcaractac on 01 March 2015 - 09:20 PM

 

FLA just got Jagr for a 2nd and a 3rd. Is Cole better than Jagr? Even if you think so...are Backman and Janmark worth more than a 3rd?

 

Cole is a better player now, yes. And is exactly what this team has been lacking. He is like a Dallas Drake who belongs in the top 6.




#2576973 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by marcaractac on 01 March 2015 - 09:19 PM

At least .. But we would have to get rid of weiss so salary matches which is why I don't think it'll happen .... Would you do weiss and smith for Phaneuf? And would the leafs do it? I doubt it

 

Weiss doesn't HAVE to go the other way. Shedding Kindl clears up all the cap space we'd need. Weiss could be moved in summer if we need to shed salary. His contract is very tradable. Hard to say who goes the other way. How much salary retained would dictate the value of getting Phaneuf. I also just realized this is the Cole threat and not the Trade deadline thread so feel free to discuss this further there if you want.

 

Yay Cole! Because topic.




#2576949 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by marcaractac on 01 March 2015 - 09:00 PM

Have you seen what other teams are paying this year?

This is a fair deal both ways.

And we had to make room for all the centers we drafted last year to come into the system.
Holmstrom, ehn, vahatalo, kadeykin, and turgeon.
Janmark isn't worth all this griping.

 

I didn't even feel the need to gripe about the Legwand deal last year. I knew it had to happen, and Holland was dealing from a weak position at the time. The deal was made to preserve the playoff streak, so it was what it was. While I was ok with the deal, I understood why people didn't like it. Seeing a couple people react the same way to this trade is absolutely mind blowing lol. Was a great move. 




#2576908 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by marcaractac on 01 March 2015 - 08:41 PM

Yea the 2nd rounder hurts a little but getting back a 3rd makes it alot better. Especially when Chicago had go give up a 1st for Vermette. We didn't give up our 1st or any of our top Forward or Defensive prospects to get a player that rounds out our top 6. Amazing deal.

 

Hopefully Dallas gets to keep that third :)




#2576889 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by marcaractac on 01 March 2015 - 08:33 PM

Maybe I do but it seems you got no attachment issues and are prepared to give away All of them away except for 2-3 lol ... Is athanasiou larkin mantha ahead of him? Yes ... Doesn't mean janmark won't be a good nhler ... From what I remember we beat a few teams to the punch and selected janmark and it wouldn't surprise me if dallas was one of them(just remember Chicago)

Sorry if I think a 2nd and backman would of been enough for cole ... Just my opinion ... he's a good player but he's 36 and on the decline

Let's just hope cole helps us win the cup and we'll all be happy

 

Nope, I just realize you have to give up something in a trade to get something back. Cole is a rental. We all know this going in. The team is preparing for a playoff run. We gave up next to nothing in this deal. The 2nd rounder holds more value than either of the two prospects, really. They are 2 long shots and being impact NHLers. Such players hold little trade value. 




#2576868 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by marcaractac on 01 March 2015 - 08:25 PM

Just because they don't have a future here doesn't mean they won't be good else where? Janmark has upside

 

Janmark is far down on the depth chart. He had very little trade value. A prospect like him is never gonna bring in any high profile players in a trade. We literally gave up no noteworthy prospects, and may get high 3rd round pick in return (with the exception being a fun playoff run if we don't). You have attachment issues to our prospects lol.




#2576858 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by marcaractac on 01 March 2015 - 08:20 PM

Like I said before I like cole and he's the guy I wanted us to get ... Also didn't think he would cost us this much though ... He could be a complete bust but i liked janmarks upside and even though our prospect pool is high doesn't mean we should just give them away for older ufa's

What's funny is just today on twitter I was going on to someone about how I hope janmark convinces backman to come down fulltime next year and now there both gone lol

 

Are you serious? Please tell me this is a joke. Because this is a great trade for the Wings. We lost two prospects who have zero future here. Two prospects who have very little value. And by trading them, this team has a better shot at a deep playoff run. 




#2576826 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by marcaractac on 01 March 2015 - 08:09 PM

I don't want anymore additions to this team unless we lose guys like weiss andersen miller kindl off our lineups

Dread to think what we'd give up next for some one who's not a 36 yr old ufa

Doesn't mean everything Kenny does is gold

 

Cole is the kind of guy you win with in the playoffs. We got him for next to nothing (aka a player that ran back to Sweden and a guy who was never making this team due to being too far back on the depth chart.)




#2575570 Sounds like the New York "Islanders" are no more...

Posted by marcaractac on 27 February 2015 - 10:15 AM

Says it will just be their 3rd jersey. 

 

First sentence of the article: "The New York Islanders aren’t about to give up their franchise’s name when the team moves to Brooklynnext season."




#2573440 2/21 GDT : Red Wings 7 at Dallas Stars 6 (OT)

Posted by marcaractac on 21 February 2015 - 11:18 PM

Am I the only one who finds this constant "Tank It" joke not really all that funny

 

It's not so much a joke as it is a friendly jab at the doom and gloomers going into the season. 




#2573222 2/21 GDT : Red Wings 7 at Dallas Stars 6 (OT)

Posted by marcaractac on 21 February 2015 - 10:20 PM

I don't think they "need" the point. I see them as being up from what we be projected since nobody figured them to get two in Chicago.

 

Well the Habs won, and the Bolts are winning. So we could sure use the two points to keep pace




#2572338 Next Number to be retired

Posted by marcaractac on 18 February 2015 - 10:42 PM

I do not understand how anyone could think #13 and #40 won't be in the rafters some day. If it is held to such standards as Yzerman or Lidstrom, we'll never see another number up there. 91 belongs up there as well. And I do think that we will see that some day.