I wouldn't get carried away yet. The cap is only about a mill or two under what was projected and it will go up every season so it's not like there is going to be a mass sale of all kinds of top players.
I don't mean teams will be having fire Sales, I just mean that the top teams in the east will be losing a player or two, and the Wings have the space to add. Top teams will regress, Wings will improve.
Boston too. They have 1.67 million left in space with Krug, Reilly Smith, Iginla, and a bunch of others left to sign.
Pens to. They have a bit of space, but a LOT of roster spots to fill. I said it earlier. The top teams in the east are gonna have to get rid of guys. Wings have an opportunity here to become a contender in the East.
Depends on the package. If we lost any of our good young forwards I'd be pissed. That's a lot to give for a guy with as many check marks against him as Myers has.
Smith, prospects, and picks (on the other hand) I'd be fine with.
I agree that it depends on the package. But including Smith would not improve the defense now. Buffalo is in full rebuilding mode. We can get Myers without roster players if it came down to it. Probably throw Kindl their way just to clear roster space. My guess is if we traded for Myers, it would be a dman prospect going the other way, along with a 1st and dumping someone like Kindl just to clear a roster spot.
Of course I'd 100% rather see Niskanen here. But if that can't happen, Myers would be a nice addition. Despite his regression, I think a fresh start can steer his career in the right direction.
I agree on Weiss, I think he'll be chomping at the bit to get after everyone after he signed that contract last summer.
What would you sign Niskanen to? 6 years too long? He's a good defensemen, but what has me on the fence is whether or not he's worth that kind of value, or whether he's been inflated by the fact that he's the best FA D man this year, and he was playing in a system where he was feeding pucks to 2 of the best players in the game today.
As far as contract goes, I think 6 million per year at whatever term it takes to get him is fair. Even if it has to go a little beyond that, I think Holland should do it. Sounds crazy, yes. But the cap will rise, and that contract gets better and better. He is a player who would become a part of the core of this team for many years. He is only entering his prime. With his age and skill, money can't be what makes him go elsewhere.
Detroit's biggest problem last season was not enough puck moving dmen. Another huge issue was not having enough dmen who can get a point shot through. Niskanen solves both of those issues, and is a righty to boot. Clarkson, Clowe. Those are UFA's you do not overpay for. Niskanen is one of those that you do. Much like Suter was a couple years back. If the overpayment is within reason, throw what he is looking for at him. At his age he still wouldn't be regressing at the end of a max term contract.
Edit: He'd still get to play with great players in Detroit as well. He'd also be a top pairing guy instead of a #4 guy. People always wonder why he'd choose Detroit over Pittsburgh. That right there is a big reason why. A bigger role is very appealing to a lot of players. They wanna be THE go to guy. Kronwall and Niskanen manning the point together on a PP. Just thinking about it makes me hope Holland can get him here.
Very good point. The fans will not be very happy though if Kenny signs this kid for $6.5 million a season and he tanks. Look at Weiss. Everyone celebrated this signing, and it was a risk, and he gets dogged over this move over signing Flip.
I am on the fence over this. I think he has a greater upside for sure.
The thing is, the Weiss signing still hasn't been proven to be a bad one. The guy was hurt. Very unfortunate, but he has done nothing to hurt the team. Even when he was playing while hurt, he was never a liability. He was being hindered by his injury and couldn't produce the way he is capable of. I am 100% convinced he will shut a lot of people up this coming season.
As for Niskanen, people keep on preaching one good year, but he was a very good player before this past season to. He kept improving each and every year, and will likely continue to do so. His style is exactly what this team needs. Like Rafalski was in 2007, Niskanen would be the perfect fit for this team and would make the Wings that much better.
Looking at the East, the likes of Boston and Pittsburgh are gonna lose a couple players. They will still be strong teams, but it is looking like they may not be as strong as last season (which could change of course). Both teams are having cap issues. This is the Wings chance to get better and get closer to their level. Sign Niskanen and see what the team got. With continued improvement of the kids, address further needs at the deadline if no moves make sense this summer.
I think I'd be ok with it as long as the cap hit was around $5m, even if he gets 6 years. Anything over that creates an elephant that is really difficult to move.
False. With the cap increasing, even 6 million per year becomes a very nice contract for a player of his caliber in 2-3 years.
Agree, but the question remains. Can he produce like a $6-$7 million dollar player? Callahan just signed for $6 million a season. Niskanen wants that kind of money for one season of solid production. You know that some club is going to offer him a big contract and he will sign with them. I would be very nervous about signing him for $6 million, much the less the $7 million he is going to get from someone.
A team will never improve if they don't take a risk from time to time.
Would be great to get him here for 7 years at 6 million per. Sure that sounds like a lot of money, but the cap is only gonna keep going up. A couple seasons from now that turns into a great contract if his production doesn't drop off.
You must be drunk. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, and Helm WILL play a combined 4 games and Weiss is a joke. Unless we sign Vanek, Gaborik, Niskanen, and Callahan we will go out in the first round AGAIN and we'll be no better than Florida and Buffalo.
Holland smokes too much Cleary to do anything even close to intelligent.
Oh, also need to buyout Franzen, trade for Weber, and somehow acquire Ekblad. Can you get that through your noggan? Or are you too busy wearing your rose tinted spectacles?
Dammit you're right. Maybe Holland can sign that Lebron feller? I hear he is free.
Edit: I'm sure Kindl and LAshoff can land us Weber. 2 players for one, how can they refuse?!
Also, if the Wings were to tank. The vets would all leave to try and win elsewhere. Then our current youth would have nobody to learn from. This organization is where it is because of how the youth is developed and what they learn from veterans. You think Hank would be the player he is today without learning leadership, work ethic, and sacrificing points to become one of the best 2 way players in the world? Tanking seasons would break this. Sure you could end up becoming the next Blackhawks with a skilled, young core. But guys like Toews don't grow on trees either. People can hate on him all they want, but in 20 years from now people will look at him as one of the greatest captains in the modern era. Sure, you may find another Toews in a future draft with a top pick. Yet you may end up with a Yakupov. Tanking isn't the answer.
The team is struggling in the rebuild because we lost #5 and have a LOT of young players in the lineup at once. They'll get to play a lot more with the eurotwins this season. They will get better.