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#2529857 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by marcaractac on 03 July 2014 - 05:53 PM

That's an interesting point. Why don't you think that pairing works? In a sense, Quincey doesn't produce offense so he "must be" a defensive defensemen. Yet he doesn't pair well with Smith because he sucks at being a defensive defenseman. Which kind of made me think.. who actually pairs well with Quincey? In my mind... nobody? Maybe Ericsson... but boy is that D pairing a couple of fat rooted trees. Probably a huge reason why nobody wanted this contract is because he doesn't fit well with anybody. What kind of "role" does KFQ play? He doesn't hit, he doesn't score, he's not overly gifted in his own zone. He just sort of does nothing out there.

 

Just one of those things where 2 players do not mesh. Can't be explained, but sometimes it happens. Quincey is good defensively, it just took him a frustratingly long time to show that. He also put up points a little more consistently once he got over the all around awfulness. Not saying he was scoring a lot, but he chipped in from time to time. My guess he is either paired with Dekeyser or he is on the 3rd pairing while still playing 20 minutes per game.

 

I also still think a trade happens to bring in the puck mover we all wanna see. Keeping Quincey just gives Holland flexibility in making the right deal. Whether that be during the summer, or during the season. In the end, he couldn't go into the season with 2 rookies on defense. And really, who else out there is as solid as Quincey was before returning to Detroit? Sure they could have gotten someone else. But what's to say they wouldn't struggle like Quincey has while adjusting to a new team? He overpaid for less risk. But being just 2 years, it's fine. I'd understand the fury if it were a longer deal at that price. But at 2 years, he isn't hurting the team. He is a capable defenseman. Not the ideal signing, but reliable when you look passed the early struggles. This is not an old man Sammy contract. That contract was far worse. 




#2529771 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by marcaractac on 03 July 2014 - 01:42 PM

If Quincey could play like he did the last 3-4 weeks of last season, I'd actually be pretty happy with him on the team.

 

The key is no more Smith/Quincey pairing. Keep them apart, along with a healthy Ericsson and the defense is already a lot better than late season. Not even counting the fact that DeKeyser and Smith will only improve. 

 

While I don't think Holland is done with the defense at all, even if all that happens is getting rid of Kindl and bumping Lashoff down to #7, the defense is much improved. Because once Q and Smith were split up, the issue was always the 3rd pairing. 




#2529765 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by marcaractac on 03 July 2014 - 01:25 PM

Quicney is overpaid, yes. But it is just 2 years. This contract is nowhere near as awful as Samuelsson's a couple years back. Don't care what anyone says. Short contracts always result is being overpaid. Thems the breaks. But if I had to choose between having Quincey come back or Kindl come back, it would be Quincey any day of the damn week. I will not defend how bad he was early in the season. But with how solid he was beyond that, having him back is a lot less of a risk than having 2 rookies playing at the same time in an already young defense. What happens when an injury inevitably happens? Have half the dmen be rookies? 

 

I highly doubt Holland is just sitting on his ass waiting for the season to start. There is no doubt in my mind he is still trying to find that top 4 dman. This signing is just something to fall back on . Not the end of the world in my opinion. The cap hit doesn't even matter. It's not like that money was gonna be spent on a UFA when they already went elsewhere. 

 

For those blaming Quincey single handedly for double digit losses, you're assuming the Wings would have won each of those games he didn't give up a costly turnover. Hardly the case at all, as last season's inexperienced Wings found many other ways to lose games. Like I said before though, I'm not defending how bad he was early on. He was terrible. But once he and Smith were broken up, they both got worlds better. 




#2528950 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by marcaractac on 01 July 2014 - 06:43 PM

I personally would've rather seen kids from GR get their chance at the #5, and #6 spots on defense.

 

That would be more frustrating to watch than Kindl and Lashoff in these past playoffs. Pair a kid with someone with experience and defensibly responsible. 

 

Kronwall-E

Deke-Smith

Q-Ouellet

Lashoff

 

That doesn't look as bad as many here are making it out to be. Not as good as it could have been, I agree. But Quincey was very good late in the season and the playoffs. If he can keep that up, I'm fine with him being here. It's just 2 years. Plenty of time for kids to get some experience and try and steal his roster spot in 2 years time. Not the end of the world, folks. 




#2528923 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by marcaractac on 01 July 2014 - 06:34 PM

The man got a raise. A RAISE.

 

Who cares? The other players went elsewhere. It's not like that money was gonna be spent elsewhere. I get being disappointed in not landing a big UFA today, but the amount of hate and overreacting going on in here is ridiculous. 




#2528915 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by marcaractac on 01 July 2014 - 06:32 PM

The bottom pairing was the issue. Not Q. Quincey and Dekeyser were actually very solid together. Sure he is overpaid, but it's free agency. Everyone is. People really need to chill. Other UFA's didn't want to come here. Get over it. 




#2527430 It's too bad about us having Weiss...

Posted by marcaractac on 30 June 2014 - 09:47 PM

Doesn't matter. He is gonna end up in St. Louis.




#2527054 Ehrhoff or Niskanen

Posted by marcaractac on 29 June 2014 - 08:46 PM

Lilja will be the addition

 

PAIN TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!




#2526977 Ehrhoff or Niskanen

Posted by marcaractac on 29 June 2014 - 03:36 PM

Erhoff would be a great pickup if Niskanen goes elsewhere. But I think Niskanen has to be the #1 target Tuesday. Young, righty, coming into his prime. He'd become part of the core for this team for many years to come, where I feel Erhoff would be a stop gap for a few years then start to decline. 




#2526935 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by marcaractac on 29 June 2014 - 01:28 PM

The problem, I think, is if we do end up signing Niskanen, or now possibly Ehrhoff, what the **** do we do with Kindl? Stick him on the 3rd pairing? I doubt many GMs are going to want to eat his salary after the season he just had, but I maybe wrong. Could we trade him to Florida for a bag of pucks so they can get to the floor? 

 

I think what might happen if he does stick around is that our 3rd D pairing will likely be a rotation of Kindl/Lashoff and whichever kid makes it from GR - most likely to be Ouellet. I think I'd rather have Ouellet and Sproul with Lashoff rotating in tbh

 

Kindl is as good as gone. There will be some team needing to reach the cap floor. The pairing of him and Lashoff has been brutal. No way both those 2 return. Lashoff sticking around as 6/7 is the most we will see from those two. 




#2526789 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by marcaractac on 29 June 2014 - 01:06 AM

So...Signing Iginla = Red Wings advancing into the 2nd round?

 

If you're gonna spot pick certain things I talk about and just ignore the rest so you can make up these silly little come backs, I'm just gonna stop wasting my time responding to you. Have fun!




#2526787 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by marcaractac on 29 June 2014 - 01:03 AM

 

I like your attitude. 

 

Me to. I don't get upset over what I cannot control. 




#2526775 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by marcaractac on 29 June 2014 - 12:48 AM

 

You're a glutton for punishment eh?

 

Nah man. Free agency is a great way to kill time at work. There is all summer for moves to be made. I won't hang myself is Detroit doesn't end up with anything on Tuesday.




#2526769 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by marcaractac on 29 June 2014 - 12:31 AM

My source can beat up your source.

 

SOURCE FIGHT!!!!!!!!

 

On another note, can it be Tuesday already?




#2526222 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by marcaractac on 27 June 2014 - 04:25 PM

I wouldn't get carried away yet. The cap is only about a mill or two under what was projected and it will go up every season so it's not like there is going to be a mass sale of all kinds of top players.

 

I don't mean teams will be having fire Sales, I just mean that the top teams in the east will be losing a player or two, and the Wings have the space to add. Top teams will regress, Wings will improve.