Well that could be true but janmark never really had a shot here and he's 22 ... Don't bite my head off I'm not comparing him to datsyuk or zetterberg but if I'm right both didn't play in the ahl either and both werent in the nhl at 22 ?
And as much as we love and hope larkin athanasiou mantha are gonna be top nhl guys ....daigle and Stefan were first overall picks and never did anything so we never know what happens until these guys all play
I do think Janmark has upside. Don't doubt it at all. But he is far too unproven to have much in the way of trade value. While it would have been nice to package him in bringing in a right handed dman, it would be a pipedream due to his lack of trade value. Guys like Pulks have some trade value. Not Janmark. Not even gonna mention Backman as he is damaged goods as far as the Wings go. He was never going to play here, and other GM's know that. He literally had no trade value as long as he was our prospect. The 2nd rounder is the biggest part of this trade that we gave up. Not the end of the world as we still have our first, and if things dont work out and the Wings don't make a run this year, we get the Stars 3rd rounder. Which is not at all far back from where our 2nd rounder is really. 20 spots down tops? Which makes little difference in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. And if we don't get that 3rd? That's because we make the final 4. And if we do make the final 4, I'd bet my left ******** Cole would be an important part of that.
At least .. But we would have to get rid of weiss so salary matches which is why I don't think it'll happen .... Would you do weiss and smith for Phaneuf? And would the leafs do it? I doubt it
Weiss doesn't HAVE to go the other way. Shedding Kindl clears up all the cap space we'd need. Weiss could be moved in summer if we need to shed salary. His contract is very tradable. Hard to say who goes the other way. How much salary retained would dictate the value of getting Phaneuf. I also just realized this is the Cole threat and not the Trade deadline thread so feel free to discuss this further there if you want.
Have you seen what other teams are paying this year?
This is a fair deal both ways.
And we had to make room for all the centers we drafted last year to come into the system.
Holmstrom, ehn, vahatalo, kadeykin, and turgeon.
Janmark isn't worth all this griping.
I didn't even feel the need to gripe about the Legwand deal last year. I knew it had to happen, and Holland was dealing from a weak position at the time. The deal was made to preserve the playoff streak, so it was what it was. While I was ok with the deal, I understood why people didn't like it. Seeing a couple people react the same way to this trade is absolutely mind blowing lol. Was a great move.
Yea the 2nd rounder hurts a little but getting back a 3rd makes it alot better. Especially when Chicago had go give up a 1st for Vermette. We didn't give up our 1st or any of our top Forward or Defensive prospects to get a player that rounds out our top 6. Amazing deal.
Maybe I do but it seems you got no attachment issues and are prepared to give away All of them away except for 2-3 lol ... Is athanasiou larkin mantha ahead of him? Yes ... Doesn't mean janmark won't be a good nhler ... From what I remember we beat a few teams to the punch and selected janmark and it wouldn't surprise me if dallas was one of them(just remember Chicago)
Sorry if I think a 2nd and backman would of been enough for cole ... Just my opinion ... he's a good player but he's 36 and on the decline
Let's just hope cole helps us win the cup and we'll all be happy
Nope, I just realize you have to give up something in a trade to get something back. Cole is a rental. We all know this going in. The team is preparing for a playoff run. We gave up next to nothing in this deal. The 2nd rounder holds more value than either of the two prospects, really. They are 2 long shots and being impact NHLers. Such players hold little trade value.
Just because they don't have a future here doesn't mean they won't be good else where? Janmark has upside
Janmark is far down on the depth chart. He had very little trade value. A prospect like him is never gonna bring in any high profile players in a trade. We literally gave up no noteworthy prospects, and may get high 3rd round pick in return (with the exception being a fun playoff run if we don't). You have attachment issues to our prospects lol.
Like I said before I like cole and he's the guy I wanted us to get ... Also didn't think he would cost us this much though ... He could be a complete bust but i liked janmarks upside and even though our prospect pool is high doesn't mean we should just give them away for older ufa's
What's funny is just today on twitter I was going on to someone about how I hope janmark convinces backman to come down fulltime next year and now there both gone lol
Are you serious? Please tell me this is a joke. Because this is a great trade for the Wings. We lost two prospects who have zero future here. Two prospects who have very little value. And by trading them, this team has a better shot at a deep playoff run.
I don't want anymore additions to this team unless we lose guys like weiss andersen miller kindl off our lineups
Dread to think what we'd give up next for some one who's not a 36 yr old ufa
Doesn't mean everything Kenny does is gold
Cole is the kind of guy you win with in the playoffs. We got him for next to nothing (aka a player that ran back to Sweden and a guy who was never making this team due to being too far back on the depth chart.)