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#2517994 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by marcaractac on 28 April 2014 - 01:08 PM

The Blackhawks have all their money tied up in a few guys...Hmm....


And why only 2-3 years? Did I say sign 37+ year olds? No, so not sure where you got that from.


And it's your opinion that there are only 10 defenseman better - in +/- he finished 130. In defenseman only. Pretty good year, right?


I don't even own NHL 14. You're the best at this.


Defense is more important than offense. Also, we need game changers right now or we will just waste the rest of Pav and Z's careers. Give up what you need to for 2 great dman and sign one real power forward. Buyout Franzen.


I love how +/- is your only argument on deciding whether Kronwall is a top pairing or second pairing defenseman. This is just one of many reasons why nobody is taking you serious.


Plans for next season:


Tank, tank hard, tank fast. Get the first overall and draft McDavid. 


2015 team:


Zetterberg-McDavid (ELC)-Mantha (ELC)

Pulkkinen (ELC)-Datsyuk-Nyquist

Tatar-Sheahan (ELC)-Jurco (ELC)

Abdelkader-Helm- Callahan (ELC)


Use the savings on cheap, young, extremely talented forwards on a couple defensemen.



Tell me that isn't sexy as hell?


The idea of tanking a season for a draft pick is sickening

#2517884 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by marcaractac on 28 April 2014 - 01:00 AM

I've played competitive hockey for 20 years. I listened. Did I say ever say Nyquist wasn't soft, anywhere? In fact if you look in the "what happened to Nyquist" thread, I said he should put on some muscle. We were tougher in 08, yes. We were a better team and Kronwall was a 3-4. He was also 28 years old and on a team with the greatest defenseman of a generation and arguably the one of the greatest of all time. Comparing anything about hockey now to hockey in 1997 is asinine. This is a completely different game. As far as Nyquist and Tatar not being as good as Zetterberg and Datsyuk, in their first years in the league, Zetterberg abd Datsyuk weren't as good as Zetterberg and Datsyuk.


I don't think using common sense will work  :lol:

#2517875 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by marcaractac on 28 April 2014 - 12:38 AM


You're right. That's all my post said. You're so tough with your online sarcasm. Man, you're like as tough as Tatar or something.


One, Nyq and Tatar are not as good as Dats and Z. That's a fact. Nyq and Tatar look like potential Hudlers. Dats and Z at least were tough on the puck and back checked. 


Two, to get good players, you have to give up prospects. So give them up. Will Tatar be great? Maybe. He might also be the next Ville L., too. We need two top-4 D. Bad. Kronwall is a 3-4 and so is Big E. That's just the truth. Holland doesn't seem to realize that. And apparently, either do a lot of you.


I now know not to take anything you ever say seriously. Kronwall a 3-4 dman? Please. I guess when a team does so much winning, some fans expectations get absolutely warped. If Kronwall is a 2nd pairing dman, in your world there are 60 dmen in the league better than him. But have fun continuing to tout your opinions as fact. Makes an entertaining read.

#2517871 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by marcaractac on 28 April 2014 - 12:21 AM


No, you're right. Keep barely making the playoffs and losing before the conference finals. Not competing against BOS, SJ (x2), & NASH.

The Wings are fine. We don't need to make any changes.



Who is saying changes don't need to be made? You're talking cleaning house and only keeping a few guys who will no longer be playing by the end of the decade. That is not how a rebuild is done. If a team is to be blown up to start over, it is done the exact opposite as what you suggest. Keeping the youth, getting assets for the older guys. Still not a viable option for this team, as the future isn't near as bad as you seem to think it is.


Do changes need to be made? Yes. But not to the extent you seem to think. Cutting the dead wight and a couple important editions can have this team making noise once again. Players like Goose and Tatar will continue to grow and improve. They will learn how to win. 10 years ago Hank and Dats didn't know how to win either. People were even suggestion Dats should be traded because he was a playoff no show. See how things can change in a few short years? 


If you wanna cheer for a team that blows everything up whenever they don't win, perhaps root for the Flyers? The Wings don't get top draft picks. The players they draft have to be developed over time. I'm glad Wings management has more patience than you do. It is the cap era. You don't build a team through trades and free agency. You build a team through the draft, then use free agency and trades to add pieces to make a run when the time is right. This team will get there. A lot sooner than you think.

#2517850 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by marcaractac on 27 April 2014 - 10:53 PM

There are many points and counter points being brought up. But let's go deeper and more in depth.

1. Franzen is a good deal at a 4 mil cap hit. Is that true? What other players have cap hits between 3.75 and 4.25 million? in no order: Hornqvist, van Reimsdyk, Voracek, Callahan, Dubinsky, Oshie, Stewart, Ladd, pavelski, Simmons, Bickell, Duchene, steen, and many others. Of the names listed, how many would you take straight up for franzen? All of them.

2. he plays good D. LOL Don't even know where to start with that one. he is terrible.

3. he can be a decent 3rd liner. Really? 4 million for a 3rd line guy? If he is on the 3rd, then who do we demote? Sheahan? Jurco? tatar? That's is our 3rd line. We need 1 or 2 top 6 guys with size and grit. If that isn't Franzen, then he has no home on this team.

4. For his career Franzen averages 26 goals per 82 regular season games. But he doesn't play 82 games per year. he averages 66 games per non lockout year. taking his goal per game average times 66 games is only 21 goals per year. yes those are averages, some years are better and some are worse. But that is what we are paying 4 million per season for. That isn't very much production for the money.


Not making an argument for or against Mule here, but most of those contracts are also RFA contracts. Every one of those players next contract will be much bigger. 

#2517435 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2014 - 09:54 PM

The first question is Babcock. he has 1 year left on his current deal. Does he extend or is he going to retire/leave?


I sure hope he gets extended. 

#2517434 What is more important?

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2014 - 09:53 PM

I'd go with neither. You need a complete team to go the distance. 

#2517415 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2014 - 08:22 PM

Ignore everything from his past lmao like those 4 pts in 17 games he had in Florida? I'm sorry but your a bit delusional ... I'd expect him to get his 50 pts nothing else he's not a star


I'm delusional because Weiss has always been a good, consistent and reliable player until he ran into a bit of bad luck with injuries? Argue my points all day long. No need to resort to calling someone delusional.  You're ignoring everything he has ever accomplished, and picking out stats from an injured season so you can complain about him. 


How about getting back on topic, as Weiss has nothing to do with Legwand.

#2517405 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2014 - 08:02 PM

If legwand was that good he'd be in the top 6 believe me it's not like our guys outside of datsyuk did anything that series

And well see about weiss been 2 years he's done f*** all

I do hope he gets his 50 pts cause were stuck with him ... I'm sure as he'll not expecting him to get 60-80 that will never happen


Weiss was with us for 1 season. Played hurt while he was here. What a bust! But yes, lets just ignore everything about his past so we can complain about him.

#2517391 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2014 - 07:42 PM

If your asking then you know the answer

We got No choice but to accept we got seriously raped in that deal .... I sure as hell don't wanna see legwand return to detroit among a few other guys

Time to let the kids fly
I like how our saviour was a 4th liner here

I said he was a good 3rd line center on most good nhl teams and got sh*t by some ... Can't even crack the top 3 in detroit

Adios legwand


Legwand wasn't on the "fourth" line because he can't cut it as a second line center. He was on that line so give the team some balance to play 4th lines. It's not like the 4th line was only playing a few minutes a game here. They were getting 2nd line ice time depending on the game, dating back to the end of the regular season. But if you want to base your arguments solely off of looking at the lineup sheet, then go right ahead. Babs depended on that line to play a lot of important minutes in the series. You make it sound as if he was nothing  more than a 4th liner seeing 3 or 4 minutes per game.

Ya you lost me lol first off beloved Franzen? I don't even want him to return I'm sick of his inconsistencies .... That being said I do think he's a top 6 guy ... I just think it's time to turn the page

And who has 5 more pts legwand? Well not for nothing Nashville isn't stacked with any real offensive threats which is why he probably got a lot of the ice time there which is why I said he's really a number 3 guy on most good teams and got s***

Couldn't even crack the top 4 here ... One of the same reasonings I gave for weiss and got s*** as well .... Injuries or not he's been a disaster for 2 yrs as well ... But we're talking about legwand here so forget weiss


Don't worry, Weiss will have you eating crow soon enough

#2517381 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2014 - 07:27 PM

lol Mrazek is getting so overrated, guy hasn't even played 10 NHL games yet and people magically think he could fix all the problems with this team...


Howard and Monster may not be elite but a good defense is much more needed than another unproven goaltender. The first pairing is not good enough making that pairing better automatically improves the whole defense so somone like Letang, Niskanen or - if available - McDonagh should be priority #1


Nobody is saying he is gonna magically solve all this teams problems. I don't think it is far fetched to say he is our future goalie. But he will never get to grow into that roll in the AHL, which is why he needs to be the next Red Wings back up. So he can get his experience and get better. 

#2517376 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2014 - 07:23 PM

Please do some research and you will see who os comparing him to Z. There are some real scouts who are getting paid for that job...


Comparing his game to Zetterberg is not the same as saying he will be another Zetterberg. 

#2517372 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2014 - 07:20 PM

this team is going nowhere with Howard.


That's why Mrazek needs to be backing him up next season rather than bring Gus back on another deal. Mrazek is the guy who this team will win with. Time to get him regular NHL playing time.


I dont think a whole lot needs to be done on D. Having E healthy gives a solid top 4 is Smith keep improving the way he has. The issue putting together a solid 3rd pairing. Having a vet shut down dman would go a long way in helping that. 

#2517316 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2014 - 06:19 PM

I like how Jarnkrok is already being called the next Zetterberg after 12 games in the NHL.

#2517307 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2014 - 06:07 PM

Whatever, I leave the business end to you. I just want him gone. 


No sir the business end comes down to Wings management.