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#1917888 Another dirty hit

Posted by Z and D for the C on 17 March 2010 - 11:39 PM

Truly hysterical dive. Glad that the ducks scored because of it.


#1917473 Red Wings GM Ken Holland hasn't given up on wandering Jiri Hudler

Posted by Z and D for the C on 16 March 2010 - 11:05 PM

If last year if Hudler would have stayed scoring the same rate and had gotton the time Filppula had gotten Hudler would have a prorated Point total of 68.7, compared to Filppula's 40, and if he was given Z's icetime, he would have scored 78 points.


Last year, if Hudler was given Filppula's even strength time on ice, he would have scored 36 even strength points, compared to Filppula's 36.

Given Zetterberg's ES TOI last year, Hudler would have scored 37 even strength points, compared to Zetterberg's 41.


Your stats are seriously skewed because you're not taking into account all the differences for even strength, short handed and power play.

Again, if Filppula (I'm not using Filppula here because I have a hard on for him, but because he's the closest comparison) was given Hudler's PP time, Filppula's point totals would have been very close to Hudler's actual total last year.


#1917147 Holmstrom has had a great season

Posted by Z and D for the C on 16 March 2010 - 10:44 AM

He's definitely been absolutely greet this year. Last summer I thought this should be his last but if he still wants to I think we should sign him in an instant.


#1917134 Red Wings GM Ken Holland hasn't given up on wandering Jiri Hudler

Posted by Z and D for the C on 16 March 2010 - 10:12 AM

you realise if you gave him Filppula's minutes with his scoring rate from last year and he'd be prorated for well over 70 points this year right? You do realise that last year he had a better scoring pace than Franzen, Zetterberg, and Filppula right? Don't try to argue, I have the stats prorated for ES, PP, and Pk time, and if Hudler switched any of their minutes he would outpreform them substancially (well Franzen by 2 points, but Z and Fil by 10+ points)


Last year Hudler and Filppula had the exact same "points per minute" at even strength. (ie if you gave Hudler Filppula's ES minutes last year, he would have scored a whopping .1 point more than Filppula). I think Filppula would have a higher points per minute at even strength if Filppula didn't play in all situations.

I'm sick of the "hudler did so well with so little minutes" gig. If you gave Filppula Hudler's PP time last year, Filppula scores over 50 points and Hudler doesn't even break 40. All his points came from the massive amount of PP time he got. Only Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Holmstrom got more.

I'll even go further. Last year, Hudler had .113 PPM on the PP. This year Filppula has .083. BUT, compare the linemates they had on the PP.

http://www.dobberhoc...nations&sent=go
http://www.dobberhoc...nations&sent=go

It's black and white.


#1916996 Hudler and Dynamo Moscow out in first round of playoffs

Posted by Z and D for the C on 15 March 2010 - 11:56 PM

Filppula has the potential to:

1. Be the greatest Swedish player ever (I know he's Finnish. Limiting him to one country is an obvious mistake made by people who can't see his talent.)

2. Win the Stanley Cup single-handedly (Screw the KHL playoffs).

3. Be the Messiah awaited by the Jews.

4. Go back in time to kill Hitler.

Anyone who doesn't see this is a moron.


Because these are all right up there with Filppula being a second line center who can put up 60-65 points in a season.


#1916883 3/15 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Flames 1

Posted by Z and D for the C on 15 March 2010 - 10:58 PM

Possible thread blow up in 14 seconds...


Hah. (I +1'd you, we're even)



Man I almost felt that goal coming.


#1916802 3/15 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Flames 1

Posted by Z and D for the C on 15 March 2010 - 10:28 PM

They need to stop jinxing our PK


#1915969 Hudler and Dynamo Moscow out in first round of playoffs

Posted by Z and D for the C on 14 March 2010 - 09:54 PM

But....super hudler...


#1913675 Why is there so much love for Filppula on this board?

Posted by Z and D for the C on 11 March 2010 - 09:07 AM

I love how the Filppula crowd jumps in and tries to make Kesler's contract an example of why I'm wrong on Filppula. So, Kesler's projection of 27 pts=$1.75 M, Filppula's 36 points earned him $3M. I bet Kesler wishes he put up just a few more points, by that logic. So what if he wasn't a point-per-game AHLer. Kesler is still the better player.


I love how you try to use Kesler's contract as an example of why you're RIGHT on Filppula.


The point is, though Kesler may be the better play NOW, Filpulla was looking a lot better then Kesler was prior to last year and that is why he got the better contract.

And frankly I think that Filppula would be matching Kesler's production (though perhaps fewer goals) given his spot in Vancouver's lineup.


#1913457 Filppula to be paired with Zetterberg

Posted by Z and D for the C on 10 March 2010 - 09:41 PM

What are you talking about? I thought Ericsson played one of his better games. Do people here even watch games or do they just make assumptions when they post?


I agree, I thought Ericsson was very good last game.


#1912735 Why is there so much love for Filppula on this board?

Posted by Z and D for the C on 09 March 2010 - 10:12 PM

I really think you'll understand why we did in about 5 years.


Like he'll even be a wings fan that long from now.


#1912519 3/9 GDT: Flames 4 at Red Wings 2

Posted by Z and D for the C on 09 March 2010 - 09:23 PM

This team isf****** horrible, and Babcock is an idiot.


#1912403 3/9 GDT: Flames 4 at Red Wings 2

Posted by Z and D for the C on 09 March 2010 - 09:02 PM

I think it's fair to say that since babcock is too stupid to change the lines, we won't be scoring another goal. GG Calgary, have fun with the 8th spot.


#1911689 Official Poll: Filppula at 3 Mil. or Hossa at 5.4 + return for Filppul

Posted by Z and D for the C on 08 March 2010 - 10:35 PM

Hossa is undoubtedly the better back checker, but in the defensive zone I'd say they're the same.

and gcom, let me say that the only other red wing I liked as much as Flip last year was Hossa.


And this thread seems to be turning into a "Who is better" thread. There is no doubt that Hossa is twice the player Filppula is. It's stupid to argue. And frankly, this is just a stupid thread. It comes down to a personal opinion that can't be argued.


#1911259 Official Poll: Filppula at 3 Mil. or Hossa at 5.4 + return for Filppul

Posted by Z and D for the C on 08 March 2010 - 01:28 AM

To be fair, I do not hate Filppula, I just think a lot of people on this site go to ridiculous lengths to defend him. I really don't think saying Hossa at 5.4, is a better contract than Val's 3 mil is hate, moreso just my opinion (though I can't fathom how people disagree). Notice that I never did say Filppula was overpaid, I really think he isn't, just that his contract money would be better spent elsewhere, especailly on a team that is in desperate need of a better goal scorer.


I was just kidding.


I really only got excited at the prospect of calling you EasyBakeOven.