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#1919597 3/19 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Oilers 3 (SO)

Posted by Z and D for the C on 19 March 2010 - 11:49 PM

He said you are grasping at straws.


Yeah it's a shame that that doesn't answer my question.


#1919517 3/19 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Oilers 3 (SO)

Posted by Z and D for the C on 19 March 2010 - 11:14 PM

"hey, let's toss one of our worst shootout performers statistically out there in that clutch #3 shooter spot"


Obviously you don't remember Filppula's last clutch goal in the shootout that kept us alive.


#1919283 3/19 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Oilers 3 (SO)

Posted by Z and D for the C on 19 March 2010 - 10:29 PM

filppula on the PP Posted Image


I'd support Filppula on the PP just if it meant you killing yourself.

Name one person you'd put on the PP over Flip. He's not even the lest good player on the PP.


#1918341 Filppula or Hudler

Posted by Z and D for the C on 18 March 2010 - 06:14 PM

why am i not surprised


Because I'm a vocal Filppula supporter and I have a Filppula avatar?


Tell me if I'm close.


#1918283 Filppula or Hudler

Posted by Z and D for the C on 18 March 2010 - 04:20 PM

You even think Filppula is a better passer than Hudler?


Yes. (Maybe not better, but at least equal)

One big thing I think Filppula needs to do is just slow down, he always just seems sort of frantic out there. Generally when people think of Hudler's passing skills it's squeaking one through the slot on the PP (this is the impression I'm under, anyway). Once Filppula learns to slow down the game I think that he can do the same.


#1918232 Filppula or Hudler

Posted by Z and D for the C on 18 March 2010 - 03:17 PM

Their offensive production is equal (though huddles has a better shot/scores more goals), Filppula better everything else.


#1917888 Another dirty hit

Posted by Z and D for the C on 17 March 2010 - 11:39 PM

Truly hysterical dive. Glad that the ducks scored because of it.


#1917473 Red Wings GM Ken Holland hasn't given up on wandering Jiri Hudler

Posted by Z and D for the C on 16 March 2010 - 11:05 PM

If last year if Hudler would have stayed scoring the same rate and had gotton the time Filppula had gotten Hudler would have a prorated Point total of 68.7, compared to Filppula's 40, and if he was given Z's icetime, he would have scored 78 points.


Last year, if Hudler was given Filppula's even strength time on ice, he would have scored 36 even strength points, compared to Filppula's 36.

Given Zetterberg's ES TOI last year, Hudler would have scored 37 even strength points, compared to Zetterberg's 41.


Your stats are seriously skewed because you're not taking into account all the differences for even strength, short handed and power play.

Again, if Filppula (I'm not using Filppula here because I have a hard on for him, but because he's the closest comparison) was given Hudler's PP time, Filppula's point totals would have been very close to Hudler's actual total last year.


#1917147 Holmstrom has had a great season

Posted by Z and D for the C on 16 March 2010 - 10:44 AM

He's definitely been absolutely greet this year. Last summer I thought this should be his last but if he still wants to I think we should sign him in an instant.


#1917134 Red Wings GM Ken Holland hasn't given up on wandering Jiri Hudler

Posted by Z and D for the C on 16 March 2010 - 10:12 AM

you realise if you gave him Filppula's minutes with his scoring rate from last year and he'd be prorated for well over 70 points this year right? You do realise that last year he had a better scoring pace than Franzen, Zetterberg, and Filppula right? Don't try to argue, I have the stats prorated for ES, PP, and Pk time, and if Hudler switched any of their minutes he would outpreform them substancially (well Franzen by 2 points, but Z and Fil by 10+ points)


Last year Hudler and Filppula had the exact same "points per minute" at even strength. (ie if you gave Hudler Filppula's ES minutes last year, he would have scored a whopping .1 point more than Filppula). I think Filppula would have a higher points per minute at even strength if Filppula didn't play in all situations.

I'm sick of the "hudler did so well with so little minutes" gig. If you gave Filppula Hudler's PP time last year, Filppula scores over 50 points and Hudler doesn't even break 40. All his points came from the massive amount of PP time he got. Only Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Holmstrom got more.

I'll even go further. Last year, Hudler had .113 PPM on the PP. This year Filppula has .083. BUT, compare the linemates they had on the PP.

http://www.dobberhoc...nations&sent=go
http://www.dobberhoc...nations&sent=go

It's black and white.


#1916996 Hudler and Dynamo Moscow out in first round of playoffs

Posted by Z and D for the C on 15 March 2010 - 11:56 PM

Filppula has the potential to:

1. Be the greatest Swedish player ever (I know he's Finnish. Limiting him to one country is an obvious mistake made by people who can't see his talent.)

2. Win the Stanley Cup single-handedly (Screw the KHL playoffs).

3. Be the Messiah awaited by the Jews.

4. Go back in time to kill Hitler.

Anyone who doesn't see this is a moron.


Because these are all right up there with Filppula being a second line center who can put up 60-65 points in a season.


#1916883 3/15 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Flames 1

Posted by Z and D for the C on 15 March 2010 - 10:58 PM

Possible thread blow up in 14 seconds...


Hah. (I +1'd you, we're even)



Man I almost felt that goal coming.


#1916802 3/15 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Flames 1

Posted by Z and D for the C on 15 March 2010 - 10:28 PM

They need to stop jinxing our PK


#1915969 Hudler and Dynamo Moscow out in first round of playoffs

Posted by Z and D for the C on 14 March 2010 - 09:54 PM

But....super hudler...


#1913675 Why is there so much love for Filppula on this board?

Posted by Z and D for the C on 11 March 2010 - 09:07 AM

I love how the Filppula crowd jumps in and tries to make Kesler's contract an example of why I'm wrong on Filppula. So, Kesler's projection of 27 pts=$1.75 M, Filppula's 36 points earned him $3M. I bet Kesler wishes he put up just a few more points, by that logic. So what if he wasn't a point-per-game AHLer. Kesler is still the better player.


I love how you try to use Kesler's contract as an example of why you're RIGHT on Filppula.


The point is, though Kesler may be the better play NOW, Filpulla was looking a lot better then Kesler was prior to last year and that is why he got the better contract.

And frankly I think that Filppula would be matching Kesler's production (though perhaps fewer goals) given his spot in Vancouver's lineup.