I'd say it's implied that we're not just talking about Salo in a vacum, we're talking about him in comparision to other options. If you rip a guy apart like whoever did, I'd hope that you have a better option in mind...and I'd genuinely like to hear about it.
What are your thoughts on free-agent to be Nick Lidstrom??
"He's over the hill, lost a step, hardly ever hits anyone, and is bound to get hurt at almost 40 years old. Six plus million for that!? You've gotta be kidding me!!"
...get my point.
Possibly, if there weren't already 1/2 a dozen threads camparing alternatives, but even then you don't have to give the guy attitude.
But there are 1/2 dozen threads already comparing all available options and combinations, and like I said, you specifically asked about people's thoughts on one player. Don't get mad at him because he answered your question correctly and it made you look stupid; get mad at yourself.
I need to just stay away from your threads because I don't agree with the way you think and your crappy replies you give to people. (Not to mention that wanting Holmstrom on the 4rth line shows you really don't get it--it's never going to be 2002 again--the 4rth line has a different job now, and he can't perform it).) I used to join in all your line threads, because i could look over lines all day long, every day. People would give you crap all the time, but I kept joning in, until you gave me a real unprovoked and uncalled for crappy reply on one of my threads. Now I just think you're a dick that really doesn't understand much about hockey at all, or people for that matter.
on this board we have, as we have in many other realms on this planet, an incredible surplus of people that love to shoot down others' ideas, and an incredible shortage of people that dare to propose their own.
Your OP only asked for thoughts on Salo, and DetroitFan gave you his thoughts backed up by three sound reasons, and you got mad and pissy with your repsonse.
And further more, it's not bridging a gap until Suter gets here, it's wasting money while Salo sits injured when we could be getting good production out of someone else.
Yes, it's a quandry, but Salo (or Jovo for that matter) is not the answer.
Step 1: Fire McCrimmon Step 2: Hire/Promote new defensive coach Step 3: sign Ehrhoff/Bieksa Step 4: Howard plays like he did in playoffs all season... Step 5: Win Jennings for least amount of goals conceded..
I'd take Erhoff over Bieksa. Bieksa makes too many tunovers and would crumble under the wrath of LGW. He often looks like Sammy when he gets the puck; unsure of what to do with it, then panics and turns it over.
And he's kind of a dick, he doesn't have the class to wear the red sweater.
When the wind is taken out of your sails with bulls*** dives and then bulls*** calls all night...what exactly did you expect?
Make sure you take a fresh box of tissues with you to bed tonite, sweetheart.
I expect Kronwall to get off his lazy ass and move his feet instead of coasting in and getting totally outworked by Pavelski. Thats what i expect. Pavelski was willing to bust his ass to make the play; Kronwall wasn't. That was symptomatic of too much of the game.
I expect them to have learned from last year that you don't win Stanley Cups by letting the wind get taken out of your sails by little men with whistles and diving divas.
While I agree with you that the wings didn't get enough offense going, I disagree with how you disregarded the dives. The dives have nothing to do with red wing offense. They do however, have something to do with putting the sharks on fake power plays and having increased chances at scoring goals, and oh they tied it on one of those bulls*** powerplays.
So, while I do agree the wings need to pick it up, the fans have every right to ***** about diving and bad calls. Sorry.
I am going to disregard them because they are out of our control. If it was an even game, then I may point out of dive or two. But when we play two periods like we did, I would be very embarrassed to even bring it up.
We did not take care of our own business. We got severely outplayed in the 2nd, and got beat badly in the third. The OT PK was a thing of beauty for 3:55, then not clearing it and getting fresh legs out there cost the game. But at fortyf***ingsix shots on goal, it was just a matter of time before one fluked it's way past Jimmy.
It was an embarrassing 40 minutes of playoff hockey by us, and you guys are worried about dives? We have much bigger things to worry about than that.
You guys are worse than Canuck and Pittsburgh fans. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
11:20 Jonathan Ericsson: 2 Minutes for Hooking Joe Pavelski 6:33 Jiri Hudler: 2 Minutes for Tripping Joe Pavelski 9:57 Jimmy Howard: 2 Minutes for Roughing Joe Pavelski 9:41 Todd Bertuzzi: 2 Minutes for Boarding Joe Pavelski
No, actually this stat line says it all for this game.
Shots: SJ 46; Det 25 Score: SJ 2; Det 1
They give up 46 shots to only 25 and you guys are bitchin about dives? 18 shots in the 2nd period alone? Sheeyaat.
Half way thru the 3rd my wife said "One goal isn't going to do it for this game. The Wings better pick it up". She was right.
Dive schmive, the Wings had no jump after the 1st period.
Their organization whines almost as much as their fans, Sedins dive, Burrows dives, Luongo dives a lot, the fanbase overall is annoying and always talk up their team which has never won anything,
Good summation, there, actually.
I've lived all over the world. In '98 I moved to Bellingham and tried to become a Canucks fan (2nd to the Wings, of course).
But Brian Burke was an unbelievable whiner. He was incredibly condescending in every interview I ever heard on The Team 1040. In short, he was a jackass. ("If Trevor Linden gets a better offer than what I gave him, I'll drive him to the airport"). Crawford was an ass in his interviews too. Always defensive, etc.
It trickled down thru the organization and the team, although incredibly talented, was rancid.
Dave Nonis was Burke Jr. Schooled by Burke and was a walking Mini Me of Burke. Made some good moves, but the guys attitude was impossilbe to like.
The Green Guys.
The "Luuuuuuuuuuu" everytime a puck hits Luongo in the logo. Annoying, 2nd only to the Jordan Tootoo whistle. If you want to heap praise on a player, you wait for the player to accumulate a few great moments and then when he ragdolls an opponent and turns the tide of a game, all 18,000 of you chant his name in unison: "Todd Ber TU Zi!"
Gillis is also super condescending in his interviews to the Team 1040. He is getting a little better, but just the other day I was thinking what a great interview Ken Holland is. Holland, Babcock, Devallano, Nil, the Illitch's, all people I would love to have over to my house for dinner. Not Gillis.
Gillis is smart, though. He refers to Detroit as the Gold Standard for NHL franchises and that's what he wants to do in Vancouver. That's cool. It seems he has that team set up real well. On the other hand, who locks an unproven goalie up for 12 years? And I guess we will see about the Sedins. I've liked them for a long time and stood up for them when Canuck fans called them the Sedin Sisters. I am super glad that the twins won the Art Ross back to back. (Can you imaing eif Burke would have signed them in Toronto before Gillis resigned them, and they won the Art Ross back to back in Torontao instead of Vancouver! ) But Milbury was right when he called them the Twinkies saying they have been totally ineffective in round one and are afraid to go to the ruff parts of the ice, unlike Pavs and Z.
It's cool that they have a Michigan boy leading the charge.
AV is a likeable coach. I'm glad he is doing well.
I've tried to like Burrows but just can't.
I like Sammy, and Erhoff was a great addition. Torres? I just don't know about that guy. Manny Malhotra is a class act. (Married to NBA Steve Nash's sister) I wish him all the best in his recovery.
Vancouver's attitude after beating Chicago was not right.
I don't hate the Canucks, but they make it difficult to like them. A lot of people in Bellingham feel that way.
If he is forced to retire by his family that would be great, I hate that f*****.
That's kinda funny, cause I know you and all the plus five (or whatever it's up to at any given point) are not serious. Yeah, i hate that f***** too.Ha ha.
He's incredible. And it's a shame his season got cut short (and I'll be the first one to call out Don Cherry and the rest of the media; I don't think it was a dirty hit at all, it was an unintentional collision, more Crosby's fault than whatshisname's) because he was light years ahead of everyone in points.
And on the like vs don't like arguement, I'd love to play some pond hockey and then go have a beer with him (or hot chocolate cause the guy probably doesn't drink beer), even though I really don't like to hear about him from the casual fan. WHen the casual fan wants to talk hockey with me and thats all they can think of is the Crosby clip they saw on ESPN, I roll my eyes and think this dude has no clue as to what he is talking about.
But the casual fan is not here on LGW. There is NO reason Crosby has given the real hockey fan to hate him enough to hope his career is cut chort by a brain injury.
I hope he comes back to his 100% level, and is however awesome he is during the season and playoffs, and then the Detroit Red Wings beat him in the Stanley Cup Finals again, and again.