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In Topic: Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

14 September 2015 - 05:31 PM

If you expect Green to prevent goals like Lids and Niedermayer then you should already be disappointed with this signing


It's hard, nay, damn near impossible to replace St. Nick - anyone who's watched half a dozen Wings' games should be able to attest to that fact.  However, that in and of itself shouldn't make someone disappointed with the signing.  Do you think Franson would provide a better back end presence to the team?  Frankly I'm intrigued to see what Green can do on the blueline with DeKeyser, or on the power play with Kronwall.  The Lidstroms and Niedermayers of the hockey world are few and far between, but this was a Norris-trophy caliber D-Man only a few seasons ago.  At the stage of his career, with the arsenal of weapons bristling out of this team, is there any reasonable doubt whether he could get to 50-52 points on the year, landing him in the top 10 of last season's D-men?  The purely defensive edge of things is harder to quantify, to be sure, but the Wings have been missing a powerplay QB and diversified outlet passing for the past few seasons.

In Topic: Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

14 September 2015 - 04:18 PM

I'm not saying the number should be retired but if someone is coming into the organization they should know a bit about the history right? I mean signing with another team to me also means looking at the tradition, how things are done and learn about the beloved players in the city.

I mean Super Mario's number is not retired league wide and yet nobody is wearing 66 out of respect. Or another example even if Pasha won't have his number retired 13 will always be Pasha for me.

Guys like DMac are so easy to like they've worked hard to make to the but show and then they've worked even harder to stay on the team and add a very important dimension. And this is not just Wings specific there is a reason why guys like Clark, Tucker and Gilmore are some of the most beloved Leafs ever although not the most talented. If people don't like him fine but to act like 25 isn't a special number is wrong for a lot of fans it is and always will be.

I mean if Green really wants the number that much at least do the classy thing and ask DMac if it's ok for him. I'm more than sure he would have said sure go ahead and the optics would be a lot different.


I don't mean to be beating a dead horse here, nor do I specifically mean to be calling out you, Frankgrimes, but surely I cannot be the only one who remember's McCarty tweeting something overtly and openly positive when Cory Emmerton took over #25 in 2012.  My Google-Fu is lacking at the moment, but I distinctly recall D-Mac tweeting out something like "Best player to carry on the tradition of #25" when it was made official.  @D-Mac25, which as far as I can tell was McCarty's twitter handle (evidence here) has since been suspended for reasons unknown, but the fact remains it didn't appear he was at all against someone else taking on his number - why should we as fans hold a grudge if he didn't/doesn't? And that being said, do we honestly expect guys to cow-tow to the fans' enthusiasm for each and every player who has worn a jersey number?  I think the precedent has been well established with a newcomer joining a team having to "buy" a number off of a guy who preceded him on the roster - but the crucial thing being if it is an active roster player!  If Green is supposed to check with each of the (living) 31+ players to have sported the #25 for the Wings before stepping on the ice, I think we're going to run into issues.  As long as it's not retired, or some well-known EXCEPTIONAL case like Aurie or Vladdy, any number that Paul Boyer freely assigns should be good with us.


Perhaps a bit more back on track, I remember a few years back when Green was a Norris contender thanks to all the points he put up in Washington - and the outrage that this garnered from the Red Wings / Nick Lidstrom faithful saying how he wasn't a true "defensive defenseman."  With that in mind: would you rather have the point production out of him that the team seems to have been lacking in recent years, or a shut-down D-Man to limit the opponent's goals against?

In Topic: Anyone know the Red Wings all-time record at JLA?

12 April 2015 - 02:54 PM

Looks like the team's 784-383-119-77 (W-L-T-OL) all time at the Joe.   Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.


Source: http://www.hockey-re...ouis-arena.html

In Topic: 3/29 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Islanders 5

29 March 2015 - 06:16 PM

Watching a stream with the Islanders' commentators - the homerism really shines through, sadly.  Who else is concerned we've registered 0 SOG in the 4rd?

In Topic: 1/13 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Sabres 1

14 January 2015 - 01:15 AM

I'm pretty sure it was entirely intentional to retire the number when playing the team he won the cup on.


That's what I figured.  Plus who really thinks of Hasek and pictures him as a Hawk or a Senator??