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#2531424 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by wings87 on Yesterday, 10:50 PM

This is actually very sad because instead of being hated vehemently, Cleary should be celebrated for the hard-nosed player he used to be. But with this latest move Holland has turned him into a persona non grata.


#2531345 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by wings87 on Yesterday, 08:06 PM

Helene St. James ‏@HeleneStJames 1m
#RedWings GM Ken Holland: "My program has been one of loyalty and there's good and bad that goes with that. Way more good, in my opinion."
 
 
so is holland himself admitting that the cleary signing is a bad one?


He wasn't particularly loyal to Schneider who he let leave. Or Draper/ Maltby/ or Ozzy who all wanted to keep playing but were forced into retirement because Holland didn't want them back. I'm sure there have been others but I neither want to remember nor research it.


#2531179 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by wings87 on Yesterday, 04:36 PM

I believe in loyalty and in rewarding players for past accomplishments, but here is what I don't get. Last off-season the Wings offered Cleary a new deal (a pretty fair one to boot) but he decided he was worth more and the team moved on.

 

He was the one that was ready too leave, I'm going to say that again- he wanted to leave. The team didn't push him out or forced him to retire like they did with Draper and Ozzy. Loyalty should go both ways, why is the team being so loyal to a player that refused to sign a fair deal in the beginning and only took a discount late because the Wings had no cap space.  




#2531141 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by wings87 on Yesterday, 04:11 PM

I GIVE UP!


#2531109 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by wings87 on Yesterday, 03:52 PM

They aren't ridiculous you want two of the best players in the game, gotta pay and it's not their fault that longterm contracts are no longer allowed.
 
Put yourself in Toews shoes, he would have gotten maximum and left money on the table so I don't know what some are expecting. To me 1.5 million per year is a huge discount, one I wouldn't have given.
 
As for Keith: great defenseman yes but overall Weber and I would argue even Suter are better, because they are playing a more complete overall game.


I think there's some misunderstanding, it's a great deal for both of them. It's not a great deal for the team or the league.

The first lockout happened because the league and owners wanted spending limits after that the cap started climbing and the players were getting more money so there was another lockout. Which once again cut salaries and imposed spending limits- and now ones again the cap is spiraling out of control and so are the salaries. So my point is market value or not what exactly was the point of the lockouts? The owners essentially took money from players with existing contracts and are now giving that money out in new contracts. There should either be a hard cap, no cap, or get rid of the team cap and just cap the length and salary of each contract. But the owners want to be able to do what they want and have restrictions, it's a flawed system that's leading the league into another lockout.


#2531020 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by wings87 on Yesterday, 12:55 PM

The Owners/League never learn, do they? I guess they can just continue to give out ridiculous contracts, while raising the cap, and in a few years ***** and moan until another lockout occurs- pulling their ass out of the fire once again. This has occurred 3 times on Bettman's watch and it's destined to happen again if this continues. There should either be no spending limits or strict ones, the system they have now is a complete joke. 




#2530916 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by wings87 on 09 July 2014 - 08:03 PM

 
I love when people start differentiating between us real and us fake fans...  I'd never be able to tell us apart....

You have to look really close, the "non-real" fans have a birthmark of Crosby on their ass.


#2530273 Please Help Me Win GDT of the year.

Posted by wings87 on 06 July 2014 - 03:50 PM

Unfortunately once its activated you need to have 45 posts and 45 days of membership before you can vote in polls.

Geez, who runs half boards? Hydra? I guess instead of a vote I'll send out good wishes.


#2529259 Can Z and Pav do anything to protest? (not that they would)

Posted by wings87 on 02 July 2014 - 12:13 AM

Not show? Protest? Are they hippies? Are you thinking Occupy Joe Louis or something?


With the way Holland is designing this team pretty soon only the players will be occupying Joe Louis Arena.


#2529243 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by wings87 on 01 July 2014 - 11:09 PM

The Red Wings have turned into the ugly cousin at a wedding that no one wants to sleep with.


#2529189 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by wings87 on 01 July 2014 - 09:30 PM

 
Moment you've been waiting for GMR. Quote from KH:
 
There are still a lot of players out there that could be good one-year bargains, Holland said. Well keep kicking tires. I was hoping to get one or two right-shot defensemen, but they signed elsewhere, thats their prerogative. Thats going to happen more and more with the cap ceiling and floor going up.


I'd like to kick him in the tires.


#2528211 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by wings87 on 01 July 2014 - 01:44 PM

[quote name="Z Winged Dangler" post="2528207" timestamp="1404240137"]

I'm gonna go play some games cause Holland has sufficiently bored the s*** out of me.  When I check back here, Cleary and Quincey better be signing long term contracts, and we better be in talks with Sammy! ;)[/
quote]
By the end of this day Sammy will have Kenny's job.


#2528190 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by wings87 on 01 July 2014 - 01:37 PM

The wings motto is the same as the Statue of Liberty -"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses". The problem is that even the tired, poor, huddled masses don't want to sign here.


#2522870 NHL Logos+The Simpsons

Posted by wings87 on 05 June 2014 - 11:13 AM

Just saw this, it's drawings of NHL logos with Simpson characters.

Love the Sharks logo.

http://bleacherrepor...orial&hpt=hp_c3


#2522493 2014 SCF : (2) The Big Apple vs. (3) Hollywood

Posted by wings87 on 02 June 2014 - 10:41 AM

Go Rangers! Rooting for them for a couple reasons: They seem to be the feel good story,with St.Louis. I also think it will be good for the league if a big market team, from the east coast (not named Pittsburgh) wins the Cup, NY has been hungry for a Cup since Messier. Another reason would be that my Nephew-a huge WIngs fan- lives in southern California and gets flack from his coaches and teammates who are Kings fans. I want the Rangers to win so they would Shut Up and my nephew doesn't have to listen to them celebrate.