thedisappearer

Baseball season.

Ok, what is a Blue Moon? (aside from dropping your pants in December)

It's Coors attempt at a craft brew.  It's a Belgium white.  It's decent if you don't know where to find actual Belgium whites.

Yeah, no.  Say puck drop is 7:30 p.m.  That means from 4:30 to 7:30 you can sit in the parking lot and drink until you can't tell colors from shapes anymore.  How are you going to get any enjoyment out of the hockey game if you're so drunk your blood qualifies as a cocktail?  As someone else alluded to, how are you supposed to get home?  You're not going to be dead sober by the time the game ends, so you can't drive anywhere.  

I don't drink, and have family reasons for why that is, but I don't have anything against someone who has a beer or two at the game, or at a concert, or at a restaurant....whatever.  It's people who drink until they're falling down drunk that I don't like, because they're invariably seated near me, and not only do I have to hear them, I have to smell them, and that takes away from my ability to enjoy myself, and that's not taking into account everyone else around him/her either.  

If you think drinking until you can't stand up qualifies as a good time, that's kind of sad.

Just to say, there's plenty of us who could find a "$35 all you can drink" and make it finacially responsible *and* not aren't drunken messes in public.  35 bucks at $5 a beer = 7 beers.  Even if those are 12 full ounces (doubtfully) that's not that much to people who regularly consume alcohol responsibily.  Hell, I've had 8 or 9 pints of beer today (Happy St Paddy's Day to all!) and you don't even have to smell me.

I realize that many people on this forum weren't born yet when the Red Wings were a bad team.  There's a great deal of pride in the accomplishments of one's team, especially when it is improvement over the recent past.

After a number of good years, one tends to take it in stride and expect that the prior results will continue, whereas teams with a history of falling short will show their excitement over small achievements.

And so, in many ways, the Wings fans of today are like adults who are so busy striving for the Big Prize that we fail to stop and appreciate the lesser accomplishments that we achieve on our way to the Big Prize.  And the Blues fans are like children who still announce to the entire household, "I made poopoo in the potty!"

Am I allowed to have a sig line this long?  Please?

LOL.  I have a degree in history as well.  I just don't use it to justify shortsighted points and reinforce it with s***ty logic.  But you do, so that's cool.    But you say you are a historian so…

You really think I'm basing my judgment on one event?  Have you missed the last 40 years where Philly has more than earned the reputation as a hive of terrible sports fans?  In every sport?  Yeah, there are bad guys everywhere, but show me another town that CONSISTENTLY shows disgusting levels of violence and disrespect as Philly.  Even Ken Dryden in his 1983 book recognized Philly as the worst sports fans.  They had that reputation ALREADY back in the early 80s.  They've earned it.

And, for the record, anecdotal evidence of your personal experience does not trump evidence gathered by news media for the greater part of 40 years. I hate that kind of defense.  "Well I've never seen anything bad, therefore it must not be bad."  I've never been shot or raped in Detroit but it happens.

And, just to put icing on the cake:  recently a women was hit by THREE cars in Philly, they all drove off instead of stopping.

I never said you were basing anything off of one event.  I'm not sure how you came to that point, but whatever, that's you, not me.

I have not missed what the media has been saying about Philly sports fans, which is why I also said

Lots (but not all) of the stories about how horrible Philly fans are are exaggerated or completely fabricated because it's cool to tell a story about d-bag Philly fans

.  I stand behind that.  It's like the booing Santa story.  No one seems to understand the actual story, and more importantly, the context of the events.  But, it's used, incorrectly, as proof that Philly has horrible fans.  Again, I know there have been many instances where Philly fans acted poorly, the whole J D Drew thing, and appluading when Michael Irvin was injured coem to mind immediately, but I still argue that it's abotu the same as any city.  Chicago had a father and son run on the field to attack a coach.  Yet, there's no running meme about Chicago fans.  I find it revealing that you are willing to discount 30 years of being an away fan at Philly games, to include playoff game the home team lost, but will use a book (a form of media) as evidence… and complain that my multiple experiences are a poor defense… while parroting the line media puts out there to have something to talk about.  It's interesting circular logic, it's just not correct.  It's sad that you will regurgitate what the media says without any firsthand experience (wait, you *have* gone to at least one game in Philly, right…?), while discounting the hundreds of times I have attended a sporting event in Philly wearing the jersey of a Detroit team with zero incidents.  And I assure you, I am a vocal fan.  But hey, Dryden says something, and ESPN agrees, so it's a fact.

I'm glad you feel that "a women" being subject to being hit by a car is icing on some sort of cake, but there's illegal activity in every city and town in the world.  That hardly means the fans in that city or town are bad.  Even if it happened in the parking lot of a sporting event, it shows you, at the worse, that three people are jackasses whose feeling of self-importance trump their desire to function responsibily in society.  Wow, such damning evidence.  Three people are assholes.  Yep, the entire fanbase of the city is horrible.  Hope you enjoy that cake.

Can Philadelphia please be stripped of any and all sports teams?  Their fans are among the worst human beings I've ever seen.  Consistently.

Get over yourself.  I've been going to Wings-Flyers games in Philly as a Wings fan for 3 decades now.  No issues (to include the 97 SCF games…).  I didn't act like a ****** bag, I got treated like a hockey fan.  Not to say there aren't d-bag Philly fans, but there are d-bag fans in every town with a team.  Lots (but not all) of the stories about how horrible Philly fans are are exaggerated or completely fabricated because it's cool to tell a story about d-bag Philly fans.  But no, one dude beats the crap out of somebody = all sports fans in a city of 1.5 million are horrible human beings…

I never thought I say such a thing, but I want him to get better.  I don't like the douchef*** one bit, but him not playing is a loss for the entire NHL.  He's good for the game.

Yeah, there's an element of hypocrisy to this, but it's not exactly apples and oranges.

God, you guys are such blind homers.

NO YOU'RE BEING DEFENSIVE.

If those are our future enforcers, I'll take soft Euros.  Thanks.

He's af****** hockey player.

He's af****** ****** bag.

Nice to see that the Red Wings have douchey fans like any other team.  It makes us oh, so much more human.

Do you kids not understand the concept of "sportsmanship"?

Yeah, it's great when you are dealing with children.  We're talking professional athletes.  There's no "Participation" ribbon in the NHL.  Yes, they tried really hard and had a s***ty ownership cloud over their head.  Sucks.  Then they got swept.  By a team they took to 7 last year.  Honestly, I'm not sure I am sure of what I should be congratulating them for?  Trying hard while being paid tons of money to play hockey, but failing to do it well?

I have no issue with humility- as I said, they played hard.  But that's also their job.

I'm so glad Im not 100% on how the lottery system works in the NHL.  Thank you, Mr. Holland.

Bring it, Yotes.  It'sf****** on.

Even CBC said it should have been goalie interference.

Why?  Just because he initiated contact in the crease and scored the goal while on top of our goalie?  Really?