Vanek's production dipped with the Wild... you know who else saw their production go down and stay relatively down on the Wild? Parise. I would wager there is a correlation here. I have a feeling his numbers will bounce back with us, assuming we don't misuse him.
His grit means nothing, tbh. We're the only hockey franchise that can win 4 titles in a decade being last in the league in fights and PM's and still think tough guys have any place in the NHL.
Some might say that Dallas Drake was a part of why we won our last cup... Not saying that Ott is comparable to Dallas Drake, but your comment about grit meaning nothing holds no water. Grit does not go hand in hand with fights and PM's.
Worthless and it's only gonna take away Mantha/Pulk
Okay, first of all, Pulk had had ample opportunity to show he can bring it in the NHL and has yet to really earn it. 20 points in 70 games. That doesn't bode well for a sniper. Secondly, Mantha would be wasted on the 4th line. He'd be better of playing top line minutes in Grand Rapids. I would love to have Mantha stay up with the big club this season, but one more year in the AHL may actually benefit him over playing 10 or less minutes a game on a shut-down line.
Good move to bring in some grit on the 4th line. Holland said that AA and Mantha are going to have to push the other guys in training camp, so sounds like they'll be in Grand Rapids, unfortunately. Unless we make a big trade for a D-man. I have to imagine, if we do, it'll involve Nyquist and others.
You can't explain these types of things to Holland apologists. There is like 3 people on here that think what holland did today was a good thing. Even the folks from past off-seasons are questioning Holland and thats including me now.
On one hand, I get the apologists... I used to be one of them. It's true that some players just don't want to come here, but who's fault is that really? It's the GM's responsibility to put the best team on the ice and draft/develop the future. He showed it with Lidstrom/Rafalski and he's showing it again now with Datsyuk/Zetterberg. He doesn't know how to prepare for when our all-stars are getting ready to head out. He'd rather wait until they are at the end or already leaving and then try to hustle to grab the best that's out there. Great. We got a 2nd line center, and I like Nielsen. I think he'll do fine here so long as his wingers can produce as well. That doesn't change the fact that we're sitting here without a first line center. Zetterberg can't play that role anymore and Larkin may have to be thrown into it before he's truly ready for it. Do you want to know why we can't attract solid wingers to this team? They look and don't see any strong Centers to feed them the biscuit, so, of course, they're going to go to other teams. But again, that is Holland's fault. Maybe not this off-season, but over the past 6 years he has failed to ready this team appropriately to move forward in a strong fashion.
Vanek at 3.5-4 million on a 1 year, Brouwer at 4.5 for 4 years, McGinn at 3.5 for 4 years... or if those players truly didn't have any interest in the Wings, let Athansiou play real minutes on the third line. Helm's deal screws the young guys, unless he plays 2C, and that would be him sorely over-valued.
People cry and cry here that Holland never signs players...he signs a decent hockey player for a contract that isn't terrible on a day that is famous for the worse deals. People still whine...whats he supposed to do?
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Not re-sign Darren Helm and Drew Miller, wasting cap space that potentially could go toward a better player who can maybe crack 15 goals in a season.
Just because he was good in NY doesn't mean he'll be here, remember Weiss? We don't have the same players. We have players that can't find the back side of the barn let alone the net.
Weiss flunked out because he couldn't stay healthy, which didn't allot him the time necessary to learn our system, gain any concistency, or gaining any cohesion with linemates.
Nielsen, while I don't think is truly the answer, has only missed 7 games over the past 5 seasons. Other than Okposo, he'll be playing with some better wingers here (Zetterberg, Nyquist, Tatar, Larkin, maybe Mantha if he can transition).
Which makes it even worse when AA is ready to take over his role and can score more than him for a cheap contract right now. Stupid move. I would have rather offered that money to McGinn and add a different dimension who can actually score.