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#2679480 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by kickazz on Yesterday, 02:27 PM

Holland was already talking about "Cholowski going to St. Cloud St for the next 4 years." Then 1-2 in the AHL, that makes 5-6 years from now. Because of the crap teams that drafted Gauthier Jones, and Chychrun each has a better than 50-50 chance of being in the NHL next year. Same with Rubstov. All 4 will have played at least 1 game by the end of the 2017/18 season. meanwhile Cholowski will be a sophomore in college with 2 years to go.

Even IF we drafted Jones or Chychrun (lets focus on Chychrun), you really think the RED WINGS would have let them join the NHL next year? They forced themselves with Larkin because Datsyuk was leaving and thankfully it worked out because Larkin ended up being really good. Larkin is a once in a blue moon situation. 

 

You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Don't kid yourself thinking that the number 16th pick would have been in a Red Wings jersey next year lol. We all know he would have been in GR. Most teams would have probably started Svechnikov this year but the Red Wings are likely to keep him down in GR for the next two years. And he's not even a defenseman (who typically take longer to develop)

 

If Cholowski does really well in college hockey he could end up here sooner rather than later. College programs are really good development processes anyways.

 

Like it or not, the Red Wings defense prospect pool just got thicker. It's been their goal all year heading into the draft and they weren't going to change that. They also addressed a secondary need by signing a bigger players. 




#2679435 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by kipwinger on Yesterday, 11:02 AM

Givani Smith certainly would not have been available in the 5th-7th rounds... I really like that pick a lot.

 

I know right.  People around here ***** and moan for YEARS about how we never draft any tough, gritty, abrasive forwards.  So we draft an 18 year old who's 6'2, 200+ lbs., leads his league in penalty minutes, and is big and tough. 

 

What do people do?

 

***** and moan. 




#2679417 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on Yesterday, 10:47 AM

Hahaha who the hell is saying they know better than Holland and co. about any of these picks?


Read the thread. Lots of complaints because he didn't pick who the "experts" wanted. Same as last year.


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#2679388 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on Yesterday, 09:52 AM

I can't wait to come back to this thread in 6-7 years when one of these guys turns out to be a draft steal. The Wings are know what they are doing when it comes to drafting. Have a little faith.


#2679241 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 24 June 2016 - 09:28 PM

From Nick Cotsonika:

 

Vitale is injured. If the Red Wings put him on LTIR, they save his cap charge and save all $7.5M of Datsyuk's cap charge.




#2679254 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 24 June 2016 - 09:49 PM

Holland is sounding cocky. He better be sure he's getting Stamkos.

It's not all about Stamkos though.

 

There's Okposo, Eriksson, Ladd, Backes, Lucic, Radulov etc. 




#2679243 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 24 June 2016 - 09:30 PM

@tkulfan: Holland said he'll focus on replacing Datsyuk in free agency....what does he want to do with this newly created cap space? "Spend it"

We shall see...

@Buccigross:Steve Yzerman basically told @KathrynTappen: "we made our best offer to Stamkos. Take it or leave it."


#2678947 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by HockeytownRules19 on 24 June 2016 - 07:05 PM

Bummer no Jimmy to Calgary

 

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 49s49 seconds ago

Looks like Elliott to Flames. Awaiting announcement.




#2669666 ECQF Game 2 Post-GDT: at Tampa Bay 5, Red Wings 2

Posted by marcaractac on 15 April 2016 - 09:25 PM

mrazek, smith, mantha.




#2616857 2015 Draft

Posted by rick zombo on 27 June 2015 - 12:45 AM

So I must really be missing something. Svechnikov is an awesome pick at 19th overall. Big. Raw. Fast. Elite skill. And a great demeanour (watch some interviews). There should be way more partying going on here.


#2577925 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by GoWings1905 on 03 March 2015 - 11:20 AM

It's really this simple. Why is this so hard to see?

 

Because people see 36-years-old and automatically jump to the "typical Holland" conclusion. Which obviously was true for awhile, but this team isn't a bunch of dudes approaching retirement anymore. Two things I love about the Cole move especially: he adds size/physicality and he skates well, which doesn't negate the Wings biggest strength at forward. If Cole was 36 and slow, I wouldn't be as thrilled. 

 

Holland had his best deadline/July 1st moment in years. He definitely deserves a ton of praise for making the Red Wings better for the playoffs, while not sacrificing any of their major pieces of the future. 




#2533302 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by nawein on 29 July 2014 - 02:36 PM

This is an ok deal by Holland. I would have preferred a slightly lower payment, or even better (and more realistic), locking him in for 5 years. 
 
But no, KH is going to write up this contract to expire at the exact time RFA rights expire. OK  :lol:


He has 1 year of RFA after this contract. Which couldn't be better honestly.


#2531690 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by Euro_Twins on 11 July 2014 - 08:20 PM

Why not? Better than fools like Del Zotto or Green...
 
Give Buffalo what they want. They have no interest in Franzen or Weiss. Kenny can find other solutions for those two. Buffalo wants established Wingers with potential or high end offensive prospects. Myers is worth it. He can play a lot better than he actually is. Hard to develop for a young defenseman in this environment...
Detroit is no longer a top address for FA's and we're far away from being a contender. Time to react, even if we suck for one or two seasons. Pav and Z won't play forever...
 
 
- Trade Ericsson away...i have no idea what we'd get for him, but I don't think a 2nd Rounder is too much.
- Use the 2nd Rounder and add Tatar, Nyquist and Ferraro to get Myers
- As we now need Wingers, get Troy Brouwer and send Weiss back to Washington. Troy isn't the greatest fan of Coach Oates plus they have too many RW's and need Centers
- Add some more talent and bring in Evander Kane by flipping over Smith, Franzen, Andersson, McCollum and a future 2nd Rounder
- If Alfredsson returns - fine. Otherwise, sign Stempniak as a depth forward.
- Give our youth a chance. Even if we suck...as wrote before, I don't care. We need to do something...
 
 
 
FORWARDS
Tomas Jurco ($0.709m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Troy Brouwer ($3.667m)
Evander Kane ($5.250m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Anthony Mantha ($0.894m)
Teemu Pulkkinen ($0.698m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Lee Stempniak ($2.500m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.950m) / Danny Cleary ($1.500m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Luke Glendening ($0.628m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Tyler Myers ($5.500m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.500m) / Brian Lashoff ($0.725m)
Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) / Alexei Marchenko ($0.667m)
Kyle Quincey ($4.250m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.850m)
BUYOUTS
Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$3,017,500
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,605,833; BONUSES: $1,542,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,394,167


So you'd trade one of our young high end forwards for a project dman, but not for one whose scored 70 points twice 56 points and 30 goals before ? Seems logical


#2530534 MDZ close to signing with wings?

Posted by jthiel86 on 08 July 2014 - 12:20 AM

If MDZ's ceiling is as high as Smith's I wouldn't be opposed. Pair him with DK and put Q on the 3rd with E. Q and E would be a nasty 3rd pair.




#2528013 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 01 July 2014 - 12:45 PM

As per @GMillerTSN , 3 years x $6.5 M AAV for Vanek with Minnesota

 

 

This removes Min from the Niskanen sweepstakes no?