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#2679388 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 25 June 2016 - 09:52 AM

I can't wait to come back to this thread in 6-7 years when one of these guys turns out to be a draft steal. The Wings are know what they are doing when it comes to drafting. Have a little faith.

#2679241 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 24 June 2016 - 09:28 PM

From Nick Cotsonika:


Vitale is injured. If the Red Wings put him on LTIR, they save his cap charge and save all $7.5M of Datsyuk's cap charge.

#2679254 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 24 June 2016 - 09:49 PM

Holland is sounding cocky. He better be sure he's getting Stamkos.

It's not all about Stamkos though.


There's Okposo, Eriksson, Ladd, Backes, Lucic, Radulov etc. 

#2679243 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 24 June 2016 - 09:30 PM

@tkulfan: Holland said he'll focus on replacing Datsyuk in free agency....what does he want to do with this newly created cap space? "Spend it"

We shall see...

@Buccigross:Steve Yzerman basically told @KathrynTappen: "we made our best offer to Stamkos. Take it or leave it."

#2678947 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by HockeytownRules19 on 24 June 2016 - 07:05 PM

Bummer no Jimmy to Calgary


Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 49s49 seconds ago

Looks like Elliott to Flames. Awaiting announcement.

#2669666 ECQF Game 2 Post-GDT: at Tampa Bay 5, Red Wings 2

Posted by marcaractac on 15 April 2016 - 09:25 PM

mrazek, smith, mantha.

#2616857 2015 Draft

Posted by rick zombo on 27 June 2015 - 12:45 AM

So I must really be missing something. Svechnikov is an awesome pick at 19th overall. Big. Raw. Fast. Elite skill. And a great demeanour (watch some interviews). There should be way more partying going on here.

#2577925 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by GoWings1905 on 03 March 2015 - 11:20 AM

It's really this simple. Why is this so hard to see?


Because people see 36-years-old and automatically jump to the "typical Holland" conclusion. Which obviously was true for awhile, but this team isn't a bunch of dudes approaching retirement anymore. Two things I love about the Cole move especially: he adds size/physicality and he skates well, which doesn't negate the Wings biggest strength at forward. If Cole was 36 and slow, I wouldn't be as thrilled. 


Holland had his best deadline/July 1st moment in years. He definitely deserves a ton of praise for making the Red Wings better for the playoffs, while not sacrificing any of their major pieces of the future. 

#2533302 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by nawein on 29 July 2014 - 02:36 PM

This is an ok deal by Holland. I would have preferred a slightly lower payment, or even better (and more realistic), locking him in for 5 years. 
But no, KH is going to write up this contract to expire at the exact time RFA rights expire. OK  :lol:

He has 1 year of RFA after this contract. Which couldn't be better honestly.

#2531690 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by Euro_Twins on 11 July 2014 - 08:20 PM

Why not? Better than fools like Del Zotto or Green...
Give Buffalo what they want. They have no interest in Franzen or Weiss. Kenny can find other solutions for those two. Buffalo wants established Wingers with potential or high end offensive prospects. Myers is worth it. He can play a lot better than he actually is. Hard to develop for a young defenseman in this environment...
Detroit is no longer a top address for FA's and we're far away from being a contender. Time to react, even if we suck for one or two seasons. Pav and Z won't play forever...
- Trade Ericsson away...i have no idea what we'd get for him, but I don't think a 2nd Rounder is too much.
- Use the 2nd Rounder and add Tatar, Nyquist and Ferraro to get Myers
- As we now need Wingers, get Troy Brouwer and send Weiss back to Washington. Troy isn't the greatest fan of Coach Oates plus they have too many RW's and need Centers
- Add some more talent and bring in Evander Kane by flipping over Smith, Franzen, Andersson, McCollum and a future 2nd Rounder
- If Alfredsson returns - fine. Otherwise, sign Stempniak as a depth forward.
- Give our youth a chance. Even if we suck...as wrote before, I don't care. We need to do something...
Tomas Jurco ($0.709m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Troy Brouwer ($3.667m)
Evander Kane ($5.250m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Anthony Mantha ($0.894m)
Teemu Pulkkinen ($0.698m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Lee Stempniak ($2.500m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.950m) / Danny Cleary ($1.500m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Luke Glendening ($0.628m) /
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Tyler Myers ($5.500m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.500m) / Brian Lashoff ($0.725m)
Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) / Alexei Marchenko ($0.667m)
Kyle Quincey ($4.250m) /
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.850m)
Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,605,833; BONUSES: $1,542,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,394,167

So you'd trade one of our young high end forwards for a project dman, but not for one whose scored 70 points twice 56 points and 30 goals before ? Seems logical

#2530534 MDZ close to signing with wings?

Posted by jthiel86 on 08 July 2014 - 12:20 AM

If MDZ's ceiling is as high as Smith's I wouldn't be opposed. Pair him with DK and put Q on the 3rd with E. Q and E would be a nasty 3rd pair.

#2528013 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 01 July 2014 - 12:45 PM

As per @GMillerTSN , 3 years x $6.5 M AAV for Vanek with Minnesota



This removes Min from the Niskanen sweepstakes no? 

#2527502 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 01 July 2014 - 12:37 AM

Yeah, I don't mind Boyle as much as others, but I think I might like the idea of Niskanen and Stralman better...  but that would end up screwing our youth just a tad unless we move someone in the near future...

I prefer Boyle and Niskanen for that reason. Boyle can be gone in two years and make room for whoever excels most out of our defensive prospects. I know a lot of people on here think all of them are going to turn into NHL defensemen but the reality is we will be lucky to get one great one out of the bunch. That gives us Niskanen at least long term.

#2526574 NHL Draft 2014: Rounds 2-7 **MOD WARNING POST 51**

Posted by Richdg on 28 June 2014 - 11:30 AM

This is/was a bad prospect pool and everyone knew this going in. It is not a good draft at all. last year was great, next year is good. This year is below average. That is not on Holland. he took a very good player at 15 that should end up somewhere between Legwand and kesler. Legwand is 6-2/205 and scores 15 g 40 points per year. Kesler is 6-2/205 and puts up 25 g and 60 points per year. larkin will be in that range somewhere.

#2526573 NHL Draft 2014: Rounds 2-7 **MOD WARNING POST 51**

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 28 June 2014 - 11:29 AM

Holland failing to make room for improvements on the NHL roster. Still have too many forwards, s***ty D. No room for UFA's. Failing to trade Kindl, Andersson. He will just kick tires for the rest of his career. He absolutely disappointed Red Wings Nation again thus far. Sure his drafts were solid, but Detroit as a NHL team still sucks. Get ready for Q and Alfie to come back when no UFA of any value wants to come here after Holland, once again, fails to make his team a more attractive place to play. Pathetic. " But, but, were Detroit, everyone wants to play here...for pennies. "


You mean you and you alone? 


Actually I'm quite content with what's happened the last little while. We've drafted thus far, 3 guys at centre all with decent size, speed and two way ability. It looks like from all intensive purposes that KH will address a few needs over the offseason judging from what he, Babs and various other members of the organisation have said. 


And you know what, if all we end up with is signing Tom Gilbert and Alfie comes back, I would be perfectly happy with that. Because I believe we've got a great mix of veterans and youth that is about to take a huge step forward, and there's more help coming in the form of Mantha, Sproul, Ouellet, Marchenko, Mrazek and co which will make us one of the best young teams next year or the year after for quite some time. If you, and all of the other KH bashers are so gasping for us to trade away all our young assets so just to acquire a couple of guys who will make you feel better immediately, then why don't you contact the Red Wings personally? 


If you and a few others can't see the transformation and the long term plan that KH has in mind here like some of us can, then fair enough. But don't keep bashing the same old drum over and over again because you're not happy about what's happening. It's getting kinda tiring.