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#2196233 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 04 July 2011 - 05:38 PM

Konopka still available. Big Mac still available.

Just an update.

If the Wings weren't so jam packed with forwards I'd be calling for a Konopka signing as well. Unfortunately the Wings have too many forwards to justify adding another bottom six guy, no matter how bad ass he is. :(

Thank God we got our third/fourth stringer RFA locked up until 2013.

There are bigger fish to fry in the goaltending department.

Errrr.... I assume you didn't watch many Grand Rapids games last year. Pierce outplayed our 1st round pick in goal last season (scary no matter how you look at it). Re-signing him was important for the team in GR. I'm sure Holland is more than competent enough to simultaneously negotiate with multiple players.

#2196399 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by mjlegend on 05 July 2011 - 09:55 AM

Errrr.... I assume you didn't watch many Grand Rapids games last year. Pierce outplayed our 1st round pick in goal last season (scary no matter how you look at it). Re-signing him was important for the team in GR. I'm sure Holland is more than competent enough to simultaneously negotiate with multiple players.

Is this why we've signed two mid-rate UFAs and an RFA third/fourth string goaltender in the first four days of free agency?

You're right, though, it is important to get depth within the organization. That's why it's good that there are only six or seven contracts left the Wings can actually sign players to - it means you don't have many contracts like Pearce's distracting from the pursuit of excellence for the big club. If he spent more than 10 minutes on negotiating this contract in the last four days, I'd be disappointed.

But when the big club has some glaring holes at backup GA and a spot for a top-six forward (when Hudler is pushed off a cliff), it's probably a good idea to focus 100 per cent on that first.

#2196194 Red Wings trying to move Jiri Hudler

Posted by zombi on 04 July 2011 - 03:11 PM

I'm really not comfortable trading away our top prospect.

#2195678 Wings sign D Ian White to 2-year, $5.75m contract

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 03 July 2011 - 02:04 AM

We have Bobby Orr. His name is Nick Lidstrom

Nicky, Kron and Stewie need some real pairings.

Kindl is a solid bottom pairing and could be a 2nd pairing in an emergency.

Merzzy is a bottom pairing but we could run him a full season and be happy.

As far as Erhoff is concerned, I never wanted him.

As far as the bad blood goes with Wiz, every man hs his price and his snub sounded to me like he was offered a joke of a contract. Conjecture about his family being let go with a pink slip stapled to his last check is one thing but hockey players first need a job and second want to win at their present job. He knew he had a good chance to win here but also knew that hes a pro hockey player that deserves a good paycheck.

Nobody even talks about trading with other teams just FAs. We have a deep list of forwards that are definitely worth something to another team. Not just the starters but our GR guys as well. Culling the herd and grabbing up a signed player or two isnt that bad of an idea.

Holland reminds me of my dad, stuck in a certain decade and stuck in his routine. Thats when you know you need to retire and let the kids play without you.

White is an affordable guy but he is doing nothing for our team to replace Raffy. Ericcson is definitely not replacing Raffy even if he gets his spot on the rotation. We are grabbing up a lot of bottom or third pairing players, no one that is a starter or someone that will fill anyones shoes as Nick retires and other guys move up to newer spots.

So Ill say it again Holland is a carp. Hes bottom feeding all the leftover Dmen. Its a waste of money and makes me question how well our D is going to be.

We woulda won the cup last year if we had healthy Dmen. The injuries to our Forwards could have ben dealt with but we had too many GA due to shoddy D which was a result of injuries and sub par replacements.

Im expecting similar results this season, I hope I wrong.

#2195101 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 02 July 2011 - 10:31 AM

His exact words were, "if we don't find another top 4 defenseman, Ericsson will fill that role".

Read the article again. It's a definite possibility.


As in "If we don't find another top 4 defenseman, Ericsson will fill that role..." AS A TOP FOUR DEFENSEMAN.

AS IN #4. That does not equal "Ericsson will fill Rafalski's role."

He is not saying Ericsson will fill Rafalski's role. He doesn't even come close to saying that. You guys are making a massive assumption.

#2194934 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 02 July 2011 - 12:04 AM

This is directly from our GM and Coach. See, we are looking for a top 4 d-man still, so everyone can stop freaking out and assume that we are sitting on our hands or that Commy was the only intended Defensive move. I'm confident Holland will do everything in his power to bring in a top 4 that MAKES SENSE. If Ericsson is it, than there will be a lot of pressure on him to perform and step up. Holland is right about the going rate and that Ericsson could have probably gotten somewhat more on the bloated market. Dallas really wanted him, I remember reading.

If this is it for our Defense, than we'll have some options next off-season or at the trade deadline perhaps.

Yandle please!

#2194928 Just Read This

Posted by stevkrause on 01 July 2011 - 11:59 PM


False alarm: just LGW at FA day, the trade deadline, draft, or after any 2+ game losing streak...

#2194920 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 01 July 2011 - 11:50 PM

Pyett still has a year of AHL eligibility that he'll certainly use.

And an NTC is worthless in the waive and stash in the AHL era. The Campbell trade to Florida also showed us just how worthless an NTC is. What was the spacing between the time we heard he rejected a move and the time we heard he went to Florida? Couldn't have been much longer than a couple of weeks. An NTC is only really an issue with guys like Heatly who you can't waive due to their obvious trade value. If Ericsson plays his way out of Detroit there won't be a bunch of trade offers for him-- he'll be waived and stashed in the AHL if no one will take him.

If only we had cap space.

And nearly 100 days until opening night. :( WE'RE DOOMED!

#2194711 Wings sign D Mike Commodore to 1-year, $1m contract

Posted by Carman on 01 July 2011 - 06:51 PM

I hate this signing because hes cheap and was a healthy scratch on a Columbus team that was horrible defensively last year. Also it doesn't address any of Detroit biggest needs, like a consistent RW/LW, or the 50 points the Wings lost with Rafi.

1). Columbus was a mess, and his salary was higher than his ability and he struggled with that. He was a scape-goat for a horrible defense and was frusterated. He'll be much better in a 5/6/7th role.
2). He was the #3 d-man during Carolina's cup run, including >3min/game shorthanded toi
3). He's big.
4). We've been very successful on reclamation projects in the past, Commodore's potential is high he just needs the tools to get there again.

I don't see any negatives with this move.

#2193083 Holland Appreciation Thread

Posted by gcom007 on 30 June 2011 - 11:31 PM

It's not the years that everyone is pissed about. We knew it'd be for more than one season.

It's the money. If anyone predicted the price 24 hours ago, they'd be laughed off of LGW.

Over the last few days I had resigned myself to the idea of Ericsson making $2 million a year. I figured the way this off-season has gone, Holland would have to give a bit more to keep him.

$2 million.

That was a painful idea. This is Mr. Giveaway we're talking about here. He's another sloppy season away from Lebda territory.

It'll only be worse now with this contract. That $3.25 million puts a huge target on his back for critics, as if he needed it. He's been a lightning rod for more often than not deserved criticism for more than a little while now. I mean, thus far, the guy peaked before he was ever a regular! He's never been even close to solid as a regular for any significant span of time. Sure, he could get better, but the way he's played so far had me wholly content to let him walk if he expected a payday. No problem. Let someone else take that chance; he hasn't earned it in Detroit.

I just don't even know...

Without question, this is the worst signing Holland has made as a GM. I didn't like Flip's old deal much but it honestly looks outstanding compared to this malarky.

$3.25 million for a 5th defenseman who's most notable skill has been a knack for bonehead plays in our zone.

Again, I say, what kind of crazy f***ed up world do we live in where Jonathon Ericsson is worth $3.25 million a year?

#2193076 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by Guest on 30 June 2011 - 11:26 PM

I fail to see how anyone can call this deal "bad" at this particular moment. It's not hurting anything. Red Wings have plenty of cap space to afford it, and lots of $$ cash left to improve the team. (No Kenny isn't getting Richards, never was)

How do we know what went on behind the scenes? It sounds like Holland wanted Ericsson for about $1.8 to $2.0 million. Ericsson is in the press speaking how he wants the chance to advance to the next level. Ericsson know's he'd easily get $3.75+ or more tomorrow. So really he took a discount.

Knowing this, Holland probably said:
"Okay, $3.25 then, but if you don't progress, I am packaging you up and trading you! - Ericsson, do you understand that I will trade you if you do not meet my expectations, right?"

Ericsson - "Yes Mr. Holland, I understand!"

[worse case scenario, seven months later Ericsson has not improved, Holland trades him with a pick/prospect for a nice return]

In this market, Holland can get a nice return on Big Rig with this current contract. This is called "asset management". It might not look good right now, but I am sure Kenny has a plan.

#2190118 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by dirtydangles on 26 June 2011 - 05:31 PM

Me too.

#2190117 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by Guest on 26 June 2011 - 05:29 PM

Yes, and then we could offer up our next four first round draft picks in the process. No thanks.

No, he won't be pissed off if we don't get Doughty, because it will mean the team hasn't mortgaged its future for a D-man who suffered a major concussion last season.

Every time I see one of your posts I literally puke a little bit in my mouth.

#2188924 Changes in the offseason

Posted by Majsheppard on 24 June 2011 - 03:07 PM

It feels like, gut reaction... that VFil will get traded tonight along with Hudler for something. Just pure speculation on my part. It just feels like I think Holland has a battle plan.

I think it going hard after three pieces.

#2188928 Changes in the offseason

Posted by Rice on 24 June 2011 - 03:16 PM

I also have a feeling that Holland's going to swing a trade.