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#2324079 Red Wings Sign Jurco to Entry Level Contract

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 06 August 2012 - 09:48 PM

I would be giddy if he could somehow make the big squad this season.... Feeling like he could learn a ton from Datsyuk and those two would be awesome together. Not holding my breath, though.


#2323402 Sabres Re-sign Forward Kaleta to Multi-year Contract.

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 01 August 2012 - 12:32 PM

Bring on Regehr to Detroit... They have 8 or 9 d-men right now.


#2322621 Your thoughts on Sergei Fedorov

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 28 July 2012 - 08:53 AM

Absolutely not.... I don't think of Fedorov, when I am looking up at the following players' jerseys:

Yzerman, Sawchuk, Delvecchio, Lindsay, Abel, Howe.... and soon Lidstrom.

He doesn't fit with that group of esteemed players. If he had stayed with the club and finished his career out with some sort of respect and dignity, then possibly then he would be considered, but he ended up leaving for money.

As far as Dats and Z go.... they still have several years until they retire, so the jury is still out, but if they continue on the path they have already set, I would say there is a 60/40 chance.


#2321472 Bobby Ryan

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 24 July 2012 - 12:04 PM

I keep hearing that Anaheim loves Flip... is this true or not? If that's the case, I say you package a deal to them that includes Filppula, Tatar, and a 1st rounder....


#2321125 Holland losing his moxie? Is Detroit slipping as UFA destination?

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 23 July 2012 - 10:32 AM

How many of these nonsense threads are people going to start until we get it through their thick skulls that the simple answer to these silly, panicky questions is NO!


#2319693 Should Pav and Z play on the same line for the majority of this season

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 18 July 2012 - 08:30 AM

Orrrrr you get really crazy and give Flip an opportunity to grow even more by having him center the first line with Datsyuk and Z can center the second line...

Franzen-Filppula-Datsyuk
Nyquist-Zetterberg-Brunner/Samuelsson

Z could be a great mentor to Nyquist and/or Brunner


#2318529 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 12 July 2012 - 09:33 AM

"One day, we might be able to bring a player of significance here."

Erm...we have 16 million in cap space. We're a legendary team. We should be able to bring a player of significance here this summer, not in the distant future.

I really wish he wouldn't say he's content with our roster up front. Yeah, it's servicable, no worse than last year, but last year wasn't good enough. I guess I can see him waiting to see if Brunner will make an impact, but that's risky.

But he seems to forget that Quincey did play last year. So we've only added Smith, a rookie, to replace Stuart and Lidstrom.


Who is your player of significance? Semin and Doan are the only two big names left and it seems like Detroit is not the only team wary of Semin's questionable work ethic and moodiness, otherwise he would have been signed by now by someone. We are looking at Doan and his agent has said that he would be interested if the Phoenix situation is unresolved come July 16...

What is he supposed to say? "We don't like our roster up-front." No, you don't say that as a GM. He added some pieces, replaced Hudler, and gave us some bottom 6 depth. We have too many forwards so there may be a trade upcoming for defense, but we'll see. He's not done yet and there is a long way to go before the season starts.


#2318519 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 12 July 2012 - 09:16 AM

Uh, no, that's not what he said. He never said "fill", he specifically said "replace", as in these guys will replace Stuart and Lidstrom. Not sure how you can read it any other way...




How exactly are we risking our money if it's not being allocated to anything else...? If it's essentially, just sitting there? Don't risk some money on a previous 40 goal scorer for a team in need of scoring depth? Just don't understand your argument...

And then you say we WILL make the playoffs and WILL compete? You come to that consensus based on......what exactly? Do you not realize this is now a team MUCH weaker than the one that was first to get eliminated and won a single game last season? And yet, somehow, you think with a weaker roster we'll somehow do.....better?


Am i missing something here? I just dont understand the logic!


Seriously.... I even posted the quote. How is it that you are the ONLY one reading it that way then? Is it because you are being over-critical, possibly even negative about an off-season when it's only July 12 and there are zero quality UFA's to be had, aside from Semin and Doan (and they want Doan).

There is no way to replace Lidstrom.... and losing him is how we got weaker. Our offense is stronger than last season, and deeper. We may not have acquired a sniper, but Brunner may turn out, I'm willing to wait and see before I write him off like so many doom and gloomers around here. Our defense is younger, much younger. Which I believe is a good thing, because they're hungry, and motivated and want to win. Only Kronwall has tasted the cup and he's their leader as of right now. Seems pretty good to me. I never said they're stronger than last season, but they are younger overall, and with so many negative people out there, maybe it's a good motivation to show fans that they can do well and compete.

They will spend more cap on defensive needs, possibly a forward like Semin or Doan if they can come to an agreement, but to just burn our money by grabbing average players that don't add anything to the team is asinine. It's also asinine to assume we know what is really going on behind the curtain.

You don't burn cap because the trade deadline could come in handy for the Wings this season, and trading for a big name player who makes more money means you had better have a little cap space, if the opportunity presents itself. Also saving that cap space could be fruitful come next off-season, when Perry, Getzlaf, Iginla, etc... could all be available.


#2318509 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 12 July 2012 - 08:57 AM

Well, it is tough to face the fact that we are not a contender.... I took it for granted for 19 years that I followed the Red Wings. Any advices?


You cannot say that anymore.... LA was an 8 seed last season and no one thought they'd make it anywhere... NJ was, what? a 6 seed? That was your Final this past season.... low seeded teams that no one would have ever predicted being there. We are a contender, plain and simple.

And yet in the past four years we have made it to the finals, and never missed the playoffs. I believe Holland is thinking long term - by not overpaying in FA he is ensuring he can put a competitive playoff team on the ice year after year. As we seen with LA... adding a key piece at the end of the season (or any number of other factors) can propel a team to the cup... so long as they make the playoffs of course. Yandle / Ryan / Nash are likely too expensive in trade assets - and he's not going to give the farm. We know Holland has made an offer for Nash, and may have for Yandle and Ryan for all we know. Now sure what you want him to do right now, besides overpay in trade assets.


Thank you sir, for your comments are sane and level-headed. It's nice to know that I am not alone.


#2318501 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 12 July 2012 - 08:47 AM

Disappointing to say the least. Here's some highlights from a couple morning articles. Don't expect any new Red Wings anytime soon folks!

http://www.detroitne...207120392/1128/

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Basically, SOMEDAY we'll get a good player.....

Detroit Red Wings, your 2015 Stanley Cup Champions!!

http://www.mlive.com...holland_st.html

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Yes Holland, you're right. It's not like we have any kind of scoring problem and desperately need a top 6 forward, despite the fact that we scored an average of 1.8 goals per game during the playoffs AND our own coach said we lost due to weakness in scoring potential for our 2nd and 3rd lines. Sure Holland, all is fine.

And yeah, saying Smith and Quincey will replace Lidstrom and Stuart, respectively, is in it's own level of idiocy alone.



Enjoy your summer folks.


Good God, that is not what he even said.... Stop twisting things to make it sound the way you want it to. He said they have guys that can fill in, so it's not like they are down to 4 defensemen.

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Obviously, with the loss of (Brad) Stuart, the loss of (Nick) Lidstrom, we're not as deep as we've been in the past in defense. Two players that are going to replace him that weren't here (last year) are Brendan Smith and (Kyle) Quincey, so it's not like we've lost two guys and don't have any players."



Please don't just make everything fit your doom and gloom attitude...



Look, Holland is being smart here. He tried his best to get both Parise and Suter, but in the end they wanted to be close to their families, which Michigan cannot provide. After those two, the free-agent pool drops off considerably. We have money and we have needs, but is it smart to utilize that money in a poor free agent market in attempt to fill your needs with average players, or would it be better to put a bandage on all the wounds for now and wait until next year when more high profile players will be free to sign wherever they like? Trades are always an option too, but when you need someone to replace Lidstrom, or some top-six sniper (in a dry free agent year no less), prices are going to be high. Holland admitted he wants at least another player before he's comfortable with the team, but it's goIng to be a bandage, not a permanent fix to our roster issues. This year can't provide us with a permanent fix. That's just the reality of it. Better luck next year.


Oh thank you for some sane voices on LGW.... I swear the level of doom and gloom is off the charts. People are acting like the Wings are now Calgary or something.... not even close!

Sorry, but conceding another hockey season (Babs didn't think his roster last year was going to be able to compete) won't fly in this town. Not signing one of the top 5 talents in the league because "we don't like what we hear about him" is ok if your team already has a sniper or two. Well, we don't.

I understand being smart with your money, but when you straight up DON'T SPEND money you have, you are more or less throwing it away. We had $5 million in cap space last year that we didn't spend. Essentially, the Detroit Red Wings cap sat $5 million lower than the NHL cap. That makes no sense to me....


Yeah, risk bringing in a guy who has, by all accounts, a horrible attitude and questionable worth ethic. Risk that because it's not your money, so let's just go on a spending frenzy and grab all the average players we can. Holland is smart not to blow everything up by spending like a 16 year old girl the weekend before Prom. Get a grip people, the sky is not falling. The team, as is, will make the playoffs and will compete.

Remember when everyone wrote Datsyuk off as a non-playoff contributor? How did that turn out?


#2318432 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 11 July 2012 - 11:15 PM

So does this mean EVERYONE has been overpriced for years now and that's why Kenny hasn't brought in anyone worth mentioning? EVERYONE? Come now... (and your housing analogy sux).

esteef


You didn't answer the question. And Ian White is not another tire patch... ridiculous.


#2318237 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 11 July 2012 - 12:20 PM

I agree that Kronner will have a career year as well Smith. I also feel that Quincey will have a much better year and look more like the Quincey of LA/Colorado point-wise. I'm thinking 30-40 pts for Quincey. He'll be playing on the 2nd power play unit, maybe even the 1st from time to time.


#2318225 PK Subban for Flippula and Tatar?

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 11 July 2012 - 12:04 PM

Howard is nowhere near Quick :tounge:

He also has a tendency to seem to get worse in the playoffs while Quick is a playoff monster...


You are basing this on one playoff run, from this past season. Yes, he was phenomenal, but have you seen his stats the previous playoff runs that LA has had?

2010/11 : 2 Wins 4 Losses 3.16 GAA .913 SV%
2009/10 : 2 Wins 4 Losses 3.50 GAA .884 SV%

I am not saying Quick isn't a solid goaltender, he is, but to say Howard cannot play as well as Quick had this past post-season is a tad ridiculous. Before Howard was injured in the reg season, he was on track to be, at least, a Vezina nominee.... I don't think we've seen the true measure of how well Howard can play in the post-season yet, just as prior to this season, the same could have been said for Quick.


#2318161 Smith Leads Charge

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 11 July 2012 - 10:43 AM

I just feel that Smith is going to have a Calder-worthy season. He is very good and there is plenty of opportunity for him to succeed and grow. My prediction is he pots 43 pts. Color me overly-positive, but that is what I believe.


#2317748 The Next Move

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 10 July 2012 - 02:07 PM

I still don't understand the severity of people's fear for the upcoming season, given the roster we have now. We have plenty of depth up front and I'd be surprised if we don't at least trade some players for picks, but more than likely for a defenseman. I don't see our defense as being as bad as some crazies think it is. Is it going to take a hit? Yes, of course, but sometimes you need to have a little adversity to become a stronger team in the end, and that is what I believe you'll see with our present roster. Our offense is just as good as last year and I believe will contend for top 3 this season. We added some snarl and will have a little more grit to our game. Having a healthy Helm back is huge, as is Eaves (if he doesn't get traded for another asset).

I just think there is a lot of fear that is misappropriated. We tried hard to get the top players this offseason, and it just didn't end up that way, but that is no reason to freak out or start calling for Holland's head. I'm sure he's still working the phones.

Simmer down everyone!