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#2317347 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 09 July 2012 - 02:18 PM

Sammy's point totals since his first arrival in Detroit were:
45pts/71gms-DET - .63 ppg
34pts/53gms-DET - .64 ppg
40pts/73gms-DET - .55 ppg
53pts/74gms-VAN - .72 ppg
50pts/70gms-VAN - .71 ppg
31pts/54gms-VAN/FLA - .57 ppg

If we have Sammy putting up an average of .60 ppg and playing a far superior 2-way game to Hudler and getting 5-10 less points I'd take him any day of the week. Add Tootoo who had 30 points in 77 games getting garbage ice time on a team that sucks offensively at .38 ppg, i'd love that on the 3rd/4th lines along with the grit and intensity he brings. Right there along with Brunner, our 2nd-4th lines have been upgraded. The only thing we didn't get was an elite offensive talent, but we didn't lose that either and what left, has been replaced. The biggest blow is that we lost Lidstrom and since then it's been all doom and gloom here.

No matter what Kenny does this offseason, we still don't have Lidstrom to run the blue line, or Stuart to block shots more than anyone else and throw hits.

I can't wait for the season to start and for Nyquist and Brunner to start lighting the lamp and for Smith to be over .5 ppg in the top 4 instead of on the 3rd D pairing and making us forget that we lost Stuart to the Sharts. If the season started tomorrow, and assuming Quincey is in the starting lineup, I'd be fine with what we have right now. I'd like to add Vandermeer or Jurcina, but if our lineup looked like the folliwing when the puck dropped on the start of the season i'd be ok with it:

Mule-Dats-Nyquist
Brunner-Z-Flip
Sammy-Helm-Bert
Cleary-Abby-Tootoo
Mursak/Miller

Kronwall-Smith
Quincey-White
Ericsson-Kindl


Howard/Monster

I like that there's a lot of potential for a lot of guys to step up, and that the team is actually getting younger despite Z and Dats getting older.


Brunner looked pretty good playing on a heavy underdog Switzerland team at the world championships putitng up a point per game.


I think leaving Eaves out of the lineup is a mistake.... he was hurt last season so many people seem to forget that we have him. He has a good speed, great defensive abilities, and can also pot us 15-20 goals with relatively low ice time. I strongly believe Eaves is going to get a better look at things this season and be consistently in the lineup.... Oh, and he's a right handed shot.


#2317283 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 09 July 2012 - 10:56 AM

Wasn't today the day (MON, 7/9) that Doan was supposed to start entertaining offers?


Yes, and his agent has opened up the bidding... He still may stay in Phoenix. Sounds like it may drag out, possibly.

Hopefully what Khan says about his agent contacting us several times prior to now means that Doan is seriously considering us as his destination after Phoenix... Makes sense since we beat down on Phx consistently in the playoffs and Doan has lived with that, why not go to that team that you could never beat in the playoffs?

I hope he comes here and finishes out his career. He'll look good on Datsyuk's or Zetterberg's wing.


#2315638 Jonathan Ericsson. Knock, knock...

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 05 July 2012 - 11:18 AM

Ericsson gets it bad from Wings' fans.... I believe mostly because he set such lofty expectations after he burst out in the 08/09 playoffs and then fizzled the following season. The fact is, he has become a strong shut down penalty killer. It's hard to believe and I had to see the stats to really believe it myself, but when he got hurt last season, our PK suffered.... he returned and all of a sudden our PK got better. I don't believe he'll ever be valued higher than a 3/4 d-man, but I do believe he'll be a strong shut down defensemen with "some" offensive skill going forward. He just never had much of a chance. I say if we don't get any significant defensive help this offseason, we put Ericsson on the second PP and see what he can do. It can't hurt, and the opportunity is there.


#2314575 Ryan Suter agrees to 13-year, $98-mil deal with Wild

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 04 July 2012 - 11:54 AM

We still have 17 mil in cap space and we have a seriously weak team. I guess it's time to let the youngsters sink or swim. Bring up Nyquist, give more time to Mursak, maybe even bring up Tatar. Who knows, perhaps it could be a good thing.


Uhh... offense is not a problem, at this point. Defense is where we need to worry. We have, what? 15 forwards signed right now? So Mursak and Tatar probably won't see any ice time with the big club. More than likely, you'll see Tatar in a trade for something we need, defense.

Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Filppula, Samuelsson, Brunner, Bertuzzi, Cleary, Helm, Eaves, Tootoo, Miller, Emmerton, Mursak, Nyquist.... We'll probably shed Emmerton and Mursak in a trade of some sort. I say you trade Franzen and pieces for a need, sign Semin in Franzen's place...

Who knows..


#2312971 Jiri Hudler signs with Calgary, 4 years, $4m/year

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 02 July 2012 - 03:03 PM

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/

What a laughable ass headline that is.... hahaha


#2312876 Bobby Ryan

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 02 July 2012 - 01:05 PM

LOL!

So you expect us to give up table scraps for a perennial 30-40 goal scorer and Anaheim would just accept?

Try again.


Table scraps? Stop talking.


#2312825 Bobby Ryan

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 02 July 2012 - 12:12 PM

I would be surprised if Holland has not contacted Anaheim about Ryan.... with all the players being acquired yesterday, I have to believe a trade is a real possibility. If Kenny contacted Columbus on multiple occasions regarding Nash, then you can bet he has kicked the tires on Bobby Ryan.


#2312822 G Joey MacDonald asks for trade

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 02 July 2012 - 12:10 PM

Red Wings fans barely know what does it mean to play good as a goaltender. Look at Rinne, Lunquist, Quick, Brodear, well even Backstrom. Those G are playing good. Howard is playing satisfactory with some good games in-between. That's why Gus would be nice for us to have. At least, we''l have a chance to have a good G.

Howard, prior to hitting the injury bug around mid/late season, was being mentioned for the Vezina. His numbers were that good, and he had to start more games because our backup situation was not working out that well. Howard is just as good as every goalie you mentioned.

Islanders?


#2312715 Red Wings Sign Mikael Samuelsson to 2-yr, $6m deal (w/full NTC)

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 02 July 2012 - 10:36 AM

Why must we be so old every friggin' season? :unhappy:


Yes we are so old... that's right. We just retired a 39 year old and a 42 year old, but we're old as s***!

People just keep talking without realizing they are spewing garbage.

The Wings average age with all current roster players as of June 2nd, 2012 is 28.35 years.

Compare that to Pittsburgh... they come in at an average age of 29.32, even with their young stars.

If I missed anyone, it shouldn't have that huge of an effect on the calculations:

Detroit: Abdelkader, Bertuzzi, Brunner, Cleary, Datsyuk, Eaves, Emmerton, Ericsson, Filppula, Franzen, Gustavsson, Helm, Howard, Kindl, Kronwall, Miller, Nyquist, Quincey, Samuelsson, Smith, Tootoo, White, Zetterberg.

Pitt: Adams, Cooke, Crosby, Dupuis, Engelland, Fleury, Jeffrey, Johnson, Kennedy, Kunitz, Letang, Lovejoy, Malkin, Martin, Neal, Niskanen, Orpik, Park, Sullivan, Sutter, Vitale, Vokoun.


#2309981 Peter Mueller

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 26 June 2012 - 09:45 AM

I would take Mueller in a heartbeat.... The kid is very good, and highly skilled. He has just had bad luck with injuries, but he is still young and I'm sure we could pick him up without breaking the bank, obviously. Of course, I mean this as a move if we cannot obtain Parise, Semin, or Ryan via trade.


#2309042 2012 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 22 June 2012 - 09:24 PM

Bobby Ryan was a second overall pick. 4 straight 30 goal seasons. He is 25 years old. Do any of these prospects have that kind of a start in them? Or are we guessing? I don't like guessing. He is signed, we know his cap number, it's all right there. You know what you're getting, you know where to slot him, he can start Game One and finish Game 82 for the next 10 years if you want. That's what we need...in MY opinion. NHL stud talent, not maybes.


Yes, I completely agree with you, but it takes two teams to make a deal happen. If Anaheim doesn't like what pieces we have to offer, then no deal... and that is not a stretch to imagine that could be the case. You also don't know how serious they are about trading him. They could just be kicking the tires to see what's out there.


#2309033 2012 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 22 June 2012 - 09:16 PM

no doubt. teams need to get fleeced in trades for one to get better. its not often that a trade turns out AMAZING for both teams. dog eat dog. holland just refuses to play with the dogs.


Please just stop assuming things.... you're just coming off stupid. It takes two to tango, and If the Wings don't necessarily have the same pieces that other teams would offer, then no deal will get done. To think that Holland is not playing right now, is asinine. He enjoys his job, I'm sure he wants to keep it.

Chill!


#2308993 2012 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 22 June 2012 - 08:43 PM

What a classless bunch of dir-tards... Seriously Pen fans, boo at first, and then shut the hell up. We get it, they're your rival, but this isn't about the teams, it's about the young kids getting opportunities.

Lord, I hate Pittsburgh...


#2308754 Trade Ian White?

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 22 June 2012 - 12:21 PM

Why would we get rid of white again? I must of missed something...


Just speculation that we could get rid of White to guarantee Schultz a spot in the lineup.... silliness is all you're reading.


#2308743 Trade Ian White?

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 22 June 2012 - 12:03 PM

no way i know quincey has struggled but i think he'll have a bounce back year , i think hes a better defensemen overall i really cant see ian white coming back after the next season he just looked good cause of lidstrom

I would much rather guarantee schultz a spot on the team and put him with smith if it meant losing him to another team and getting rid of white to make it happen


It's just not going to happen. The Wings don't guarantee rosters spots, especially to someone who has never played a professional-level game.... It doesn't matter how good he's "projected" to be, it just won't happen. The kid is going to have to come here ready to battle for a spot, and if he is as good as people make him out to be, he'll be on the roster.

While I can see the value in trading White, I would only see him being traded in a multi-player deal for someone who improves the team. White is a solid d-man, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how well he does this upcoming season.

Same can be said for Quincey, I'm not as high on him, but I am willing to give him a shot and see how he performs with a full season and being used to his linemates and the Wings playing style. He showed he can play a pretty damn good game in LA and Colorado, so we'll see.

This is in no way to be taken as me saying we shouldn't take a run at Schultz... I think we'd be foolish not to, but there are 29 other teams doing the same and I'm sure many who will guarantee him a spot, regardless of whether we do or not.