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#2188704 Wild Firesale Could Mean Wings Benefit

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 24 June 2011 - 01:15 AM

Can someone please explain a trade to me between Detroit and Minny that Minny would find beneficial that includes Burns? I'm just having trouble seeing one.

I honestly believe you just do not want Burns on this team... so you don't even look at any options. Filppula, Kindl, and a pick. There.

#2188701 Hudler's Future

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 24 June 2011 - 01:08 AM

Why don't we try and figure out how Hudler works in this system instead of all these hypothetical trade situations? I think Hudler can work here but I'm not really sure how yet. If he doesn't than good riddance but the focus should be on player development from a team's perspective rather than just trying to trade everyone and honestly, this is an area that the Red Wings organization does very well at.

Except Hudler had all season and the playoffs to prove how he fits here. This team needs size, speed, and strength... three attributes that don't exactly describe Hudler. I seriously wish he could work here, but his defection to Russia, in my estimation, likely ruffled some feathers in the organization and a different player returned. Even before Russia, as good as he was, he was streaky at best.

If we can trade Hudler in a package to receive a top 4 d-man or a top 6 forward that better fits the direction the organization would like to take, then why wouldn't you do so? We have some good up and coming prospects and even freeing up a spot for Mursak to play more significant minutes could be beneficial.

#2188547 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 23 June 2011 - 06:16 PM

Everything i've read leads to Pittsburgh.

Wings: Likes our playing style better, says it fits him best.
We have the only offer to him and have let him know we're interested.
Lidstrom endorsed the concept of him coming here.
Babcock reached out to him.
Has the opportunity to play with Nick in his (most likely) final season
Would line up with Datsyuk and/or Zetterberg - which he has mentioned himself as exciting

Pens: Chance to go back to his NHL roots
Owns a home there still (was too lazy to sell it)
No offer yet, GM has decided to discuss the idea internally more before making a decision.
Crosby still has injury concerns
Malkin is coming off major knee surgery

He certainly has his options, but don't be surprised if he accepts Holland's offer before July 1st. Holland means business and has shown Jagr that the Wings feel he would be an asset here. I still say it's 70/30 odds for the Wings.

#2188535 Holy crap...

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 23 June 2011 - 05:59 PM

My first thought was who will be their 2nd line center as well, but then when I read somewhere Giroux would be slotted there, I remembered that he is a natural center. Looks like Voracek and Simmonds are RFA who need to be re-signed, but this might give them the flexibility to re-sing Leino.

Richards and Carter must have really been a problem in the dressing room. I'm not excited by the fact that the Western conference and Central division just got a lot stronger.

Well we can only hope that this sends a message to Holland to step it up. Be smart, but use the cap space you have and improve the team, defensively first, but don't ignore the offense. Bring on Brent Burns!

#2187460 James Wisniewski

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 21 June 2011 - 09:09 AM

Wiz staying in Montreal is quite possible - especially if the Habs let Markov walk.

If that happens, look for the Wings to take a chance on Markov for one season at least. If he stays healthy, it would payoff big time.

#2187452 Lidstrom agrees to 1-year, $6.2m contract

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 21 June 2011 - 08:59 AM


Just reading his posts makes my brain hurt. Does he actually think that swapping Franzen out for Cole would be better? Cole had 26 goals last season, Franzen had 28.

Over the two careers, Franzen has scored 121 goals in 395 games while Cole has 184 goals in 620 games... Do the math, one is better.

Furthermore, let's look at the playoffs for a complete b-slap to your face for suggesting the replacement:

Franzen - 83 games, 37 goals, 35 assists
Cole - 43 games, 6 goals, 8 assists

Eva, please stop talking!

#2187401 Hudler's Future

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 20 June 2011 - 11:54 PM

Hudler's future? On the back of a milk carton, right beside a picture of his offensive production.

#2187182 Lidstrom agrees to 1-year, $6.2m contract

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 20 June 2011 - 10:56 AM

Shouldn't we be happy that he returned instead of getting upset about what hes getting paid ? I mean if he doesn't re-sign then what ? imo, we're more f***ed.

The problem is that I don't think anyone on this topic here is getting upset about what he is paid. I brought up the idea that maybe he might take less, but I never infered that Holland would ask him to take less, nor did I post it in such a way that I thought he SHOULD take less. It was merely a what if... Again, I don't see anyone on here bickering or making a big deal about his pay.

I'm happy he is back.

#2187109 Lidstrom agrees to 1-year, $6.2m contract

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 20 June 2011 - 09:25 AM

By bickering, do you mean asking to be paid something that isn't an absolute insult to a player of his calibre?

So you're saying that 4.75 is an insult to a player of his calliber with incentives that would more than likely put it up to 6.2-6.5?


And where did this sense of bickering come in? I clearly stated that I had no problem either way, but I wanted to throw it out there for conversations sake. Tell me how that is considered "bickering?" Haha.

#2187107 Lidstrom agrees to 1-year, $6.2m contract

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 20 June 2011 - 09:22 AM

Yeah, I am with you NFM. I dont understand why people always want superstars to take paycuts because they have been in one place for a long time. Lids has given us everything. Hes still competing for the Norris. Find 5 other defensemen that can put up 60 points. Pay cut? Why? Because he is not 26 anymore? I simply dont get it. Lids is worth whatever Holland will pay him. We should count our lucky stars that he is and has been on our team. With once-in-a-generation players it doesnt matter about money.

The fact that you basically just assumed that I wrote that in relation to the fact that he's been here forever is ridiculous. Next time actually read my post and realize the reasoning behind it. It's beend one in the past, players have deferred salary or taken less so that a better team could be contructed. This is more than likely Lidstrom's last season, so it's not unthinkable that he may take a little less to help his team put an even better team out there to compete for the Cup (one last time - for Lids).

Is it going to happen, more than likely not, but again if you read my post and truly understood it, you would have seen where I wrote that I didn't have a problem if he didn't take a cut. You may also note that I was thinking a cut of 1.45 million, which if you were to include incentives, he more than likely would still take home the same amount of money. And the difference would then count against next years cap.

#2187080 Lidstrom agrees to 1-year, $6.2m contract

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 20 June 2011 - 08:42 AM

I'm pretty sure I just heard the voice of God narrating that link that Lidstrom is returning.


#2186080 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 16 June 2011 - 09:07 AM

At the end of the day, it's a business. If Holland and CO. feel that Jagr gives them a little offensive punch and helps the team over Draper, then so be it. Draper will still be a part of the organization, as he and the Wings have stated.

This has no effect on Osgood either. Osgood is a matter of not playing very much over the past 2 seasons and Holland being concerned about his backup goalie's durability. I completely understand them possibly moving on from Ozzie. Ozzie will more than likely have a place in the front office as well.

I don't know if Jagr will help, hinder, or be status quo... No one truly knows the answer to this question. The haters and fans alike will have their arguments for both sides, but the fact is that no one knows how much he can contribute.

I think the organization owes it to themselves and the fans to consider any and all options, which is what Holland is doing in this case. It would be silly to just say, "he's too old, forget about it." If that were the case, bye bye Lidstrom. Jagr has been an older playing in a weaker league, but has consistently put up numbers in both regular season and playoffs over there. He has been reliable. If we can sign him for 1-1.5 million on a 1 year deal and he comes in and puts up 40 points +, then it's a success. If not, it'll be just like Modano, and we have guys to step in (Emmerton, Miller).

I personally, would like to see it happen, only for the contract I listed above.

#2185995 SCF: Boston Bruins vs. Vancouver Canucks

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 16 June 2011 - 12:55 AM

I lol'ed :blushing:

You sir, are an idiot.

#2185823 SCF: Boston Bruins vs. Vancouver Canucks

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 15 June 2011 - 10:09 PM


Are you honestly backing the behavior or am I reading your acronym wrong?

I hate Bettman as much as the next fan, but again, it's not about him, it's about the Bruins victory.

#2185793 SCF: Boston Bruins vs. Vancouver Canucks

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 15 June 2011 - 09:55 PM

I don't care how much you hate the Commish.... have a little class when he's announcing the Stanley Cup Champs. This moment isn't about him, it's about Boston.