Firehawk

On the replay I saw the white ice.  Still, it's frustrating when Homer gets called if he just farts into the blue paint.

I went absolutely Berzerk when I saw that goal stood, because of what you just said.  Players breathe on a goalie and they call goals back, but that was so obvious that the player deliberately stood his ground and did not allow Howard to get over to make a stop.  It was out in white area and I understand the rule, but it was just infuriating, because far less has been called back.

I hate the league refs.  No wonder nobody watches the NHL.  Average hockey fan out there would have seen that and said "how is that goal alloweD?"

I honestly don't know how players avoid taking their stick and wrapping it around a referee's head.

I think we are seeing a lot of what we have seen this season... the other team's goalie making great saves to keep his team in the game while ours is not. Every time Howard lets in a goal ppl say "oh but he had no chance" well it is the job of a goalie to make saves to keep his team in it... Leighton is doing that very well right now... impo when ozzie comes back Babs should get him going and if ozzie can get into ggear he is our best bet to win

Howard over-commited on every goal tonight.  It's ridiculous.  And this is coming from a Howard fan.  He's really getting on my nerves lately though.  Another 3+ goal game for Howard.  It's getting ridiculous.

WTF is Milbury talking about?  Man i hate these clowns.  There must be enough people that like these guys for them to keep their jobs.

Can't say I don't absolutely love seeing the Pens dealing with all their troubles: injuries to whiny baby cindy and Malkin, amongst others.  And, seeing them get beat up all over the place, and 9 goals scored on them.   I love it.

This was disgraceful... Why don't you watch what happened when Yzerman got leveled in a game. There was one response, Probert, Kocur, McCarty, etc would fight the player. Only one time face to face not this sucker punch stuff

full video of all the rough stuff
By the way I'm not defending the Penguins, this was just stupid. HUUUUUUUGE homer announcers... Same guys that said the Cooke hit wasn't a head shot. Talbot got what he had coming to him

I'm glad others have said it.  People saying this was disgraceful made me refer to one of the most epic games in Wings history, Avs vs Wings March 26, 1997.  How would that not be the same embarrassment?  What would be the difference?  McCarty and the rest of the team avenged the draper hit.  

AND, McCarty sucker punched Lemieux but yet nobody called him a gutless turd...

I think these games like this, seeing bad blood boil over, are absolutely awesome to see. I am sick of all sports teams being buddy buddy with each other, like NBA teams giving love to each other after games, NFL the same thing.  I don't want my team to like the opponent at all!

I dunno.  I don't think this game was an embarrassment.  I think hockey needs this stuff once in a while.

I hope we get shut out 6-0.  That's usually the only way this snobbish team responds.  What a joke.  I love this team but I am so sick of seeing no complete games in the last 60 or so.  We lost the cup to Pit because we felt we should have had it handed to us.  That mentality has not left htis team.  I am so sick of watching lackluster play.  I'm tired of seeing the wings HAVE TO SCORE 4 goals minimum per game to win.  I'm just tired of it.  Where is the defense?  Where's the fundamentals?  Where's the basic hockey skills?  This ain't a drop in game.

How ironic that over on HF boards the SJ fans are complainin about the refs.  They are the LAST team that can complain about the referees.  They have double the PPs in the playoffs and they've had the calls go their way 90% of the time.  

COME ON CHICAGO!

Read between the lines, Babs is blaming the refs for the loss in the series.  Can't really blame him.

Oh, stop blaming the referees. When you don't win face-offs, don't play with any strength or heart, or any "give a damn", you're going to lose. And the Sharks showed Detroit that. Not that Detroit gives a damn.

Yeah, there were tons of bad calls against Detroit. The winning goal came off a non-call. Who cares. They had PLENTY of time to get back in the game.

This Detroit team deserved to lose. Call me an idiot, a bandwagon fan, whatever. If they played like game #4, I would be singing a different tune. But they only played like they wanted to win twice in these playoffs. Sorry, but no matter how big of a fan I am, I'm not going to pretend like they are superheroes. Instead I am going to see them for what they were this postseason: Real people with a bad work ethic. If your co-workers were lazy, you'd be pissed too.

You know what?  I can't argue with you on any of that.  However, one could make a case that despite being outplayed or outhusseled, despite losing faceoffs (other than on PK's), despite playing with a lack of heart, it took bad calls or bad non calls to put the dagger in in all 4 of SJ's wins.  You could make a pretty solid case there.  I even want to go so far as to say it's the Wings own fault for having to chase the puck more than being on possession of the puck, but some crucial calls weren't even because of that.  

I don't know, it's just hard to swallow.  SJ deserves to win, and they get the credit, but boy they sure had a lot of help.

You know what I'm sick of?  The wings staying along the boards.  Anyone else notice that allf****** game?  Perimeter shots.  Wow, they put up 30 perimeter shots, including the one that scored.  How many chances did they have in the center of the ice?  1 or 2?  Almost nothing.  Even when the game was on the line late in the 3rd everyone was staying along the boards.  I Give SJ some credit for that but the Wings were slow today and they weren't crashing the net at all.  Where were the shots at the net in traffic?  NONE.  UGh.  I hate that we lost this way.  I really do.

I saw absolutely no desperation whatsoever after we got scored on, or any other time in this f***in game.  Nobody skating hard, NOBODY.  That 6 on 4 was the worst and slowestf****** power play I've ever seen out of this team.  PATHETIC

I have to say, I was impressed we got out of the 1st with a tie, and still impressed we are tied, because we have been outchanced.  We started coming on a bit.  The 3rd will separate the men from the boys.  I think the wings are going to have to steal one here.

So far Howard has been outstanding.  HE's kept us in.  The game might be out of hand by now.

Despite the absolutely ridiculous penalties, we really have to go back to Faceoffs 101, and defense 101.  It looks like the wings try to maintain possession of the puck in their own zone when getting forechecked.  You can't do that.  Their first priority should be to clear it out along the boards, PERIOD.  This is what they did when they were winning cups.  I don't know guys, besides all of that, I think maybe San Jose is just a better team than us. Do I think they are more complete when both teams are at their best?  No.  But they are more consistent thus far.  Their goalie isn't better but he doesn't have to be.  They are more overpowering on offense than we are, and it has been such a long time since we can actually say that.

I don't know.  If we lose this series, I think SJ will have to get a TON of credit.    With that being said, we still have as good a chance as any of coming back in this series.  One game at a time...

I hope these refs don't get to ref another game.  THAT WAS NOT GOALIE INTERFERENCE LOL.  We OBVIOUSLY pushed him into Howard.  What a joke man.  Honestly, what a joke.