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#2140432 4/2 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Predators 3 (OT)

Posted by Firehawk on 02 April 2011 - 02:57 PM

Wings playing over aggressive and it's back firing.

The no goal call was legit
Their goal was legit

Wings need to lower their emotions just a little bit so it doesn't get the better of them which it currently is IMO.

I disagree.

If you want to argue the non-goal that's cool.

But I don't think they're being overly aggressive. I love it, and I think they need to keep it up. We got scored on because of an unfortunate 5 on 3 (no gripe on that, the ref had to call that 2nd penalty, more annoyed with the first penalty).

I LOVE this out of the wings. We usually see this kind of play only in the playoffs when they're on.

We'll be ok if we keep this up.

#2140407 4/2 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Predators 3 (OT)

Posted by Firehawk on 02 April 2011 - 02:49 PM

Forget this goal.

I don't know how anyone can honestly say the refs call what they see and that there is not some kind of conspiring going on. Not necessarily against one specific team, but in general. There are penalties occurring with the ref looking at it and they decide not to call it.

It's just unbelievable.

The no goal on Homer was just stupid. Is this the sissy league or what? Why was the even a call on the hit on Erat? Becuase he looked injured? Was a great hit, Erat had his head down and got his bell rung. Toof****** BAD.

This is why the NHL sucks and is just getting worse. It's f***in pathetic.

#2139615 3/30 GDT: St. Louis Rams 10 at Detroit Lions 3

Posted by Firehawk on 31 March 2011 - 04:33 PM

What a load of garbage. Before last nights game, the Wings had given up 22 goals in the previous 10 games. That's 2.2 goals/game. So no, the Wings aren't going down the tubes. A zillion shots? WTF does that mean. Losing the capacity to play well. Go watch the Pistons.

Ok, let's look at the entire season to this point. 226 goals allowed over 77 games equals over a 2.93 goals per game average.

That's good for the worst defensive team IN THE PLAYOFFS RIGHT NOW except for Tampa Bay who has given up 230 with one less game played.

It's unbelievable. What was the stat for the goals scored in the last 10 games? Because that number has also been down substantially. The stat that matters less with regard to offense is that the wings have the 2nd best offense out of all the playoff teams currently in the league. This matters less because defense wins championships.

#2138251 Let's Talk About the Refereeing

Posted by Firehawk on 29 March 2011 - 07:02 PM

For me, it's not even a matter of if a ref misses a call once in awhile. Refs CLEARLY call penalties like crazy for a period and then stop calling them altogether the next. I swear to God it seems like they go into their referee lounge and someone from Toronto calls them, or someone talks to them telling them they're calling too many penalties and to slow it down.

I just don't get how they can call chincy crap that looks phantom-like and then miss obvious penalties. I honestly do think that if they call a lot of penalties suddenly, they 'decide' to put the whistle away for awhile.

It's not just wings fans that complain about refs. If you go onto any board, every teams' fans are complaining about the refs in most games.

Honestly, it does seem like the refs that let the play go (i.e. McCreary), seem to be deemed as better refs. I tend to agree. I don't think it's good for hockey that the younger refs decide they're going to call every tap on the leg and every horizontal stick as a hook. That's not hockey. Just let the teams play, my God.

I'm not saying there is a conspiracy against the wings, but it sure does seem that way sometimes. Last year in the playoffs, SJ gets a 5 on 3 in every F'n game. That's just ridiculous.

Just my thoughts.

One other thing: I'm tired of hearing people let the refs off the hook because of reasons like "the game is so fast". Yeah, well they're NHL refs in an NHL game. If they can't keep pace with the game, then get someone who can. I get the most frustrated when penalties that occur are so blatently obvious and they are not called. How can you miss a play on Homer last game but call a chincy hook on Zetterberg with 3 seconds left with the game tied? It's just stupid. I'm sorry. Had it happened the other way, I'd be less upset obviously, but I still would say it wasn't right.

#2137778 3/28 GDT: Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Firehawk on 28 March 2011 - 09:00 PM

Who thinks if Howard was playing we'd be losing? Hate to say it.

#2137505 3/28 GDT: Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Firehawk on 28 March 2011 - 08:04 PM


God, just shoot the damn puck.Instead there's 3 passes and it's broken up with no shot.

#2137479 3/28 GDT: Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Firehawk on 28 March 2011 - 07:56 PM

I just wish we'd:

A. Stop passing it all around the perimeter.
B. One time the damn puck instead of stopping it, thinking about it, and then shooting it. What is with the slow reaction of the Wings this year? I refuse to believe it's Age. Everybody has said since seemingly 1995 we were too old to win.

But come on. Stop second guessing. ONE TIME THE DAMN PUCK!

It's nerve racking watching them pass all around the outside of the ice and then not even getting a shot.

#2137445 3/28 GDT: Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Firehawk on 28 March 2011 - 07:47 PM

Anyone notice that most everybody says that just about every game is poorly referreed? I don't disagree, but just sayin. Perhaps this is another reason the NHL doesn't grow. Even hockey enthusiasts can't understand the calls. How would a newcomer?

#2136096 Jimmy Howard watch thread

Posted by Firehawk on 26 March 2011 - 11:08 AM

That's a reflection on the Red Wings offense, not on Jimmy Howard's play in goal. Nashville wins because of Pekka Rinne, the Red Wings win because of their firepower up front. There are very few, if any, starting NHL calibre goalies that wouldn't have the same number of wins as Jimmy with that talent in front of them on offense.

I'm glad some people get it. Thank you for not being a superficial retard when someone says "but he's got the most wins in the league". So ridiculous.


I was a howard supporter last year. i thought he was great. I was hoping it wasn't just because other teams hadn't figured him out. YOu could make this case this year that that's precisely what's happened. Other teams studied howard, and now they know how to beat him. The Wings defense last year was not great either, but Howard was much better. This year the defense is about the same it seems, and Howard's numbers are terrible for being on a super power like the Red Wings.

If we had a proven solid goalie on this team this year I argue that that goalie would have even more wins.

For those saying the defense has hung him out to dry all year, that's just ridiculous. Take the game the other night where Howard got pulled on all 4 of those goals. Tell me which goal the defense left him 'out to dry' on? Howard gave up big rebounds, one of which he never even bothered to cover when it came right through the crease right by his stick. It made no sense. Howard is slow to get from post to post, he over-reacts on shots, and he rarely ever controls rebounds. This is not the making of a good goalie.

Now last year, I gave him the free pass. Even in the playoffs, I didn't care how many bad goals he let in. I just cared that he gained experience for this year. This year he does NOT get any passes from me. I've called him out this season, and if he does not elevate his game in the playoffs, then I will be calling for his head in the off season. There is no excuse. Now that he knows the speed of the NHL regular season versus playoffs, there's no excuse. It's time to become the goalie we need him to be, or start over with another goalie.

With that being said, I feel Howard does get the start in net for the beginning of the playoffs. This would typically be where I say if he doesn't measure up after a couple of games, he should be pulled and put Ozzie in and hope he can do the same as in prior playoff years. But I don't know what the answer would be this time. You can't throw in a pure rookie like MacDonald if Howard buckles. And what a shame, another entire season would be wasted.

#2134747 Jimmy Howard watch thread

Posted by Firehawk on 22 March 2011 - 08:37 PM

I went to NHL.com and checked a couple stats for HOward.

His GAA is 2.79, which has improved slightly. But, he's still ranked 55th out of the 84 goalies that came up.

His save % was .908, which is 48th in the league. I'm sorry, but on a team like the Red Wings, a very sound team, very good team, these numbers are pathetic.

Those comparing Osgood to Howard, there's no comparison. Ozzie quarterbacked us to 2 cups, and I just don't think it's fair. Howard has done nothing yet. This playoff is make or break. I was behind Howard until 1/3 of the way through the season, and as of late I've really lost confidence in him. All 4 goals were absolutely pathetic. If howard lets in goals that are very difficult to stop or impossible, that's one thing. But every goal he let in yesterday was just pathetic. He is slow to get back to posts, he doesn't even attempt to control rebounds (a la 2 of the goals yesterday), he over-reacts to shots/passes...it's ridiculous.

I think he's rattled. I don't know if he sucks this much or if it's a mental game with him right now. I will forgive everything if he plays well in the playoffs, but I don't have much faith.

#2133685 3/21 GDT: Penguins 5 at Red Wings 4 (SO)

Posted by Firehawk on 21 March 2011 - 07:55 PM

CAN we please put MacDONALD IN? THANK YOU!!!

I cannot believe I defended Howard for all last year and post season. This guy is absolutely atrocious. CONTROL Af****** REBOUND YOU SIEVE!

#2132383 3/19 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Predators 3

Posted by Firehawk on 19 March 2011 - 07:45 PM

Quick ref, hurry and find a reason to nullify it...HURRY.

#2129455 3/11 GDT: Oilers 1 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Firehawk on 12 March 2011 - 10:12 AM

So Howard does one better than last time and keeps it down to one goal against, and we're STILL complaining about him? Yeah, he really sucks, doesn't he? I can't believe he let in that one whole soft goal. I mean, there's no reason he couldn't have got us a shutout so that the rest of the team could've taken the night off...what a lazy bum. Trade him.

LOL. And if the wings hadn't miraculously scored a goal by pure luck hit 2 edm players, the wings would have lost on arguably the worst goal Howard has given up this year.

Look at the big picture there pal. Howard has a horrid GAA and a horrid SV%.

I agree. If you want real hockey talk, go over to the hfboards. The hockey fans there are much more down to earth and its refreshing. I come here to discuss the games with fans of the team I love, but it seems here, too many red wings fans have brain damage.

Howard let in one bad goal. Hell, its a goal I let in probably once every two weeks. Anyway, he rebounds and plays solid, yet still gets the shaft. Just further proof of the lofty expectations that wings fans here have on their goalies. In order for a goalie to be great here, 3 of the 4 things must happen every game.

1. A shutout
2. No rebounds
3. Less than 1.50 GAA
4. Greater than a .945 Save Percentage

Print this out and circle the ones that are applicable. If you can't circle 3, he is a bad goalie and should be traded.

This is the most retarded post I've seen here in awhile.

First, don't compare yourself to Howard LOL. You're not an NHL goalie dude, so you are expected to let soft goals in. Second, Howard doesn't play solid. Howard has a horrible GAA. The real fact remains that the wings have not played well and have not been consistent at all over a long period of time, yet you're focused on a very lucky win yesterday, against the 3rd worst team in the league.

People would be singing a very different tune today if we hadn't gotten purely lucky at the end there, VERY DIFFERENT. It would have been a 1-0 loss on the worst goal Howard's ever given up, and people would have been down on the wings offense, and their continued lack of defense, and continued lack of 60 minute play.

IT WAS EDMONTON! Actually, it wasn't even Edmonton, it was the AHL Edmonton team. It was a joke that the wings couldn't score any goals against that team yesterday.

LOOK at the big picture.

#2129228 3/11 GDT: Oilers 1 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Firehawk on 11 March 2011 - 09:32 PM

Did the refs spend some time in Japan today before the game? Maybe that nuclear radiation is getting to them. WTF?

(Thoughts and prayers are with the folks over there that were affected, no disrespect intended)

#2129077 3/11 GDT: Oilers 1 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Firehawk on 11 March 2011 - 08:09 PM

Right. This team can still play great hockey, we saw it last week and when they won 5 straight. However that didn't stop people from bitching about s***

I'm not even sure we can call it great hockey. Great that they won, but the worrying sign is it takes them 4-5 goals a game to win 4-3 or 5-4. How many wins this year did they only allow 1-2 goals a game, or even 3? That's what I am extremely worried about for the playoffs. We won't be scoring 5 goals a game, we'll be scoring 3 or 4 at most, which means Howard has to keep a 2-2.5 goals against and I am not confident that is going to happen.