wow... I can't believe theres not a single thread dedicated to the 3-time champ... this man was the heart and soul of this franchise for 8 years.. come on. who knows if we'd ever beat the Avs if Shanny never arrived. we might all hate him today but that doesn't change history....
Another overtime loss where Babcock fails to have Pavs or Hank out there in the near last minute and yet again we get scored on. Babcock is not doing a good job coaching this year, but it is not entirely his fault I mean look at what he had to ice tonight as the 2nd line.
I was at the game, and I was very disgusted with the Wings play. Their turned the puck over a million times, could not receive passes, were unable to control pucks, and sustained little zone time.
- Cleary is awful, there is no other way to describe him. He needs to go. I wonder how many games we need to lose before Kenny figures out a way to bring Nyquist up because we will be such a better team with him.
- Howie had a good game, would like him to not get beat so easily on the 1st wrap around goal, but the smaller nets are a factor in that as well. If not for him, we don't make it to OT.
- Pavs, Hank dominated again... they are the only two players for our team lately.
- Babcock needs to give someone for Alfie to play with for crying out loud.
He makes great saves until we are winning. He can never hold a lead it seems. Regardless of what the defense do, the goalie is the last line of defense. If the team gives him a 2 goal lead, he should be able to make a couple key saves to keep it. I didn't watch tonight's game but I have noticed this all season. If we have a lead and Jimmy is in, we almost always lose it.
This. I believe this is the 4th time this season that we have given up a 2 goal lead. That is unaccptable considering we have only played less than 20 games. That ultimately falls on the goalie when it happens 4 times in said amount of games. Also, some blame needs to go to the coaches and players for not fixing the issue, but the bulk of it is on Jimmy when you have a 2-0 lead, you really should win the game,.
Im sorry but i blame 2/3 lf those last minute goals on jimmy. Elite goaltender my ass. 5-5-3? No thanks. Hs gotta come trough and he seemingly
I was against Jimmy his first 2 seasons here but he has really grown on me the last couple seasons. But here is the thing I have been telling my friends. Jimmy has never gotten us past the 2nd round, like it or not. He has a bad tendency to allow late minute goals (I wonder how many he has let in because it happens a LOT since he started to play for us). The fact is that he is a great goalie, but he seems to have trouble making the key saves at the key time in the dying minutes of games. In my opinion, if Jimmy can't prove to be capable for us we should strongly consider going after Henrik Lunquivst in the off season... imo he is the best goalie in the world, and God knows he knows how to make key saves at any given time in a game.
I am sorry but Mike Babcock is not doing a good coaching job this year. Just like the last overtime we lost in the last minute, WHY THE EFF would Pavs and Hank not be on the ice in the last minute... that is just awful coaching. It killed us last time, and it killed us again. They should ALWAYS be on the ice in the last minute.
3 of their goals came in the last minutes of the periods, that is just unacceptable. I know none of the goals were Jimmy's fault, but ever since he started playing as our starter I swear there are a ton of late minute goals against us in periods, and those are killers. He needs to find a way to make important saves at the dying minutes of periods.
Lastly, the officiating this year is awful. How do the Wings not get a single powerplay again during a game?! The Red Wings are lucky to get more than 1 powerplay this season, despite the fact that Pavs and Hank are continuously hooked and held. This has to change... Babcock needs to let this be known that it is unacceptable.
Now, back to Babcock, he has to fix these lines, no one is producing besides the big boys. Get Cleary the hell off of the 2nd line, he is awful, he is slow, he has no hockey IQ, he has NO PLACE on this team let alone the 2nd line!
2 things then I'm going to bed because even though this team frustrates me at times sometimes our fans frustrate me more. If people really think that smith fakes an injury because he thought a rebound goal from The hash marks on the ice was a guaranteed goal before it even got over there, then I'm at a loss for words. I guess the only way you can pull something or tweek something in your neck or shoulder is if the puck hits you there not by extending to make a save and then again that the rebound actually would have had a chance of going in if Smith was hurt (or faking as some think)
For the guy that said he should leave the game? Wait till it happens the other way and tell me it should force Howard out of the game and should then apply for every time the game is stopped or an injury? Any player that gets hurts has to leave the game.
Finally the people getting on Howard, no he did not have a great game but I'm forgetting the first goal but two empty net back door rebound goals because Andersson can't cover his man twice, and a breakaway and every one wants Gus back in...? Knee Jerk reaction much...
And finally point please for the love of all things on this earth... Unless you enjoy gettig sucked in to a meaningless debate just realize that fat guy in a maltby jersey will never be happy with our team performance (maybe he is just that pessimistic and if so it's his opinion and it's fin) but I am choosing to exercise my ability to use the ignore posts option lol...
My rant, go wings and have a good night all lol
Howie has made saves when his helmet came off... and he has gotten hurt before (hit with puck) but kept battling until a whistle. He has honor and heart and a willingness to compete. He would not lay down to have a goal called off and then get up a minute later, looking fine I might add, and play the rest of the game.
Questionable calls? This was awful officiating once again. I don't care of Smith was down, the NHL needs to fix that rule... if the goalie goes down in that situation he either leaves the game, or else the goal should count because if he is okay to stay in the game, then no reason to say the goal should not count. That really effed us over.
The linesman need to move the eff out of the way, single handedly costed us there on the 3rd goal. And then the ref calls embellishment on the most obvious hook ever. It was not until we were down by 2 that the refs decided to give us a powerplay. The NHL officiating is just lame and the worst part is im not even surprised anymore.
Now, onto the Wings. Babcock has got to come up with better lines. I am all for Weiss needing time to adjust to our system and I do see him competing hard, but Babcock needs to change the 2nd and 3rd lines up. That 3rd line is just too damn slow. It is time to freakin play Tatar and NOT SAMMY!!!! I like Bert on the top line with Pavs and hank, knowing that if momentum turns from us we can switch and put Alfie on the top line.
Also, I would like to see Abby move to the 3rd line to give it some spark like he did Franzen.
I love how Kronners is such a humble guy, just like the great Red Wings leaders before him. Instead of crying about the hit like a guy like Crosby would, Kronners admits that he put himself in the bad position. Great to hear he is doing okay because we cannot afford to lose him too long.
The top line was unreal... please Babs never break them up I LUV when Bert plays with Pavs!
Alfie had a great game, despite being on the 3rd line. Speaking of which all the bottom 6 were good tonight.
The two things I will say is that despite winning 5-2, Franzen still stood out as being 3 steps behind, lazy and useless. Alfie should defs be on that 2nd line over Franzen. Also, the team needs to do a better job at limiting shots. BUT, a much needed win for sure and hopefully they come out in Boston looking for retribution on Monday.
if ever a player was in serious need of some tough love, it's Franzen
I've noticed that a lot less people refer to him as 'Mule' as they used to(myself included), I think he's lost the right to his nickname, unless all mules become listless pylons
Babs should bench him for a game, might at least be a step toward waking him up a little
I agree... if this continues, he needs to be bought out next summer I am sick of it. But to punish Alfie over Fraznen is silly cuz at least Alfie has been trying, and has looked rly good tonight. Franzen on the other hand....
I am liking some of Babcock's line changes, but not all of them.
To begin, I am LOVING bert on that top line! He looks great out there with the big boys.
I am still not liking the 2nd line at all... literally every shift that line was on the ice, we were hemmed in our zone. The reason? IMO it is Franzen and his lazy play. I counted at least 4 times where the puck came to franzen and he literally just stayed put with the puck until the Pilly player came to take it from him... I am tired of Babs playing Franzen over guys that deserve it. I would like to see Alfie on the 2nd line and Franzen on the 3rd line.