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#2540268 10/11/14 GDT: Game 2 | Ducks 3 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by wings_fanatic on 11 October 2014 - 11:31 PM

Ppl complained about Osgood. Ppl complained about Hasek. Ppl will complain about Howard. He's not bad, but he's also not the best, but he's ours, and for that I like him.

Till Mrazek is ready, that's my stance.


The difference being Dom and Ozzy won the big ones. They were big time players for big time games. What has Howard done since becoming our starter? He has never taken us past the 2nd round. Even the years where we had Lidstrom, Rafi, Kronner and Stu as our top 4 D, Howard never took us past the 2nd round and, in some cases, costed us playoffs games (See game 3 both years against San Jose). He was sub par against Nashville. Thats why this year I think is the year where Howard either proves himself, or we make a change.


On another note, I find it humorous how often the Red Wings are screwed against the Ducks. Think about it:

2008: Lidstrom scores in the last minute of the game to tie it, only to have Dan Ohalloran waive the goal off... awful call

2009 playoffs: In the last minute of one of the games, the Wings scored to tie the game, but the ref said he intended to blow the whisle...awful call

2013 playoffs game 6: Last minute of the game and Quincy is tripped and there is no call, Ducks score to tie the game.


There are probably more examples but these are the big ones. That is a lot of bad calls against the same team. Not just bad calls, but bad calls that costed us the game or could have costed us the game. 

#2540251 10/11/14 GDT: Game 2 | Ducks 3 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by wings_fanatic on 11 October 2014 - 09:27 PM


No.  Officiating sucks equally in all three sports (don't watch baseball enough to know or care).


Every time I'm ready to proclaim NHL referees the worst, I think of NBA and NFL referees and retract the thought.  Same thing with the other two sports.  Referees are like players.  They're human and will make stupid mistakes.  


What sports really need is to get rid of refs and replace them with computers that never make any mistakes.  But that's obviously not happening right now, so we're stuck with what we have.  


If Mrazek is better, than he should start.  


This franchise doesn't owe Howard anything.  It's the same franchise that benched better goalies like Hasek, Joseph and Osgood at some point in their careers.  


Well said. IMO this is an important year for Howard. If he continues to be just average, then that is not good enough. Not when we have a really good goalie in the minors and he can play the puck too.

#2540243 10/11/14 GDT: Game 2 | Ducks 3 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by wings_fanatic on 11 October 2014 - 09:13 PM

Solid game tonight. I still do not like Kindl at all, I find he loses every single puck battle that there is. Quincy had a very strong game which is nice to see. I thought Smith had an okay game but had a couple plays I think he would like back. He needs to remember he is at his best when his legs are moving. The top line is starting to get going... they generated a lot of chances tonight and looked impressive. The same can be said for the kid line... only a matter of time until they get on the scoreboard. 


Howard had some nice saves tonight, however it comes back to the timely save idea. At the end of the day, he simply was not good enough tonight. He really needs to learn how to handle the puck. Either handle the puck or stay in the net. Anything is better then confusing your team everytime you come out of the net. He costed us a goal, but did not cost us the game. He needs to be better though.


Overall, I am really liking what I am seeing from the team. They are competing really hard and their speed is amazing. Bare in mind we are looking quite impressive WITHOUT Pav in the lineup. 

#2539941 10/11/14 GDT: Game 2 | Ducks 3 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by wings_fanatic on 11 October 2014 - 07:16 PM

Someone REALLY needs to teach Howard how to handle the puck! That exact play probably happens like 5 times a year with him and a goal is given up. I have seen 12 year old goalies handle the puck better then he does. I know it is not his comfort zone so either learn how to handle the puck or stay in your net.


Also, I HATE Kesler! These refs neeed to get their act together and make the right calls.

#2539365 10/9 GDT : Bruins 1 at Red Wings 2.

Posted by wings_fanatic on 09 October 2014 - 06:16 PM


I have a mac so I'm using Safari, having no issues thus far (*touches wood)


I was initially using google chome. I just tried internet explore and it is working thankfully. I hate internet explore but tonight I love it haha. Now, lets go wings!

#2538390 10/4 Final Preseason GDT: Detroit Red Wings vs Boston Bruins

Posted by wings_fanatic on 04 October 2014 - 07:24 PM

One thing is for sure. Oulette is so much better than kindl it isn't even funny. So much more composed, a better skater, smarter. I will be extremely disappointed in babs if he opts to play kindl over oulette. On a final note, good for goose to score in the shootout... Maybe confidence booster to get him going a bit more.

#2538351 10/4 Final Preseason GDT: Detroit Red Wings vs Boston Bruins

Posted by wings_fanatic on 04 October 2014 - 05:49 PM

We can survive without Francine

Ya please don't put franzen anywhere near the same sentence as pav and hank.

#2536667 Training Camp Thread

Posted by wings_fanatic on 20 September 2014 - 04:26 PM

Someone in the comments section in the link Dirtydangles posted noted that Weiss has looked really good out there so far, despite the stats.


To add to that, Pav did not get any points today either. I guess we should bench him? I don't understand why some Red Wings fans need to be so negative all the time. I am more than willing to give Weiss another chance to prove himself. He is a heck of a player and lets see what he can do healthy this year before we dump him in freakin training camp!

#2533473 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by wings_fanatic on 01 August 2014 - 04:49 PM

Last season Howard costed us around 10 games before Jan.1st and then after that he found his game. To add to that, We missed Pav and Hank for half the season, Weiss pretty much the whole season, Helm off and on all year, Franzen was hit or miss, Alfie missed time, Danny D, Smith and Ericsson all missed chunks of time. Going into this season, with a very good schedule that we have, a fresh healthy load, there is NO REASON to think that this team cannot do substantially better than we did last year. I mean for God sake, in March alone, we litererally did not have Pav, Hank, Weiss, Helm, Anderson (5 centerman) hence why we had to trade for Legwand. I would LOVE to see how any other team in the league would fare in that situation. Lets stop being so negative and wait to see what our healthy team can do, with the kids also playing important roles.

#2527874 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by wings_fanatic on 01 July 2014 - 12:06 PM

I wannt Jim Nil back!

#2527503 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by wings_fanatic on 01 July 2014 - 01:14 AM

I'm thinking we get one of Boyle or niskinin and inginla ... Just a feeling

#2523209 2014 SCF : (2) The Big Apple vs. (3) Hollywood

Posted by wings_fanatic on 07 June 2014 - 10:51 PM

Kings win largely due to the NHL officials STILL not getting the calls right for goalie interference. Lunquivst was clearly interfered with on that 3rd goal, but yet that goal counted, which paved the way for the comeback. The NHL consistently gets that call wrong and what a shame that that goal is what killed the rangers tonight, even though it should not have counted.


I cannot count how many times we have been burned with that rule. IMO this is why coaches should have 1 chance a game to challenge a call. 

#2520420 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by wings_fanatic on 14 May 2014 - 05:39 PM

Anyone else feel like nyquist is this yers brunner? Trade him now while we still can!


Brunner played all year with Datsyuk or Zetty. Nyquist was good all season with Zetty and when Pav and Hank were BOTH out, Nyquist raised his game even more and single handedly took our team to the playoffs. Nyquist displayed that he is not only a good player, but also a smart player, a hard worker, a team first kind of guy and most importantly, a good leader. That is NOT the type of player you trade away and he is absolutely not even comparable to Brunner. My god some ppl...

#2519340 Red Wings announcement tomorrow

Posted by wings_fanatic on 05 May 2014 - 11:23 PM

No. If you are going to make stuff up, at least try to have it make sense. The first "rumour" of yours is awful, not even a 5 year old would make that trade. Not only that, but Nyquist especially is pretty much untouchable after the season he had and the way the organization talks about him. Regarding Franzen for Umberger, that too is false because Columbus is thinking of buying out Umberger so why would Kenny make a trade when he can wait for that to unfold. You sir need to stop making things up.

#2518962 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by wings_fanatic on 02 May 2014 - 07:00 PM

Guys I still think dan Boyle is the best option for us at this time. The biggest problem with our D is that they are too young. Adding a veteran guy like him is perfect. He can come in and play around 23-25 minutes a game and make our pp loads better. The best part is that it gives us a key guy for around 3 maybe 4 seasons which IMO is our window to put a team together to win a cup with pav and hank before they too retire. After Boyle retires it opens up a spot for a younger guy that will be ready by that time.