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#2460652 12/4 GDT : Flyers 6 at Red Wings 3

Posted by wings_fanatic on 04 December 2013 - 01:19 PM

Per Kahn:

Here are tonight's lines and defense pairs:

Gustav Nyquist-Johan Franzen-Stephen Weiss

Justin Abdelkader-Darren Helm-Daniel Alfredsson

Drew Miller- Joakim Andersson-Tomas Tatar

Daniel Cleary-Cory Emmerton-Mikael Samuelsson

Jonathan Ericsson-Niklas Kronwall

Kyle Quincey-Brendan Smith

Brian Lashoff-Jakub Kindl

Jimmy Howard (starting)

PP 1: 8-93-90-11-55
PP 2: 14-43-21-4-37 (dat speed)


Brendan Smith would make that powerplay unit so much better then Kindl

#2458018 11/24 GDT: Red Wings 3 @ Sabres 1

Posted by wings_fanatic on 24 November 2013 - 07:46 PM

Great, much needed win bythe Wings. THe only complaint I have is Dan Cleary and Kindl.


Fact is, after this game, I think Babs needs to realize to play Monster for the time being.... he is getting us wins. We all know Jimmy is good, but he has not been getting us wins. Jimmy has started nearly all our games, and has been limited to just 5 wins. Monster has started 6 times and has 5 wins... To me that says that Monster is doing his job and deserves to keep playing. Not only did he make timely saves, but I love the way he can come out and play the puck... it helps the team SO MUCH when retrieving pucks. At the end, he made a save with his glove, put it down and passed it out to allow the Wings to clear... that is stuff Jimmy can;t do and it helps. I just feel that it seems like, this season thus far, the Wings play much more confidently with Monster in net. Keep playing him.

#2457904 11/24 GDT: Red Wings 3 @ Sabres 1

Posted by wings_fanatic on 24 November 2013 - 06:44 PM

Great period by Monster... the only reason that this game is still tied. 


- Cleary is awful. There is just no place for him on this team. He just gives the puck away and he can't even stay on his own feet anymore. 

- Kindl with one awful turnover and about 10 shots of his have been blocked. He really needs to learn how to shoot the puck with his head up, and this is why he should NOT be on the 2nd pp unit over Brendan Smith


- Helm has had a couple turnovers, but ultimately another great effort and a nice goal. 

- Alfie doesnt seem to have missed a beat thus far, though I wish he would have shot the puck on the 3 on 1.


Also, that is a joke that there was no interference call on the hit on Tatar.


The Red Wings NEED to win this game. Anything less than 2 points is a joke.

#2457705 Brendan Smith

Posted by wings_fanatic on 24 November 2013 - 03:58 PM

I have been saying this for a long time. Brendan Smith should be the guy manning the point on the 2nd PP unit... not Kindl. Kindl is like a little kid when he gets the puck... he never knows what to do and then just ends up making a stupid play. Smith has the offensive instinct and the ability to get points. Babcock is making a huge mistake not playing Smith on the PP

#2457531 11/23 GDT: Game 24 - Senators 4 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by wings_fanatic on 24 November 2013 - 02:20 AM

Thank God we are only playing Buffalo tomorrow... we should still be able to win that game without Pasha... I think Pasha will be fine come Wednesday I think it is just the team making sure, which I would rather them do.


After viewing this game, it is apparent that the Sens are a bunch of hacks, and just take runs at our top guys the entire game... like honestly what a bunch of goons. I really hope the Wings get their fully healthy team back by the time we play in Ottawa so that we can just destroy them because, despite us losing both times, our full lineup, when on its game, is far far better then the Sens.


Another thing, Howard isn't giving us wins. He is not to blame for us losing, but his stats don't lie... he hasn't been playing like we know (and he knows) he can be. Monster has won just one less game then Howard for crying out loud and, in doing so, one of those wins was solely because of Monster playing super good. So, if you ask me, Monster should be getting the start tomorrow and if he gets us a win, then Babs should continue to ride him. It is time to stop just letting everyone play as if they have earned the right and time to start to make these players earn their time.

#2456064 Respect Babcock and Holland

Posted by wings_fanatic on 21 November 2013 - 04:08 PM

After reading the comments today, if They send Nyquist down after the game tonight, then they should both be fired. That is just ridiculous. There is absolutely no reason to send him down after one game, I don't care about the waiver eligibility... get rid of Cleary, the guy who supposedly took a discount to stay here, despite the fact that he isn't worth loose change that I could find on the street. Cleary provides NOTHING to this team and seeing him on the top line with Pavs tonight is sickening and if the cherry on top of that is nyquist getting sent back down after tonight, then Kenny should be fired.

#2455764 Respect Babcock and Holland

Posted by wings_fanatic on 20 November 2013 - 02:22 PM

Yah we have tons of skills in the young guys, but 3 years from now Babcock will probably still be playing effin Dan Cleary on the top line. I understand Kenny has made good moves for this team, but he has also made some dumb ones that are affecting us now such as Cleary and Sammy contracts.


The main problem is Babcock. He is making all the wrong decisions this year. Continuing to not only play Cleary, but reward him with ice time and, somehow he now gets on the top line with #13! To add to that he has been out coached in almost every game. We lost 3 OT's in a row in the last minute of OT because Babcock failed to make sure to have Pavs, Hank or Kronners on the ice. Simply put, he isnt getting the job done.

#2455614 11/19 GDT: Predators 2 at Red Wings 0

Posted by wings_fanatic on 19 November 2013 - 11:47 PM

I am not even mad that we continue to lose. I am mad that we continue to lose because Ken Holland and Mike Babcock willingly do not ice our best team. It is ridiculous that Cleary is still playing on this team and the best part is, Babcock promoted him to the top line. Then, right away on that line, Cleary takes a retarded penatly. BUT then in the last minute, Babcock has CLEARY on the ice?!?!?!? I am sorry but I am really starting to think that Babcock needs to go, I mean this is just ridiculous.


And Holland is at blame to for re-signing Cleary and willingly playing Nyquist, who was one of our BEST PLAYOFFS performers last year, play in the minors. This team needs goals; secondary scoring. Yes getting Alfie and Weiss (I hope Weiss) back will help, but Nyquist would add so much more to this team then Cleary and Sammy.


It is sickening to watch this I just cannot fathom why Babcock and Holland are not playing their best possible team.

#2455391 11/19 GDT: Predators 2 at Red Wings 0

Posted by wings_fanatic on 19 November 2013 - 09:23 PM

Another game going by where every time Cleary is on the ice, nothing good happens. It is funny that Babs and Kenny know we need goals, but continue to play the plug Cleary over Nyquist.

#2454876 Brendan Smith

Posted by wings_fanatic on 17 November 2013 - 02:24 AM

Lol the last game the Wings won was the last game Smith played in.


Yah but since then, Weiss has went down, Franzen has went down and now Alfie has not played the last two games... so the Wings have been missing lots of different pieces at different times. The problem is Babcock is not using Smith properly at all. Instead of playing stupid Kindl on the 2nd PP, play Smith and Danny D. Danny D is a WAY better passer then Kindl, and every time he shoots the puck, it goes on net or he purposely shoots wide, much like Lidstrom. Kindl always ALWAYS has his shot blocked and makes very stupid plays. Smith has always been our offensive dman prospect, but Babcock has not given him any time on the PP at all in favor of Kindl and Quincy and Sammy!

#2454262 GDT: Capitals 4 @ Red Wings 3 (SO)

Posted by wings_fanatic on 15 November 2013 - 09:50 PM

Jimmy Howard has been incapable of making timely saves this season.

#2452935 Brendan Shanahan appreciation thread

Posted by wings_fanatic on 12 November 2013 - 01:35 PM

wow... I can't believe theres not a single thread dedicated to the 3-time champ... this man was the heart and soul of this franchise for 8 years.. come on. who knows if we'd ever beat the Avs if Shanny never arrived. we might all hate him today but that doesn't change history....




Why the hell would any of us hate him today? I love, and always will love Brendan Shanahan. He was a true hall of fame player and an honor for me to watch when I was just a young kid.

#2452581 11/9 GDT: Lightning 3 @ Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by wings_fanatic on 09 November 2013 - 11:16 PM

Another overtime loss where Babcock fails to have Pavs or Hank out there in the near last minute and yet again we get scored on. Babcock is not doing a good job coaching this year, but it is not entirely his fault I mean look at what he had to ice tonight as the 2nd line.


I was at the game, and I was very disgusted with the Wings play. Their turned the puck over a million times, could not receive passes, were unable to control pucks, and sustained little zone time.


- Cleary is awful, there is no other way to describe him. He needs to go. I wonder how many games we need to lose before Kenny figures out a way to bring Nyquist up because we will be such a better team with him.

- Howie had a good game, would like him to not get beat so easily on the 1st wrap around goal, but the smaller nets are a factor in that as well. If not for him, we don't make it to OT.

- Pavs, Hank dominated again... they are the only two players for our team lately. 

- Babcock needs to give someone for Alfie to play with for crying out loud.

#2452028 11/7 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by wings_fanatic on 07 November 2013 - 10:43 PM

Im sorry but i blame 2/3 lf those last minute goals on jimmy. Elite goaltender my ass. 5-5-3? No thanks. Hs gotta come trough and he seemingly
Never does.


I was against Jimmy his first 2 seasons here but he has really grown on me the last couple seasons. But here is the thing I have been telling my friends. Jimmy has never gotten us past the 2nd round, like it or not. He has a bad tendency to allow late minute goals (I wonder how many he has let in because it happens a LOT since he started to play for us).  The fact is that he is a great goalie, but he seems to have trouble making the key saves at the key time in the dying minutes of games. In my opinion, if Jimmy can't prove to be capable for us we should strongly consider going after Henrik Lunquivst in the off season... imo he is the best goalie in the world, and God knows he knows how to make key saves at any given time in a game.

#2452002 11/7 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by wings_fanatic on 07 November 2013 - 10:24 PM

I am sorry but Mike Babcock is not doing a good coaching job this year. Just like the last overtime we lost in the last minute, WHY THE EFF would Pavs and Hank not be on the ice in the last minute... that is just awful coaching. It killed us last time, and it killed us again. They should ALWAYS be on the ice in the last minute. 


3 of their goals came in the last minutes of the periods, that is just unacceptable. I know none of the goals were Jimmy's fault, but ever since he started playing as our starter I swear there are a ton of late minute goals against us in periods, and those are killers. He needs to find a way to make important saves at the dying minutes of periods.


Lastly, the officiating this year is awful. How do the Wings not get a single powerplay again during a game?! The Red Wings are lucky to get more than 1 powerplay this season, despite the fact that Pavs and Hank are continuously hooked and held. This has to change... Babcock needs to let this be known that it is unacceptable.


Now, back to Babcock, he has to fix these lines, no one is producing besides the big boys. Get Cleary the hell off of the 2nd line, he is awful, he is slow, he has no hockey IQ, he has NO PLACE on this team let alone the 2nd line!