Reading some of this is just crap. Honestly the amount of you guys who have just completely went against Nicklas Lidstrom is retarded. For the love of god he was playing very well until he got injured (fluke injury) and was in contention for the god damn norris trophy!! The only reason he looked somewhat human near the end of the season was because he never fully recovered from that injury. The man clearly has a lot of hockey left in him and he has been such a good leader for this team over the years it is not even funny. Any true Red Wings fan would want Lidstrom to come back no matter what and would realize he should be and IS their top priority going into the offseason. I truly feel very confident that he will choose to come back 1 more year and when he does, a lot of you debunking him right now will be right back on the wagon telling all of your friends how great Nick is.
Anyways, I think that after Kenny signs Nick up, he will first go after a goal scorer. I think it is very realistic to imagine the Wings landing Parise and Suter because they are very good friends, it is known that they would like to play together and Parise has stated several times how he loves the Wings system and style, and mentioned what it would be like to play with Pavel. Obviously it would take a lot of luck to get both of them, but it is very much possible.
If Kenny is unable to get Parise, then he will go after Semin, who I think would be a nice fit with Pavel. The advantage for Semin is that he is a right handed shot, has lots of skill, would be cheaper than Parise, and could still get at least 30 goals playing with Pavs.
After this route, I think Kenny will also add a bigger body forward to the 4th line.
Nick Lidstrom did not have a decline this season, he was playing through a deep bone ankle injury... if you knew what that is like then you would know how that affects your game a lot more than you think. Before that, he was a leading candidate for the Norris so it is safe to say that there is no decline this season for Nick. Also Nick has stated recently that he will never sign a contract and state that "this will be my last season." Nick is a classy guy and would not want to make a season about him... Now I think he will sign for one more year and he will once again be our best dman regardless of if we sign Suter or not.
As for Homer, I am thinking that we bring him back 1 last year. He is a veteran who will be hungry and he was one of our best players in the playoffs, competing every shift. I also think it is really important he comes back because him and Nick are best friends, always go out for lunch on a home game day, and always drive to the Joe together for games... pretty important that they both come back.
I feel sorry for Nick because you could tell how disappointed he was, but I have no doubt in my mind he will come back one more season. I dont want to blame Babcock for losing this series, but he was a good portion for the reason unfortunaely. His refusal to change the top 2 lines and give pavel some legitimate help is beyond me. But another thing that killed us was the start to the 3rd period tonight. It was a very very dumb decision by him to not start Lidstrom at the beginning of the period because that play would have never happened because he settles play down and gets things going... terrible mistake by Babcock and that was the difference maker tonight.
Overall I think that losing this series in 5 games will be much better for us for the off season then if we lost in 7 games because now it forces Ken Holland to do something in the off season. It was so clear this series that there was NO ONE for Pavel to work with at all. It was actually disgusting to watch. To be honest, I doubt Nick comes back unless Kenny makes some sort of move because this team as it is does NOT cut it. I fully expect to get Parise or Semin at the very least. I would also like to get a better 3rd or 4th liner. Also good bye Brad Stuart you were great here, but not towards the end... have fun in Cali.
Overall I think with a few additions (as I mentioned above)Nick will come back (and he willf****** prove any loser wrong that thinks he has lost it because he was in contention for the Norris til he got injured and there is no doubt in my mind that he will be amazing next year. I think with the additions, and Nick coming back next year, they will make a really strong run.
I was at the game today and I thought the Wings really deserved to win, but the refs thought otherwise.
- Franzen is terrible... he has zero effort, takes stupid penalties now and just does not deserve to play with pavel datsyuk ever... babs NEEDS to change the lines heading into next game because it is a must win game
- I thought the Wings really picked it up when Babs put White back with Lidstrom... I have always disliiked babs breaking them up so he better keep them together
- Time for Pavel and Z to play together I am tired of Franzen
- Our powerplay simply has to get better
One final thing, I was REALLY disappointed that there was no towels at the game!! I am going to game 4 tuesday so there better be towels! GO WINGS
Great response game by the Wings. A true veteran team showed by Bert letting Weber know that their team won't take cheap shot to its players... good clean fight and set the bar, then the Wings simply move on. I also loved seeing Babs clapping after the fight he looked real happy.
I think it is a crime that Brad Stuart was not a star tonight... he was simply fantastic all game, especially in desperation times. I also thought the bottom 6 looked fantastic and had lots of energy. One thing I think strongly is that Nick can handle more minutes and I expect that will be the case with less penalties being taken.
One thing that bugged me tonight was giveaways in our own zone... either find an outlet or just dump it out... too much cute stuff being tried that resulted in me holding my breath too much.
Lastly, I think it is very apparent that Pavs is injured and it is showing so Babs has to come to his sense that sticking him with Franzen and bert is NOT going to help. Even the Zetterberg line had no real flow tonight so I think Babs should load up Pavs and Hank at home because he can also get them out there when Weber is not. Bottom line is Pavs needs support since he is injured and Hank gives him that.
Or how about us LOYAL FANS chant something like "Lets Go Red Wings" or "Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy", or a player's name like last yaer with Bertuzzi. Honestly, I hope you don't have tickets to game 3 because you really don't deserve to go with that kind of attitude. I have tickets to game 3 and I will be going to support my team, not debunk them. Anyways, the series will be tied up 1-1 by the time Sunday rolls around.
I don't think a blowout win would be ideal for the Wings in game 1. All that would do is get the Preds to respond big time in game 2. I would rather a solid game between the 2 teams with the Wings coming out on top to win game 1 tonight and then hopefully continue for 15 more wins after that
I am REALLY looking forward to what all of these so called "professional analysists" have to say when the Wings eliminate the Preds. They will be jumping on the Red Wings bandwagon so fast it won't even be funny.
omg i was gonna give u the benefit of the doubt but now i am gonna downright debunk everything u just said. Yah the Hawks blew a 4-0 lead to ur team but ur team still managed to lose... congrats. First of all, the Hawks have had s*** defence ALL YEAR... and their goaltending has been pathetic so bragging about that to us Wings fans is very laughable... and Jimmy Howard is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better then Crawfard!!!!! You say Rinne is lightyears better than Jimmy well let me ask you something. Before Jimmy got injured back in Februrary did you know he was on pace to BEAT BRODEUR's record of wins in a single NHL season of 49?? I didn't see Rinne doing that.
- Like I said you have a well balanced team, but you simply do NOT have the lethal offensive power stars that the Wings do so don't pretend that you can match that.
- Honestly if you are gonna come to these forums, at least raise truthful points, not just jibberish that makes Nashville fans look bad.
Sorry let me specify... you dont have much experience WINNING IN THE PLAYOFFS. By no means do I want to make you think I am disrespecting your team because I am not, in fact I respect them very much for how they have built a solid team out of nothing. But you match up their experience of winning big games in the playoffs next to the Wings experience of winning and you get what I mean. I understand the argument that you guys have Weber and Suter... but we have Nicklas Lidstrom who imo is still the best all around dman in the world... especially in big time games.
Next to Lidstrom, we have a better core of Dmen then the Preds too in White, Kronners, Stuart, Ericsson and Quincy. You guys have a good D core too, but ours is just more experienced and better at both areas of the ice.
Switch gears to the offence. Do I really need to get into this? Yah you guys got Radaolov back, Erat, Kostistyn brothers... but do you really think that they are better than the likes of Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg, Val Filpulla, Playoff mode Franzen?
The Preds play really well as a team, but I don't think they can match the Wings' playoff tempo. The preds have been playing playoff hockey all season long like the Blues, whereas the Wings were able to take several games off and still get wins. There is a big difference between regular season hockey and playoff hockey and I don't think the Preds will be able to switch to the gear that the Wings will and the Preds will have a difficult time containing our top 6 compared to us containing yours. It will be a great series and I expect every game will be close, but I predict the Wings will come out on top.
Since the lockout, both times the Wings did not open the playoffs against a team from the far West, they went on to the Stanley Cup Finals, winning in 08 and being screwed in 09. I fully believe that the Wings will be able to handle the Preds and if the Wings get feelign good about themselves they will become very dangerous. Personally I cant wait to hear Pierre Muguire pick Smashville to win the series, then list a whole bunch of nonsense reasons. Then after the Wings win the series, he will go on about how he will never bet against the Wings again and blah blah blah. GO WINGS
I find it amusing how almost everyone here and in the hockey world in general think that Preds are gonna beat the Wings... and more than that they act like the Preds are gonna run the Wings over. Well lets think about some things here.
- More proven team? The Wings
- More forward depth? The Wings
- More defense depth? The Wings (yes they have Sutter and Weber but guess what we have nick lidstrom and other dmen that are very effective... the Preds cannot say the same)
- Better goalie? The Preds (but Howard is still a very good goalie)
Clearly the Wings have the advantage in almost every aspect. We are superior down the middle, can create line combos that the Preds cannot compete with. Having said that, they are a very well defensively structured team. I think that Babs should start the playoffs with the lines we ended with today, meaning Eurotwins on the top line because I honestly do not think that the Preds can answer that. IT will be a hell of a good series, but I am saying Wings will win in 6 and upset almost everyone.
Lastly, I am happy everyone is saying the Wings are done because it takes the pressure off them and they can actually be the team to pull an "upset" for once. I am looking forward to this series and I truly think the Wings will come out on top.
Pavel with a sick move, JUST MISSED... Hudler better not be used anymore in shootouts would someone please like to tell me why Babcock uses him over FIL?!?!? ALso, sick move by Patty Kane gotta give him props for that. Overall I think the Wings will be ready for the playoffs:
- Mike Babcock, for the love of God PLEASE keep Datsyuk and Zetterberg on the same line, whether it be with Bertuzzi or Nyquist... the second that switch was made the Wings came alive
- Franzen is at least looking a lot more determined at TRYING to make plays so that is a positive sign
- Our PK has been fantastic lately and whether you wanna admit it or not, our powerplay has not been that bad either. Think about it, I am pretty sure we have hit at least 1 post on our powerplay over the course of the past 6 or 7 games, including 2 posts today... I think the Wings will get it together
- Though Jimmy had a little rebound trouble today, he looks primed and ready
Lastly, everyone is so worried about Nashville having to play in their building but dont forget the fact that almost every time we play in their building during the season is on the 2nd night of a back to back so we are tired... lets see how they fair against us when rested. It will be a great series but I do not think Nashville can withstand the Wings.