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#2527000 Ehrhoff or Niskanen

Posted by Nev on 29 June 2014 - 05:16 PM

Much depends on what kind of contract you're talking.

 

But Niskanen is younger, and he's a righty.  Promote Marchenko and we've suddenly got 2 RHD's and a LHD who can play on the right.

 

Kronwall - Smith

DeKeyser - Niskanen

Ericsson - Marchenko




#2526813 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Nev on 29 June 2014 - 03:21 AM

No source to show, I know someone close to Holland. I only get to talk to him maybe once a year though. That's why when I do, I get all kinds of info at once, just like last year. But their intentions are to trade pulkinnen in a package, they know he probably won't have a shot at making the team with nyquist Tatar jurco sheahan and mantha.
He will be traded before the end of the season in a package. Like it or not.

 

 

Source or no source, its pretty obvious there isn't a roster spot opening up anytime soon for him.  Same with Oullet/Sproul/Backman/Marchenko/Jensen - there is 1, maybe 2 spots on the roster coming up on D in the next few years, so some of them are going to have to be traded.  Save them for now, package them up when the right player becomes available on the trade market




#2526658 2014 draft thoughts.

Posted by Nev on 28 June 2014 - 01:15 PM

Wanted to go back and review this thread from the beginning. My first post was all about our strengths at G and D and the need for forwards. the second post was 3 targets for us to go after, one of which was larkin. Second year in a row that I had the draft pretty well nailed.

We ended up at 15, which back in January was the same spot. With our 7 picks we took 1 G and 6 forwards, all of which that are over 6ft tall. For years we had some crazy man crush on small players. The past 2-3 drafts we are finally drafting guys with modern NHL size. Overall great job by Holland and company!

Now we have no idea how any of these guys will turn out. The draft is all about getting value with each pick. This year we did it and didn't have any reaches. Very happy overall.

Once the season gets going again, I will still posting thoughts about the 2015 draft. But in about a week I will be taking a hockey break to enjoy the rest of the summer. waiting until the UFA period happens of course.

 

You answered your own point.  Many years the Wings haven't had a 1st rounder, when they did it was often nearer a 2nd rounder.  So they had to go for "value" .  That often meant smaller, skilled players, or bigger less skilled players.  Because the big, skilled players are gone by picks 10-15.  

 

You think a 6-3 Kronwall is available at 29?  A 6-0 Hudler at 58?  A 6-2 Filpulla at 95?  A 6-2 Nyquist at 121?  A 6-1 Tatar at 60?

 

Most of our bigger, less skilled players didn't work out, whereas we had more success with the smaller, skilled guys.  But the last few drafts the Wings have publicly said they know the pendulum swung too far that way.




#2525711 Adam Almquist signed with KHL club

Posted by Nev on 25 June 2014 - 01:10 PM

Everyone keeps bringing up Rafalski, but keeps forgetting that Rafalski could skate.  Almquist can't.  Remember Rafalski his last 2 years when his back and his knees went and he couldn't keep up?  It was painful to watch opponents repeatedly beat him round the outside because he had neither the size nor the speed to stop them.




#2523700 Doughty takes a shot at Sharks

Posted by Nev on 13 June 2014 - 11:51 AM

No idea what Doughty is talking about...

 

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#2522735 Adam Almquist says hes considering returning to Sweden to avoid AHL

Posted by Nev on 04 June 2014 - 11:42 AM

Brian Rafalski was 5-9 190lbs.

 

Brian Rafalski could skate.

 

And then look what happened to him the last couple of years when his knees and back gave up.  He still had the elite puck moving skills, but lack of size and inability to skate made him a defensive liability.




#2521022 WCF: (6) California Dreamin' v (5) The Night Chicago Died

Posted by Nev on 18 May 2014 - 02:55 AM

 

They'd be the first team since the Oilers to do that.  In this era, that's amazing.  

 

Actually, I think the way the cap works is changing.  Between lockouts 2 and 3 it was constant turmoil and teams only had a 2 or 3 year window to win the cup.  Now, all the best teams have all their star players locked up on 6, 7, 8 year contracts.  Because the cap will still keep going up they are able to afford to keep most of their good 2nd tier players which is what truly turns a team into a contender and the contending window is being pushed wider.

 

Anyway, reasons for wanting the Kings to win

 

1)  Because Detroit were the last team to win back to back cups.  Lets keep it that way.

 

2)  Kings wear black, white and silver these days, just as they should

 

3)  Because Detroit were the last team to win back to back cups.  Lets keep it that way.

 

4)  Daryl Suter is pure awesome

 

5)  Because Detroit were the last team to win back to back cups.  Lets keep it that way.

 

6)  Kopitar and Doughty don't get anywhere near enough recognition for their game because they play on the west coast.

 

7) Because Detroit were the last team to win back to back cups.  Lets keep it that way.




#2519933 Wings have the #1 & #2 most overpaid players (per point) in the NH

Posted by Nev on 10 May 2014 - 09:37 AM

I gave the shin pad assassin the benefit of the doubt when holland first signed him. A little pricey but had chemistry with the wings in the past. Then he was injured all season. Ok, could return to form yet, has playing experience with Weiss. Then he pooped the bed this season, so I'll eat the crow on that one. Terrible signing.

 

 

I could have forgiven the Sammy contract if it was just for 1 year.  A cheapish veteran stopgap.  But 2 years was just brutal.

 

Same with Bert.




#2519866 Do Maple Leaf fans deserve better?

Posted by Nev on 09 May 2014 - 02:36 PM

 

Well there you have it folks, any idiot can do what Burke does.  He's just a stupid, old, brainless, fart and all of his accomplishments across a long career were the product of pure unadulterated luck. 

 

Just lucked his way into an NHL executive job.  Lucked his way into a Stanely Cup.  Lucked his way into an Olympic Silver.  Luck, luck, luck. 

 

We should all be so lucky.

 

"All of his accomplishments"???  In 14 seasons as GM of Hartford, Vancouver, Anaheim and Toronto he failed to qualify for the playoffs 7 times!  He failed to get past the 1st round another 4 times.

 

That means in 14 seasons as GM he has gotten past the 1st round just 3 times.  Think about that, and not just the 07 Ducks.  He's 3 for 16 if you include the last 2 Leafs seasons with his players and his coach.

 

As for his Olympic silver, thats worth about as much as Hollands golds ie not a lot




#2519850 Do Maple Leaf fans deserve better?

Posted by Nev on 09 May 2014 - 12:48 PM

Jesus I hate the Toronto Maple Leafs.  These dumb bastards don't know which end is up.  If they'd just left Burke alone they wouldn't be in this mess and they're too dumb to know it.  All he ever did was bring the entire nucleus of their team together...including Kessel, Lupul, Van Riemsdyk, Phaneuf.  They were trending upward too, then they fire Burke and they've had two fantastically massive implosions in a row. 

 

f*** the Maple Leafs!

 

What?  This makes no sense whatsoever?  This "mess" is of Burke's making.  The players are Burke's, the coach is Burke's.  The Leafs failed to make the playoffs season after season under Burke.  The year he was fired, his team of players and his coach gave one of the most spectacular choke jobs of all time.  So 7 (?) seasons of Burke's Leafs, 1 playoff appearance, 1 first round exit.

 

 

However, he did have them moving in the right direction and history has shown that he can put together a winner if left alone

 

In Vancouver he did nothing.  In Anaheim, his patented strategy of throwing players at the wall and seeing who sticks, combined with the stars aligning (Niedermeyer falling into his lap, getting Beachamin a player he admitted he'd never heard of, Getzlaf and Perry on ELCs) for one season.  The following season he continued to throw players at the wall throwing piles of money at the likes of Bertuzzi and Schneider and through being "left alone" started to dismantle one of the best post lockout teams.

 

And in Toronto he continued to do nothing.  A huge bunch of trades, FA signings.....and the team is no better than they were 7 years ago.

 

But he likes fighters, and the Canadian media loves him, so he ends up with this massively over-blown reputation.




#2519724 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Nev on 08 May 2014 - 12:03 PM

 

Like he did last year with Nyquist and Tatar instead of Cleary, Sammy, or Bert?  Regardless of how you feel about this coaching, it's kinda hard to ignore the fact that Babs leans heavily on his veterans.  The chances of a vet losing a job to a rookie in training camp are pretty slim. 

 

Except all the vets are gone - Bert, Cleary and Sammy ain't coming back.  Babs is in Montreal watching Mantha for a reason, he's bigging him up in interviews for a reason (I love guys who are 6 foot 5 who can skate and shoot the puck), and that reason is because they think he can make the roster out of training camp.  Unless Holland makes a big trade or a splash in FA there are going to be 1 or 2 spots for Jurco and Mantha to scrap with the likes of Ferraro and Callahan for - of course, if its as the 13th forward, then Jurco and Mantha will be sent down.  Weiss isn't a Babcock old-time favourite either, so he'll happily bench him to play Mantha.

 

Babs has also repeatedly said that Backman will be on the roster next season, he sounds super excited about him.




#2519723 So what do we have to trade?

Posted by Nev on 08 May 2014 - 11:54 AM

Ideally you should always try to trade from a position of strength to fill a position of weakness. 

 

Our strengths?  Good young D prospects, and good young wingers (of the skilled but undersized variety).  We have SEVEN young D-men knocking on the door right now for maybe 2 spots in the next 5 years.  There isn't room for all of them, so we may as well flip them for something better.  Same at wing, unless we buy out Franzen and Weiss, and Alfie retires, and Mantha is a bust, there is just no place for Pulkinnen.

 

Our biggest weakness is a top-4 RHD.  There's a really interesting thread on HFBoards right now around trade proposals for a RHD to Detroit - unusually for HFBoards, its populated by sane fans of other teams making rational, reasoned proposals instead of the usual "Nyquist + Mantha + 1st for Edler" that wrecks the place.  Some examples:

 

Cody Franson for 3rd
Tatar + Ouellet for B. Schenn + L. Schenn
Pulkkinen + Ouellet for L. Schenn
Tatar + Ouellet + pick for Bogosian
Wideman for 3rd + Jensen
Wideman for 3rd + Nestasil
Byfuglin for Tatar + Ouellet
Byfuglin for Tatar + 1st
Niskanens rights for 3rd
Gardiner for Tatar + Frk
Shattenkirk for Nyquist
Jensen for 2nd
Wideman + 2nd for Mitch Callahan + 1st

 

None of these break the bank and upgrade the team.  To give one example - Tatar + Oullet for Byfuglin.  The loss of Tatar is easily replaced by Jurco and Mantha.  Losing Oullet only leaves us with Almquist, Backman, Marchenko, Sproul and Jensen - I mean, how will we cope with such a pitiful group of D prospects :rolleyes:

 

That one trade leaves us with something like

 

Jurco - Datsyuk - Alfie

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen

Abdelkader - Sheahan - Mantha

Miller - Helm - Glendening

Weiss

 

Kronwall - Smith

DeKeyser - Byfuglin

Ericsson - Marchenko/Backman




#2517649 What Happened to Nyquist?

Posted by Nev on 27 April 2014 - 02:34 PM

The Bruins' D gave him very little space and shut him down pretty well.  I think it had less to with him struggling effort-wise than it did having a lack of size and experience in the playoffs.  Not even the kid line was able to generate anything offensively.  It sucks to admit it, but Boston were just a superior team that was too big and firing on all cylinders. 

 

Pretty much this.  So much of his game is based on his speed, and he had no space to use it.  The Bruins are disciplined defensively, and at no point in the series where they chasing a game.

 

Its also I think that his style of play doesn't translate very well to the PP where you're stationary a lot.

 

I will say this though - if he'd been paired with a healthy Zetterberg things would have been very different for him.




#2517547 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by Nev on 27 April 2014 - 08:10 AM

Yes, without him we may not have got into the playoffs.  We were ravaged by injuries and desperately needed a C.  We only just squeeked in as the 8th seed as it was.

 

That we would get ROFLstomped by the Bruins, and Legwand would end up as the 4th line RW could not have been forseen.  The most important thing is to make it to the dance - you can't win the raffle if you won't buy a ticket.

 

Plus, there's the rumours of pressure from the Ilitch's to make the playoffs for $$$ reasons.  Even a first round exit is worth about $4M.




#2517546 Wings Roster great on paper ?

Posted by Nev on 27 April 2014 - 08:04 AM

We still desperately need a no 1 D.

 

We have a #1 D, he's called Niklas Kronwall.

 

Unless by #1 D, you actually mean franchise D-man.  In which case your options are limited to:  Chara, Weber, Suter, Doughty, Karlsson, Subban, OEL, Keith, Pieterangelo.  Now tell me how you plan to get them.............