The guy is one of the best players on the team. Very underrated, drafted and developed in house. If he won't take 3.5-4 million, then gonna have to let him go. Letting Hudler go was a HUGE mistake, and it will be a HUGE mistake to let Flipulla go too. The Red Wings waste so much cap space on people who don't even play, they can afford to overpay a player by a million here or there.
In a cap world, letting Hudler go was not a mistake, it was precisely the right thing to do. And in a cap world, letting Filpulla go is also absolutely the right thing to do. Flip is now an UFA, and UFAs are overpaid, because desperate GMs sign them to desperate contracts, driving up the price of UFAs everywhere. Over-paying for role/depth players is the cardinal sin of the cap world.
I like Flip, I've always liked him, and I've always defended him. He's been a good player for us, but now is the right time to let him go. He's going to get $4-5M a year from some GM, and with our pipeline of good, young, CHEAP, prospects we can afford to let him go.
Nothing against him, but stay away from Briere please. Wings are going to get younger, bigger Briere doesn't match the new direction.
The Flyers are really handeling their players like crap at some point this will come back and haunt them.
It already came back and haunted them when they missed the playoffs. Honestly, all the Wings fans who want to fire Holland + Babs, who want to trade/waive/buyout everyone who isn't' Pav or Hank, who want to sign every FA under the sun - take a looong hard look at Philly (and NYR).
Throwing players at the wall and seeing who sticks just doesn't work. Philly management, fans and media have yet to work that out. No roster stability or continuity, a couple of random playoff runs and 20 years of underachievement.
Horton is awesome. Boston will not let him go, so cancel plans for him.
Boston have 18 players signed for next year with only $4M cap space. Rask is an RFA, and 2/3 of their line-up have NTCs . They're going to have to do some major roster surgery to sign Rask AND Horton AND fill out their roster.
No way Cleary can re-sign. Even if they amnesty Sammy, that still leaves us with 14 forwards assuming we re-sign Nyquist, Andersson, and Brunner. They could waive, amnesty, or trade Emmy to make room for Cleary....but why on Earth would you make room for Cleary. This is of course also banking on Helm being healthy next year as well. I'm not so sure they are 100% convinced about that yet.
Why? Because he was 2nd in points in the playoffs? Because he's an absolute warrior? A veteran leader on the bench and in the locker room on an increasingly young team? Said it before, as a 13th forward, playing ~40 games, <10min per game I'd be more than happy to re-sign Cleary.
Emmerton is expendable. With a healthy Helm he's 5th on the depth chart at centre, and if we get injuries, Franzen and Abdelkader can centre top-six/bottom-six respectively. Not to mention we might want to give guys like Sheahan a few games when we get injuries. Emmerton can be waived/sent down/traded for no loss. We got too many bodies pushing for a spot, and Emmerton just ain't good enough to cut the mustard. Sorry kid.
All this talk of $1.5-2M, its no wonder people slag off KH so much when they have such unrealistic expectations. He is an UNRESTRICTED free agent. Y'know, those guys that desperate GMs give huge contracts to?
If we can get him for $2.5M that would be amazeballs.
Proven nothing? I don't know if you missed the playoffs this year, but for those of us who watched it saw HUGE growth in our young guys from start to finish. Nyquist was fantastic. Brunner was fantastic. Smith and Kindl struggled at times, but also had moments where they showed growth. We all know Danny D is going to be a stud and I personally believe if we had him playing we would have beaten the Hawks.
But to say that our prospects and young guys have showed nothing is simply ridiculous. Yes, Malkin has won an MVP and has put up a ton of points. But why on God's earth would you trade away guys who showed so much growth in just these playoffs? Nyquist is going to be a stud. In 2002, when Pavel Datsyuk showed signs of brilliance, should we have traded him to get a guy like Jagr? No, because we saw that he was coming into his own, much like our young guys now. Nyquist will not be Pavel Datsyuk, but there is no reason to say that we won't be something special for years to come. Have some faith, believe in the system because when everyone wrote the Wings off this year, they just kept coming because they believe in their system.
For most players I would agree with you. But this is Evgeni frikken Malkin. How often do players of that calibre become (potentially) available? Especialy in the cap world were star players get locked up on long contracts? If we could get him for picks and prospects I say go for it, especially because of our deep pool of prospects. Fact is, we've almost got too many - they can't all play. I honestly expect KH to do something this off season, whether its trading up in the 1st round, or picking off a juicy RFA, just to de-clog the pipeline.
Dats is 34, Hank is 32, Malkin is 26. If we do a trade + sign, we get 7-8 prime years of one of the top-3 players in the game.