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#2419616 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by Nev on 13 June 2013 - 12:33 AM

All this talk of $1.5-2M, its no wonder people slag off KH so much when they have such unrealistic expectations.  He is an UNRESTRICTED free agent.  Y'know, those guys that desperate GMs give huge contracts to?


If we can get him for $2.5M that would be amazeballs.

#2419334 Red Wings Lineups for Other Sports

Posted by Nev on 12 June 2013 - 02:00 AM

OK, here's my attempt


G:  Howard  - obvious


RB: Eaves - shortage of rightys, but works hard and good defensively

CB: Ericsson - Vidic stlye stopper centre-half

CB: Dekeyser - Ferdinand style ball playing centre-half

LB: Kronwall - Big shot and big hits, a Stuart Pearce style left back


DMC:  Andersson - sits in front of the back 4 and protects them.


MC: Nyquist - more of winger in a 4-4-2 formation, but has the skills to succeed in centre mid.

MC: Helm - energiser bunny.  Harries the opposition, wins the ball, and gives it to Hank;)

MC: Zetterberg - hard working, defensively responsible, and skilled to boot.  The ideal central midfielder


AMC: Datsyuk.  He is Messi on skates, right? 


CF: Bertuzzi.  Great for holding the ball up, bringing others into the play.

#2418780 2013 Stanley Cup Finals - Boston Bruins vs. Chicago Blackhawks

Posted by Nev on 09 June 2013 - 03:45 AM

All aboard the Bruins bandwagon!

#2418625 What would you give up for Malkin?

Posted by Nev on 08 June 2013 - 05:06 PM


Proven nothing? I don't know if you missed the playoffs this year, but for those of us who watched it saw HUGE growth in our young guys from start to finish. Nyquist was fantastic. Brunner was fantastic. Smith and Kindl struggled at times, but also had moments where they showed growth. We all know Danny D is going to be a stud and I personally believe if we had him playing we would have beaten the Hawks. 


But to say that our prospects and young guys have showed nothing is simply ridiculous. Yes, Malkin has won an MVP and has put up a ton of points. But why on God's earth would you trade away guys who showed so much growth in just these playoffs? Nyquist is going to be a stud. In 2002, when Pavel Datsyuk showed signs of brilliance, should we have traded him to get a guy like Jagr? No, because we saw that he was coming into his own, much like our young guys now. Nyquist will not be Pavel Datsyuk, but there is no reason to say that we won't be something special for years to come. Have some faith, believe in the system because when everyone wrote the Wings off this year, they just kept coming because they believe in their system. 


For most players I would agree with you.  But this is Evgeni frikken Malkin.  How often do players of that calibre become (potentially) available?  Especialy in the cap world were star players get locked up on long contracts?  If we could get him for picks and prospects I say go for it, especially because of our deep pool of prospects.  Fact is, we've almost got too many - they can't all play.  I honestly expect KH to do something this off season, whether its trading up in the 1st round, or picking off a juicy RFA, just to de-clog the pipeline.


Dats is 34, Hank is 32, Malkin is 26.  If we do a trade + sign, we get 7-8 prime years of one of the top-3 players in the game.

#2418519 Mike Babcock Chainsaw Commercial

Posted by Nev on 08 June 2013 - 03:20 AM

Such a shame we're out the playoffs, this is photoshop gold! :lol:

#2418149 If Hossa gets bought out..

Posted by Nev on 06 June 2013 - 11:58 AM


I've been hearing that they have to go through waivers before becoming a UFA. I'm trying to find an article to showcase it but honestly can't. I could be absolutely wrong though


No, I believe that was a one-off thing before the start of this season.  Summers 2013 and 2014 any compliance buyouts go straight to UFA.


And for the record, Marian Hossa's highest goal total in the last 7 seasons was 40 goals in 2008-09.....when he played with Pavel Datsyuk.

#2417521 ECF - (4) Boston Bruins vs. (1) Pittsburgh Penguins

Posted by Nev on 04 June 2013 - 12:36 AM

It's funny to me how we are cheering them now, but Boston may turn out to be our biggest rival next year.


The enemy of my enemy is my friend :)

#2417520 Potential Players being Bought Out This Summer

Posted by Nev on 04 June 2013 - 12:30 AM

I wonder if Tampa will buy out Lecavalier.  Chicago might buy out Hossa too.

#2416526 Standing pat according to Malik

Posted by Nev on 31 May 2013 - 11:46 AM

We hope to have a healthy Todd Bertuzzi. We hope to have a healthy Mikael Samuelsson. You can look forward to September 2013, and think we are going to have a real good competition” at training camp.



So this quote has me worried a bit, the Wings are one of the richest teams in the league why not use the money to their advantage?



I got to admit, when I first read that, my heart sank.  Its like all the doom and gloom predictions of the Holland Bashers coming true.  It is however worth noting the "I think we are going to have a real good competition at training camp" line which implies if they don't earn their place on the roster they'll be waived.  Its also worth noting that Sammy requires surgery on his pectoral injury, and if he's on IR, he can't be bought out....


But there's more to it than that.  This article says that Bickell and Stalberg, amongst others, have long been on the Wings radar.  Well, we can't sign them without cap space and roster room, and we're already over-populated at forward....


There's also thisvery interesting interview with Holland which I recommend everyone to read.  Some choice quotes


We had traded eight first-round draft picks from ’95 to ’05 — Keith Primeau, who was a first, plus a first, for Paul Coffey. Anders Eriksson, who was a first and two more firsts for Chris Chelios. A first-round pick, Kozlov, for Dominik Hasek. We traded a first and (Tomas) Fleischman for Robert Lang. And we traded a first and somebody else for Mathieu Schneider.

Since then, we’ve hung on to more picks, to get more spins at the wheel



Would we like to be bigger, would we like to be harder? Yeah. But it’s hard to address every need. We’re trying to steer a little bit to get a little bit bigger, but the decisions you make at the draft come to fruition six or seven years later.


#2416443 Wow... Danny Cleary

Posted by Nev on 31 May 2013 - 12:34 AM

I want him to stay. He's an example. Look at edmonton. All the talent in the world with no one to look up to...bottom dwellers.




Who do you want our youngsters to learn from?  Cleary with his "this is the price you must be prepared to pay" attitude, or Franzen with his "have a couple of decent seasons and coast into retirement on your lifetime contract" attitude.


I would take Cleary back - at a reduced salary - as the 12/13th forward.  Rotate him in and out of the line-up, limit his minutes, ready for the playoffs.

#2416015 WCSF Game 7 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Blackhawks 2 OT (CHI wins series, 4-3)

Posted by Nev on 30 May 2013 - 07:30 AM

Trying like heck to stifle my emotions. After all, the guys that just choked away a 3-1 game lead will wake up tomorrow, continue to receive their million dollar checks throughout the summer, and drive their luxury suv's to the finest golf courses money can buy, while the rest of us will have to get up tomorrow, go to our s*** jobs, and have to remain civil throughout the day, knowing that if we screw up something even a fraction of a degree as bad as some of the Wings did, we'll get our asses fired. Get pissed? You bet! Get sad and weepy? Hell no!


You do realise only 1 team can win, right?  And that that doesn't mean the other 29 teams are all failures whose players all deserve to be sacked.  The Hawks are a better team than us.  That doesn't mean they "care" more, it just means they have better players.


Go ask Philly and Rangers fans how the "win the Stanley Cup or everyone gets traded/bought out/sacked" approach has worked for them the last 20 years.

#2415994 This is what tonights winner will have to deal with

Posted by Nev on 30 May 2013 - 06:15 AM

Wow.  Just wow.  And that clip of McLellan complaining to the refs that the diving motion is making his players look bad????  That's just shameful.  Honestly, how the head coach of a top NHL team could have the lack of shame to do that?


I do feel sorry for the refs when they have to try and sift the dives from the penalties, but until they start calling Couture et al for diving, the players are going to keep on doing it.

#2414225 Interesting stat

Posted by Nev on 29 May 2013 - 06:00 AM

And as I just read elsewhere, 4 of the 5 teams remaining have at least one top 3 pick on their roster.  Some have more than one ;)


Guess which is the odd team out? :P

#2414214 WCSF Game 7 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Blackhawks 2 OT (CHI wins series, 4-3)

Posted by Nev on 29 May 2013 - 03:54 AM

Pav and Hank, we need you to turn up tonight. 


And The Mule, be nice if you we could get a rare spotting of you tonight.


And Flip, do you want your 588th and last game in a Red Wing jersey to be a game 7 loss? 


Dan.  Daniel.  Danny.  This could be your last game in red too, but I know we can rely on you to leave every last ounce of what is left of your broken down, beaten up, falling apart at the seams, clapped out, knackered old body on the ice.


Oh, and don't stop believing.


#2412516 WCSF Game 6 GDT- Blackhawks 4 @ Red Wings 3, - (Series tied 3-3)

Posted by Nev on 27 May 2013 - 12:50 PM

More nervous for this game than any so far in the playoffs.  


Its because, for the first time this post-season the Wings are actually under pressure.  Game 7 against Anaheim, we'd already exceeded expectations and everyone was happy.


We shall light the beacons to signal a Red Wings victory to you.  Godspeed weary traveller of ye old European mountainside



I don't have the talent for it, but there is some serious photoshop/gif potential in that scene.