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#2519723 So what do we have to trade?

Posted by Nev on 08 May 2014 - 11:54 AM

Ideally you should always try to trade from a position of strength to fill a position of weakness. 


Our strengths?  Good young D prospects, and good young wingers (of the skilled but undersized variety).  We have SEVEN young D-men knocking on the door right now for maybe 2 spots in the next 5 years.  There isn't room for all of them, so we may as well flip them for something better.  Same at wing, unless we buy out Franzen and Weiss, and Alfie retires, and Mantha is a bust, there is just no place for Pulkinnen.


Our biggest weakness is a top-4 RHD.  There's a really interesting thread on HFBoards right now around trade proposals for a RHD to Detroit - unusually for HFBoards, its populated by sane fans of other teams making rational, reasoned proposals instead of the usual "Nyquist + Mantha + 1st for Edler" that wrecks the place.  Some examples:


Cody Franson for 3rd
Tatar + Ouellet for B. Schenn + L. Schenn
Pulkkinen + Ouellet for L. Schenn
Tatar + Ouellet + pick for Bogosian
Wideman for 3rd + Jensen
Wideman for 3rd + Nestasil
Byfuglin for Tatar + Ouellet
Byfuglin for Tatar + 1st
Niskanens rights for 3rd
Gardiner for Tatar + Frk
Shattenkirk for Nyquist
Jensen for 2nd
Wideman + 2nd for Mitch Callahan + 1st


None of these break the bank and upgrade the team.  To give one example - Tatar + Oullet for Byfuglin.  The loss of Tatar is easily replaced by Jurco and Mantha.  Losing Oullet only leaves us with Almquist, Backman, Marchenko, Sproul and Jensen - I mean, how will we cope with such a pitiful group of D prospects :rolleyes:


That one trade leaves us with something like


Jurco - Datsyuk - Alfie

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen

Abdelkader - Sheahan - Mantha

Miller - Helm - Glendening



Kronwall - Smith

DeKeyser - Byfuglin

Ericsson - Marchenko/Backman

#2517649 What Happened to Nyquist?

Posted by Nev on 27 April 2014 - 02:34 PM

The Bruins' D gave him very little space and shut him down pretty well.  I think it had less to with him struggling effort-wise than it did having a lack of size and experience in the playoffs.  Not even the kid line was able to generate anything offensively.  It sucks to admit it, but Boston were just a superior team that was too big and firing on all cylinders. 


Pretty much this.  So much of his game is based on his speed, and he had no space to use it.  The Bruins are disciplined defensively, and at no point in the series where they chasing a game.


Its also I think that his style of play doesn't translate very well to the PP where you're stationary a lot.


I will say this though - if he'd been paired with a healthy Zetterberg things would have been very different for him.

#2517547 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by Nev on 27 April 2014 - 08:10 AM

Yes, without him we may not have got into the playoffs.  We were ravaged by injuries and desperately needed a C.  We only just squeeked in as the 8th seed as it was.


That we would get ROFLstomped by the Bruins, and Legwand would end up as the 4th line RW could not have been forseen.  The most important thing is to make it to the dance - you can't win the raffle if you won't buy a ticket.


Plus, there's the rumours of pressure from the Ilitch's to make the playoffs for $$$ reasons.  Even a first round exit is worth about $4M.

#2517546 Wings Roster great on paper ?

Posted by Nev on 27 April 2014 - 08:04 AM

We still desperately need a no 1 D.


We have a #1 D, he's called Niklas Kronwall.


Unless by #1 D, you actually mean franchise D-man.  In which case your options are limited to:  Chara, Weber, Suter, Doughty, Karlsson, Subban, OEL, Keith, Pieterangelo.  Now tell me how you plan to get them.............

#2517544 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by Nev on 27 April 2014 - 07:54 AM

I agree Ericsson is over paid. He hustled us because we absolutely needed him. So much for hometown discount. If we ever get a true top pairing defensemen to play with Kronwall, Ericsson would look like a run of the mill average 2nd pairing guy but thankfully he's paid like a top line defensemen for many years.



Not even remotely.  Experienced top-4 defencemen are the most highly sought after commodity on the market, and are paid accordingly when they hit UFA, as per the rules of supply and demand.  Just watch how much Quincey will get on the open market this summer - most likely over $4M.

#2515947 Grand Rapids Griffins - defend the cup

Posted by Nev on 26 April 2014 - 06:54 AM

Backman, Sproul, Almquist, Jensen, Oulette, Marchenko... Can we play any combination of these guys instead of Kindl and Lashoff?


Can we keep the bitching and moaning about the Wings roster to the multitude of threads devoted to bitching and moaning about the Wings roster?

#2514665 Do you want Jonas Gustavsson re-signed?

Posted by Nev on 24 April 2014 - 12:26 PM

No.  He simply isn't reliable enough health-wise.  What's the point in having a back-up who is injured half the year?


Not to mention we'll only offer him a 1 year deal, and chances are he'll get a 2 year deal somewhere else.


Mrazek is ready to be given an opportunity.

#2514662 Bertuzzi in, Jurco out

Posted by Nev on 24 April 2014 - 12:21 PM


This! Although at this point I wouldn't mind seeing Tatar sit a game instead of Jurco with all the penalties he has been taking. Tats needs to calm down.


I was gunna say, the OP spelt Tatar wrong.  Not just the penalties, but constantly turning the puck over and too easily muscled off the puck.


I love Tats, but he's not found a groove at all in the first 3 games.

#2512911 Caption the photo

Posted by Nev on 21 April 2014 - 02:46 PM


#2511370 2014 Round 1 Photoshop War: Boston Bruins

Posted by Nev on 19 April 2014 - 03:43 AM

Some great ones posted on the Wings FB page, I'm not taking credit for any of them, just copy + paste....





#2511369 4/18 ECQF Game 1 GDT: Red Wings 1 @ Bruins 0. DET leads series 1-0

Posted by Nev on 19 April 2014 - 03:40 AM


#2509395 Poll: Who was the Wings regular season MVP

Posted by Nev on 13 April 2014 - 03:32 PM

I'm sure someone will be along soon enough with the end of season grades, but in the meantime, here's your chance to vote for your MVP.


Now, before you all rush off and vote for Nyquist, let me remind you of two things.  One, the season began in October, not after the Winter Olympics.  Two, a win in October is worth 2 points, just like a win in March.


Right, onto the options


1)  Daniel Alfredsson.  68GP, 18-31-49, +2.  Joint top scorer.


2)  Niklas Kronwall.  79GP, 8-41-49, Even.  Joint top scorer, 10th in league scoring by defenceman.


3)  Gustav Nyquist.  57GP, 28-20-48, +16


4)  Henrik Zetterberg.  45GP, 16-32-48, +19.  2nd in league scoring before his back issues first flared up.


5)  Jimmy Howard.  21-19-11, 2.66 GAA, 0.910 SV%


6)  Jonas Gustavsson.  16-5-4, 2.63 GAA, 0.907 SV%


Now obviously Nyquist is going to be the popular vote for what he did down the stretch, but we have to remember that Zetterberg was in beast mode before Christmas.  Remember when he (with Z and Alfie) was our only offence, and if they didn't have 3 point nights, we didn't win?


However, for me, the MVP has to be Kronwall.  Through all the injuries to the captain, and every other Alternate to boot, he has become the de facto leader of this team.  In the locker room, in front of the media, and on the ice, Kronner has been front and center.  He's had a great year offensively, and for all the hate about his defensive play was still even.

#2507648 4/9 GDT - Red Wings 3 @ Pens 4 (SO). Wings clinch playoff spot!

Posted by Nev on 09 April 2014 - 12:40 PM

For all the fear on this board of the Bruins, Neal's elbows scare me far more than Lucic's fists.

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#2505761 4/4 GDT - Sabres 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Nev on 04 April 2014 - 01:26 PM

Wings win 14-3.  Datsyuk with a goal and 13 assists.

#2504565 4/2 GDT - Bruins 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Nev on 02 April 2014 - 12:16 PM

All I'm asking for is no more injuries and Pasha as much as I'd love having you back please sit out this game, it will be an ugly one regardless.


No way this team can go toe with Boston which isn't a shame, only a select few in the West can.


Thornton, McQuaid, Lucic and Chara...may god help us


FFS, we  hear this crap before every Boston game, and yet we've beaten them home and away this season.