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#2043000 Pavel Datsyuk has a Gordie Howe Hattrick

Posted by Nev on 09 October 2010 - 11:28 AM

Check out the Ducks feed, watch their players on the bench, only 2 or 3 of them are tapping their sticks against the boards........I guess the rest of them are just plain embaressed.

#2037595 Is Mike Modano This Year's Dallas Drake?

Posted by Nev on 28 September 2010 - 12:39 AM

Drake brought intensity every game and simply destroyed the opposition with his hitting. But he only had 1 goal and 3 assists so it doesn't surprise me that the impact he had on the ice is diminished by some on this board. :thumbdown:


He was a role player. An important role player, but a role player nevertheless. Babcock liked to get him on the ice a lot in the 1st period to "set the tone", but in terms of importance to the team he was behind at least *deep breath* Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Holmstrom, Franzen, Filpulla, Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall, Stuart and of course Osgood.

He's in the Cleary/Hudler/Draper/Helm cluster, and I can't be bothered to rank their contributions because there's no point. The whole team was a machine that year, Drake was just one of many well oiled cogs.

#2035134 Bad Rep Immunity Thread

Posted by Nev on 22 September 2010 - 12:30 AM

Our PP is our enforcer.

#2034161 Who will be the whipping boys for '10-'11?

Posted by Nev on 18 September 2010 - 02:31 AM

Is that possible? Remember 2008 when we were simply awesome in the regular season, arguably better than in 96? Lilja was a bum, Filpulla & Hudler would never be NHLers, Drake was a waste of a roster spot....and who can forget the Ozzie/Hasek flame wars?

I think you overestimate the maturity of the average interwebz user.

#2033608 Draper's face after The Turtle boarded him

Posted by Nev on 16 September 2010 - 12:48 AM

Vernon and Roy!

One of the great calls in Redwings history :thumbup:

#2033235 Babcock's Take

Posted by Nev on 14 September 2010 - 11:17 AM

The other thing I think when I read this interview is a something Pat Riley said when he was coach of the Knicks - "I never said anything to the media that wasn't meant to be a message for my players"

#2032936 Who will be the whipping boys for '10-'11?

Posted by Nev on 13 September 2010 - 12:54 AM

I think Rafalski is my favourite. The last few years he's shown flashes of what he's capable, I think this could be his breakout year.

#2029934 Ericsson: "I need to perform this year"

Posted by Nev on 28 August 2010 - 11:10 AM

He needed to perform last year, and the year before that. I'm pretty annoyed at players that play balls to the wall during their contract year. It gives the impression that they were half-assing it in previous years. I mean I understand that players want to make the most $$ they can. But if you're a professional athlete, getting paid to do your job, you should be playing balls to the wall every night, every season.

That being said, I definitely hope big E kicks it into another gear this season. Even if it's financially motivated, I'll be happy to see the Wings give him a pay raise if he steps it up and plays like a beast. Although it still annoys me that this magical new "gear" didn't exist until potential big $$ comes into the picture.

I don;t think his problem last year was lack of effort - it was lack of confidence leading to mistakes & brain-farts

#2029874 Ericsson: "I need to perform this year"

Posted by Nev on 28 August 2010 - 02:33 AM

lolz at Babcock ringing him while he was partying in Vegas :o I bet he $hit himself!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

#2024265 #24 should be retired? But to who?

Posted by Nev on 09 August 2010 - 11:22 AM


But you know what, Probert has had his retirement moment at the Joe - when #19 got retired. The response from the fans then was of far more value to him then, than retiring his number is now.

#2020307 Goal Celebration

Posted by Nev on 29 July 2010 - 12:56 AM

That would be reason 2589714301293572314123094123894723512893057 I hate SOCCER (notice I put soccer in caps lock because people for some reason say futbol and go out of their way to correct North Americans when they say soccer, even though the game was originally called soccer, but was given the nickname "futbol" by lower class citizens in England)

Mate, get your facts right before you go on an ignorant rant.

The full name of the sport is Association Football. In the 19th century the sport became extremely popular amongst the working class. The upper class preferred to play Rugby Football (aka Rugby Union). They referred to Association Football as "Soccer" as an insult, sneering and looking down their noses as they did so. That's why brits especially get their noses so put out of joint when people start calling it Soccer.

That snobbery still exists today at certain schools, some of which only have a Rugby XV and no football team, or you're not allowed to play for the football team unless you are in the Rugby team.

Toby - you were nearly right.

#2005172 1st Round Pick (21), Riley Sheahan

Posted by Nev on 26 June 2010 - 12:01 PM

My friend goes to the gym twice a day for a couple of hours in the offseason. He's not allowed to have a break from his crazy workout routine on weekends by having some beers with his friends?

Especially in the offseason, I can't see how drinking would affect you any worse then eating fast food or something like that. For all we know this couldve been this guys first time drinking and he didn't know how to hide it so he got busted.

I've heard top dieticians say that it can take up to a fortnight to work booze out of the system....if drinking weren't such a big deal, why did he fall from a predicted 5th to 21st? That's the difference between being a sure-fire NHLer and could end up playing in the British Elite League (as happened to my wife's ex, who was drafted 15th overall IIRC).

And for what its worth, I wouldn't want any of our players eating fast food either. I used to cringe when I'd read Kronwall talking about heading to McDonalds. Thankfully he's not said that for a couple of years, so I hope he's had that beaten out of him.

Proffesional sport is a short, highly competetive career with enormous rewards. If it were me I wouldn't do *anything* to jeopordise that.

#2005151 1st Round Pick (21), Riley Sheahan

Posted by Nev on 26 June 2010 - 11:23 AM

Because when they are 17 you really expect them to not drink? A kid who I played on a line with last year is playing with the london knights this season, had 44 goals in like 40 games last season and he still drinks. One of my better friends growing up as a kid, lives 3 minutes down the road, plays for the Sarnia Sting, he'll drink and will throw in a lipper at a party. As long as they aren't drinking the night before a game who really cares?

Making it in the pros - in any sport - is a whole different level. If your mate really knuckled down and dedicated his body to hockey who knows what he might achieve. You don't have to be an alcoholic for booze to derail your career, and it can generally reflect upon your off-ice work ethic in general. As Sir Alex Ferguson, one of the greatest coaches ever, in any sport says "Show me the evidence that beer makes you a better player, and I'll let you drink beer". Many a proffesional sportsman has identified the turning point in their career as the moment they stopped boozing and started looking after their bodies.

It just worries me that in Abdelkader, Smith and Sheahan we have 3 players who we hope to be the cornerstone of our franchise in 5 years that have all had booze related off-ice problems.

#1998481 Chris Chelios

Posted by Nev on 12 June 2010 - 03:36 AM

I don't think Cheli is going to be one of those ex-players who wonders if he retired too early :D

#1998480 Fire sale in Chicago?

Posted by Nev on 12 June 2010 - 03:33 AM

Boy, you guys sure do like talking about the Blackhawks.

I'll admit though, it's interesting hearing you guys try to talk yourself into thinking that the Blackhawks will suck this year.

A point nobody is bringing up - the Hawks are going to absolutely load up their system in the returns they get for these guys. The guys they're going to be trading had very good value right now.

Really what we're looking at next year for the Hawks is a team that is still part of a group of about 6-8 teams that has a chance to win a Cup. The stars are more important than the depth, and that's all the Hawks are losing.... depth. Will they even lose one of their top 10 players this offseason?

Hawks best 10 players, in no specific order


Most likely, they won't lose any of those guys. Maybe Bolland. So yeah, the Hawks will be losing depth more than anything else. Will this offseason hurt them? Absolutely. But to act like they aren't going to be a Cup contender next season seems pretty silly to me.

What will happen is they'll spend the next couple years as one of 6-8 teams that has a chance to win a cup, then will be in great shape again after that. Their system is going to be loaded, and the money situation will be better.

But hey, if you guys want to say things like "the hits keep on coming", go right ahead. I'm sure the Stanley Cup championship this year was worth sitting through a horrrrrible 100-105 point season next year.

I don't quite think you realise the depth of your problem - you have just 14 players signed for ~$58M. ie you're right at the cap and 8-9 players short of a roster. Add to that the bonuses due to Toews + Kane and suddenly you're ~$4M OVER the cap and you're STILL 8-9 players short of a roster! You need to waive/trade Huet just to get back beneath the cap (and now you're 9-10 players short with no goalie).

Forget about re-signing your RFA's for the moment, if every player you sign from now on is on Minimum Salary you still need to create another ~$5M in cap room to do that. Obviously Campbell is the albatross hanging round your neck right now, but he has an NTC so you can only waive or buy him out. If you waive him, you're paying a guy $7.1M a season for the next 6 years to play in the minors (and I'm sure the NHLPA will have something to say about that), although you might get lucky and someone might be prepared to pick him up on waivers. Or you can buy him out and have a saving of ~$4.8M, but a cap hit of $2.4M for the next 12 (TWELVE) years, and now you're 10-11 players short of a roster. You're almost enough below the cap to fill out your team with min salary players but you have only 3 defencemen and no goalie.

You listed Hjalmarsson and Niemmi in your core 10, but they are both RFAs earning $0.6M + $0.8M respectively and you have no spare money to re-sign them with the raise they deserve. If you want to keep them the only way to find the money is to trade one of Sharp/Bolland/Versteeg/Butmuffin (and now they need to be replaced too). Can you even afford to offer your RFAs offer sheets? What if no-one else offers them a contract? Now you're left with even more players you can't afford. And good luck keeping Seabrook the year after that.

Look, we all knew this was coming from the second Chicago signed Hossa - everyone on here said the same thing "Chicago better win the cup this year cos they're screwed after that". Congrats, you managed it but you're about to find out what Anaheim, Detroit and Pittsburgh found out about winning the cup - the key is good players on Entry Level Contracts which allow you to fill out your roster with decent players.

Anaheim - Perry + Getzlaf on ELCs
Detroit - Zetterberg, Cleary, Franzen, Filpulla, Hudler, Sammuelsson all earning MUCH less than they are now
Pittsburgh - byebye Scuderi, Gill etc, hello worst set of wingers in the NHL.
Chicago - Toews + Kane on ELCs

Right now its hard to say whether you can do a Detroit and remain a contender, or slip down the Anaheim/Tampa Bay top-heavy garbage chute. As Ken Holland said last year "there's only so many minimum salary guys you want on your team".