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#1976084 Jiri Hudler, the answer to all of our prayers

Posted by eva unit zero on 04 May 2010 - 11:38 PM

you guys DO realize Huds will be making 3.5 mil a year right? Thats a lot of mullah for an already cap tight team. Is he really worth it? I personally dont see him making any difference. I'd honestly rather trade his rights away, and use that 3.5 mil for some better assets.

Since when did he get a raise from the 2-year, $2.875m deal he was given in arbitration that he will be coming back to? And how did he manage it, for that matter?

And BTW...there are no better players than Hudler making his cap hit who are available on the free agent market. Before you say "Yeah, but what about the money we're getting back if Lidstrom takes a pay cut or retires?" I will respond with "Hudler is replacing Jason Williams, who costs $1.5m" so that's only a $1.375m increase and it's likely that Holmstrom will take a pay cut if he returns, further reducing that. If Bertuzzi negotiates a deal, he'll likely ask for around $2.5m-$3m so I don't know if he'll be back.

But regardless, who do you suggest we sign for $2.875m that is a UFA instead of having young, soon-to-be-prime top-line caliber scoring forward Hudler who can also play above-average defense? I can't wait to hear the response to this. It might be someone as good as RJ Umberger or Matt Cullen!

#1971905 No Worries

Posted by Electrophile on 02 May 2010 - 10:44 PM

I'm glad you're not worried but I am. I'm not saying we're going to get swept or something, just that we're in a lot of trouble. The hole we dug for ourselves (with the refs supplying the backhoe) isn't helping matters.

#1951060 How will this series end predictions

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 20 April 2010 - 01:28 AM

In only Hudler were here! Then we'd have won in three!

If Hudler was here,we would have annihilated them in game 1 and they would have quit the series :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

#1951057 How will this series end predictions

Posted by Guest on 20 April 2010 - 01:18 AM

If Howard gives up another soft, badly timed goal, and Babcock goes to Ozzie, then Wings in 6.

If Howie gives up another softie at a bad time and stays in, Phoenix in 6.

If Howie holds tight and plays well, Wings in 6.

In only Hudler were here! Then we'd have won in three!

#1950520 Off-Day: Here's what I want to see next season

Posted by Carman on 19 April 2010 - 10:07 AM


Thanks blueadams, your line threads help the Red Wings to victory and your absence has been troubling.

As for the actually post I don't disagree with a whole lot the cap is hard to predict the raises and everything I'd probably change a few numbers but that's nitpicking.

It's going to be interesting what happens with our D, Kindl doesn't have many options left, but the Wings really like what Lilja can bring as a 5-6th defenseman.

#1950517 Off-Day: Here's what I want to see next season

Posted by Guest on 19 April 2010 - 10:01 AM

I know that a lot of you don't like off-season posts during the post-season...but it's an off-day...I have fun doing this...and plenty of other posters have fun talking about it too. If you don't like it, just move on.

First of all, change in (or alteration of) general philosophy - forget about this running 4 lines b.s. In the salary cap-nhl, if you want to have success, you throw out your best six scorers on your top two lines, and you fill the rest of the roster with grinders. So...I'm going to leave this alone until I chalk up the lines below.

Second of all, personnel changes -

Bring back:

#1) Lidstrom (7.5 mil) - He'll be back as our captain at a much lower price, probably a 1-2 year deal.
#2) Holmstrom (2.3 mil) - He'll be back at a slightly lower price, probably 1 year.
#3) Bertuzzi (1.5 mil) - I know he's easy to hate, but in all objective reality, he gives us everything on the ice that mule gives us...but to a lesser degree...and one that is fairly proportional to their difference in price.

#1) Abdelkader (0.9 mil) - no question about it, slight raise.
#2) Helm (0.6 mil) - ditto.
#3) Miller (0.5 mil) - hopefully no one makes him a big offer.
#4) Eaves (0.5 mil) - hopefully no one makes him a big offer.
#5) Meech (0.5 mil) - shouldn't be hard to keep, nice seventh defenseman that can play forward in a jam.

#1) Hudler (2.9 mil...I checked) - all signs point to yes. The cap-breaks we're getting from Lidstrom, to a lesser extent Homer, and some of these guys that we're losing below should give us enough space to fit him in.

Do not bring back:

#1) Williams (1.5 mil) - Doesn't fit into my plans.
#2) Lilja (1.3 mil) - No room for him with Kindl coming up.
#2) Maltby 0.9 mil) - Good time to step down.
#4) Lebda (0.7 mil) - No room for him with Kindl. And I'd rather have a cheaper and more versatile Meech as my seventh defenseman.



#1) Hudler-Datsyuk-Franzen - Datsyuk and Zetterberg are our two best all-around players. They're going to be centering the top two lines. I'm not putting them together at even strength. Hudler is the best secondary scorer that we're going to have, better than Flip. Him and Pav on the same line together will be nasty. They'll score a lot of goals. Mule is our best "physical presence guy." At even strength, he's on this top line.

#2) Filppula-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi - Hank in the middle, second best all-around player. Flip on his wing, second best secondary scorer. Bert up front, second best physical presence. Keep in mind that these can shift as players gel. Mule can be swapped for Bert. Flip can be swapped for Huds. I don't really care what the combinations are...so let's not waste time arguing about the combos. All I know is that those six guys are our top six guys.

#3) Abdelkader-Helm-Cleary - This is kind of physical third line that makes teams like pittsburgh so hard to beat, and that we lack. Helm's a great, energetic, high pressure, turnover-creating nuisance that can center this line. Abby brings a lot of the same things at a much larger size, and with more scoring potential. Cleary seems to have sort of lost his scoring touch. I've got no beef with him dedicating himself to again being a great, physical defensive standout...that adds a little scoring potential to this line as well.

#4) Holmstrom-Miller-Eaves - This fourth line's not gonna get much even strength time...but so what...no one else is really trying to do that anymore. It's far from a waste line though. Homer is our first team power play net specialist (along with Pav and Hank, TOGETHER...Huds-Flip-Mule is our second pp unit). It'll be really, really nice to keep him fresh for that role in the playoffs as well!!! And Miller-Eaves are our first line PP killers (probably Helm-Cleary or Abbs as our second pk unit).

13th - Draper - great locker room guy, not a great player. Perfect as the 13th though, as he can slide in for someone nicely at either wing or center. Still a face-off stud in a pinch as well.


Lidstrom-Rafalski - Not getting any better, but still one of the better first pairs in the league.

Kronwall-Stuart - Again, probably getting close to their peaks, but still one of the better second pairs in the league.

Kindl-Ericsson - Kindl's up next season, no arguing about it. He probably takes over for Williams on our second team PP as well. Ericsson took a bit of a step back this season...but I still think that he's going to be a solid life-r here. Kindl's offensive abilities might help him settle into his more promising role as a stay-at-home Lidstrom-esque defender as well.

7th - Meech - Not that good, not that bad, still young, versatile, cheap...etc.


Howard - He had a great regular season...through three games he's given up one (maybe two...one in each of the losses) bad goal...and that's probably less or as many bad goals than Luongo's given up. He's our man next season. No question about it.

Osgood - He's under contract for one more season. He's probably thinking about retirment (in which case we'd have to sign another veteran - I don't think we want to go with a Howard/Larsson combo just yet). But I hope he instead chooses to take pride in the important role of the backup veteran who helps groom his successor.

#1943161 Bench Williams Thread // Merged

Posted by Carman on 15 April 2010 - 02:15 AM

Funny thing is Abdelkader and Williams have the same amount of career playoff points. 3.

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Come on Babcock!

#1943114 4/14 Other Playoff Games

Posted by Carman on 15 April 2010 - 01:00 AM

How the hell am I a troll?

I just like the Penguins.

If I wanted to troll I'd start threads about how Osgood is great, Franzen sucks, or Holland is a s*** GM...

lolololol Crosby has as much defensive responsibility as Ovechkin. The difference? Ovechkin does it better-- +45 vs +15. Stop being jealous.

Ps. Who's that Malkin kid Crosby plays with on every single PP? Is he an ok player? Maybe he helps? Nah... :rolleyes:

Are you really using +/- for that arguement? Come on Drake..

Malkin doesn't play 5v5 with Crosby, Backstrom does. Hell Semin plays with Ovie more than Malkin does with Sid.

Check dobberhockey line production, i'm not going to do the homework for you.

#1938974 Early Penalty Watch For Game 1

Posted by Guest on 12 April 2010 - 07:11 PM

Ok everyone I believe Wednesday is going to be a day of BS calls and ill be surprised if the wings make it out of this series alive or if a huge conspiracy theory comes out of this. The NHL wants Phoenix to suceed thus trying to get them to go as far as they can.

#1939086 Stay classy Yotes fans.

Posted by SouthernWingsFan on 12 April 2010 - 08:29 PM

Meh, all teams in any sport, in any level, are going to have their a'hole fans. I wouldn't take what this fan had composed with any seriousness and I'd just point and laugh at him.

#1939190 Early Penalty Watch For Game 1

Posted by SouthernWingsFan on 12 April 2010 - 09:44 PM

Ok everyone I believe Wednesday is going to be a day of BS calls and ill be surprised if the wings make it out of this series alive or if a huge conspiracy theory comes out of this. The NHL wants Phoenix to suceed thus trying to get them to go as far as they can.

Lower the paranoid level, please.

The Red Wings have certainly gotten jobbed at times, but they've also benefited this year, especially later in the season.

The problem is not so much with officiating, but the rules of bogus calls like phantom interference or intent to blow the whistle on a goal. It is impossible not to be an idiot when something like that arises because the rules have so much gray area in them, it isn't black and white, no matter how good or bad of a ref you are.

The officiating can be questionable at times of course but these conspiracy theories are just downright absurd sometimes that come up on here.

#1937106 Evander Kane vs Matt Cooke

Posted by Carman on 11 April 2010 - 01:46 PM

Steroids do their thing pretty quickly.

Ask Ovechkin :ph34r:

#1935588 Alex Burrows doesn't like Detroit

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 09 April 2010 - 03:04 PM

Someone should stick these comments on Lilja's locker.