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Not good.
Defense is horrible compared to Red Wings standard. Way too much time is spent in our end, and Howard is not exactly playing great either. Barring a complete defensive turnaround, Wings have very little chance, if any, of winning the Cup.

Also, it does not help that Modano MUST be on the roster. He is not a very good player anymore and the younger guys at least provide more energy.

WAY too much for inconsistent and average goalie like Howard.

No way. Franzen couldn't hold Fedorov's jockstrap in the playoffs. Unlinke Franzen, Fedorov was actually a great two-way player.

Not claimed by Islanders? Why? He could help them.  

Good for Peter. I hope he can make it work.

Also, f**k all the haters. He never retired in the first place. You have no idea how he feels. Hockey is his passion and he loves the game and wants to play. Who are you to tell him when to retire? Go back to your caves.

Woohoo afternoon game! It's 8:00 PM over here in Finland when the game starts. Perfect time to watch hockey.

Yeah, same here. Go Wings!

Hopefully he gets his s*** together. He has been letting in soft goals on a regular basis.

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A Red Wing is captain for the all-star draft. I assume he'll trade his first round pick, then take a future hall-of-famer in the last round.

How can a guy like Milbury still be employed? Can he actually do anything noteworthy? All I see is that he spits BS all around on a regular basis.

Pierre is creepy at times. But on the other hand, he knows his stuff. He knows a lot about prospects. He has great connections. I honestly think he'd be one of the better GMs in the league.

******* mental illnesses

So, using that theory, lets not give any of the 9 goalies ahead of Osgood ANY credit. Especially those Broduer and Roy characters, just look at the teams they played for, hell, my Gramma could've won in Colorado or New Jersey... Pfft, 600 wins, Marty is average, put him on Florida his whole career and he doesn't have 200 wins...

strange, since Yzerman never won the Hart or Richard award,I guess he was never the best center in the game, ever.  Hell, without his teammates he doesn't have 1063 assists without his teammates.  Brett Hull was average until Adam Oates played with him, I guess Hull doesn't deserve his HOF induction or number retired.

I never said your grandma could have won in Colorado. Wins credited to goalies is a stupid idea. You might as well give the win to all the defensemen and forwards. I guess Lidstrom has at least 500 wins by now.

Look at the Cup run in 97. Osgood is a no.2 goalie.
Cup run in 98. Was Osgood good? The series against Phoenix and Dallas say otherwise. The Wings won DESPITE Osgood's poor performance. Your grandma would have had a chance as well.

He was great in 2008. Really good. Wings wouldn't have won without him.

If Osgood spent his career on the Islanders team, would there be any conversation about HHOF? Hasek has less wins because he was on a poor Buffalo team for most of his career. Is Osgood better? No way.

Yzerman had one year where he could be considered the best center in the game, and he won the Pearson (Lindsay now) trophy that year. Your Hull analogy doesn't make sense.

While I agree he's never been the best goalie in the game, he's above an average goalie.   An average goalie does not have a 16 year career in the NHL.

I meant that he is average goalie compared to the league. Overall, he has had an above average career for sure.

Roloson is three years older, and yet Osgood had won a Stanley Cup before Roloson had 75 NHL starts under his belt.
Yes, that was clearly all Osgood in 97 and 98.  

Osgood has had six 30-win seasons. Roloson has had none.
Not a team stat at all.

Only once in Osgood's professional career has he posted a losing record, that being last season's 7-9-4 record. Roloson has done so seven times in the NHL and once in the AHL.
Not a team stat at all.

Osgood was consistently considered a top goaltender throughout the 90s, has been named to play in the all-star game multiple times as well as having been named a member of the postseason all-star team. Roloson has made one appearance in the all-star game, selected because he and Fernandez were the only realistic options for the Wild at that point.
All-star game..what a cool award.
He was named only once to the all star team (and 2nd AST at that).
He has won zero major awards (Jennings is nothing special) and the only reason why people are discussing Osgood and HHOF is the 400 wins achievement. That alone does not get you to HHOF. And if you are not in HHOF you are not gonna have your number retired in Detroit.

He was the best in 1995-96. And through the 90s he was always among the best. Osgood is not an average goalie. Manny Legace, Manny Fernandez, and Dwayne Roloson are/were average goalies.

How is Osgood any better than Roloson?

Osgood is a compiler, lucky to play for the Wings - behind one of the best defenses in the league for most of his career. If he hadn't joined Wings, there would be no discussion about HHOF or retiring numbers. It would be a disgrace to retire his number.

As for his 3 Cups? The first one - Osgood was no.2 goalie; the second Cup - Wings won despite Osgood's piss poor performance; 3rd Cup - Osgood was great. One great playoff run does not make him HHOFer.

So being tenth in wins all-time is average now?

Are you kidding me? TEAMS win games. Awarding wins just to goalies is incredibly stupid.

Osgood was NEVER the best goalie in the game, never. He is an average goalie, nothing more, nothing less.

Well he was right anyway, how many good black players are there? Maybe one or two. Go Pang lol. Screw the "geez I offended someone" BS.