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#2471911 Look who's top in GR scoring

Posted by newfy on 10 January 2014 - 03:40 PM

I'll add some context since I watch a lot of Griffins.

 

Callahan is playing lower in the line up than guys like Ferraro or Sheahan. He usually plays with someone like Triston Grant. He doesnt get regular PP time (did get some when there were call ups) but does play the PK. Callahan is outscoring Sheahan and Ferraro while getting way less opportunity on the PP and with less skilled linemates. Hes essentially playing the exact role he would in the NHL on grand rapids, whereas Sheahan and Ferraro are playing more of a scorers role.

 

Callahan is arguably the most trusted winger down there defensively. Hes out at the end of games when the other team has the goalie out and everything. Overall I do like how Sheahan has played since his call up and he has looked great, but between Callahan and Ferraro I'm not sure who should really have the edge. Both are fast (Ferraro has elite speed) but Callahan adds more of that rugged play and seems to put the puck in more.

 

All three should be on the team next year. They all deserve a chance. Callahan looks like a better play than Tootoo down in GR. And if the wings want to be tougher you need to keep Callahan. Hes cheap, homegrown toughness that you dont need to overspend on in free agency for guys like Tootoo




#2471843 1/9 GDT: Red Wings 1 @ Sharks 4

Posted by dragonballgtz on 10 January 2014 - 05:58 AM

You guys are calling out Howard? Looking at the recap video on NHL, it looked like Howard gave the Wings a chance to get back in there. Sure the 2nd goal he would like to have back, but how about those PP saves, a 2 on 1 save, lack of defensive coverage in his own zone? Then you have Bert miss a wide open net, Tatar as well near the end. The 4th goal was one hell of a shot, not many goalies are going to stop a snipe that close and with so much time to shoot.




#2471484 Look who's top in GR scoring

Posted by Bannedforlife on 09 January 2014 - 02:03 PM

Not only do I log onto LGW at least once per day and have never heard Callahan referred to as Dirty Harry, but LGW isn't meant to cater exclusively to hardcore forum posters. Nicknames are supposed to make it easier to discuss the team, not to prove how funny and clever you are. Making up nicknames that no one else uses is obnoxious and unnecessary. Watch...

 

It looks like Yellow Mustard is going to miss some time after catching that elbow last night against the Sabres. Its really bad timing too, because our defense already thin with Big Poppa out with a concussion and Bandit serving his 5 game suspension. I would say this forces us to call up someone from GR, most likely Billy the Kid or The Player Formerly Known As Steve. We might be in trouble on the back end until we get some regulars back, since this leaves the Boogeyman as our #1 defenseman. And you know what that means!!!!

 

Boogeyman - Hot Topic

Heebie Jeebies - Dances with Wolves

My Little Pony - Agent Orange

~&~ (The Player Formerly Known As Steve)




#2470841 1/4 GDT : Red Wings 5 @ Stars 1

Posted by Rick on 05 January 2014 - 09:28 AM

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#2470840 1/4 GDT : Red Wings 5 @ Stars 1

Posted by e_prime on 05 January 2014 - 09:21 AM

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#2470245 It's time - to predict 2014 Team USA

Posted by wings87 on 02 January 2014 - 03:25 PM

Ryan reacts to some of the quotes of hockey USA: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=440211 going to cheer hard for him guy is a great goalscorer and never gets appreciated be it in Anaheim or now by hockey USA sucks, disgusting.


I've never been a Burke fan. Yeah he won a cup with the Ducks but he also put Anaheim in a bad cap situation and then hightailed it to Toronto where he made countless mistakes and now he moves to Calgary to run another franchise into the ground. I might be in the minority but I never understood the fuss over Burke's skills as a GM.

Props to Ryan for Calling Burke out on his BS. We at LGW have seen plenty of Ryan over the years and I'm sure most of us can agree that he doesn't lack intensity. Maybe there's some personal animosity between Burke and Ryan while they were in Anaheim.


#2468385 Blockbuster deal?

Posted by Z and D for the C on 29 December 2013 - 11:27 PM

Howard is amazing for most of his career, has a bad stretch of games, and now people want his head. Unbelievable.


#2465908 Why the Red Wings get injured

Posted by Echolalia on 18 December 2013 - 12:35 AM

Actually he took liberties BEFORE. Once Downey stepped in not only did it provide furhter momentum for the Red Wings, but it also sent a message to Colorado. What's so hard for you to understand that? It's high school deductive reasoning...

 

You should use some of that high school logic you seem to be so full of and reevaluate my post, as well as your own OP.  I don't care if Lapierre took liberties before, during, or after Downey's response, and based on your premise that an enforcer's presence prevents injuries, you shouldn't either.  You asked us all a question in the title of this thread, "Why the Red Wings get injured."  You immediately follow that up in the first sentence of your OP with "Because they have no legitimate enforcer."  Your argument can then be summed up as 'enforcers prevent injury'.  High school reasoning.  You also said in your OP that "If there were enforcers, teams would think twice before laying the hits on star players."  Again, that reinforces your assertion that the presence of an enforcer would prevent injuries to Red Wings.  Downey was dressed and actively used during the game when Lapierre hit and injured Lidstrom; ie Downey the enforcer was present.  Based on that example (one which you actually brought forth to the discussion), it is clear that your argument that an enforcer's presence prevents injury is effectively refuted.  Downey was present.  Lidstrom still got injured.

As for the fight providing momentum and sending a message to the Avs, again I invite you to reread your original post as well as mine.  We aren't discussing momentum-shifts or message sending.  I never mentioned it.  Your OP never mentioned it.  That is not the topic of this thread, and if you were interested in discussing that as the premise of your argument, you should have made that clear in your OP.  I expect better from someone who is so competent in high-school level logic to bring up irrelevant points to the subject as a response to my retort.  It's as Kip mentioned in the first page: you keep changing your tune.  Now, if you want to discuss whether the utilization of an enforcer shifts momentum or sends messages to the opposition, you're more than welcome to make a separate thread on those topics, assuming LGW can stomach yet another enforcer thread.  But whatever you do, don't bog this already shallow thread down with multiple topics of discussion.  Lets stick with injury prevention.




#2465393 Why the Red Wings get injured

Posted by Jedi on 16 December 2013 - 10:06 PM

So you go from my claim on hits per game to fighting majors. Cool. Enforcers dont necessarily have to fight they also put aggression towards opponents through hits. And it's a known fact in hockey (if you play, which i feel doubtful seeing your reactions to a basic aspect of hockey; aggression, aka what the sport is KNOWN for) fighting and hits can curve momentum. Hits can send messages to opponents. Hits make people think twice before opponents go after your star players. Hits are a non-verbal way of saying " you hit my guy, i'll hit you and embarrass you." Case and point 
 
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=pLX3299cVEg
 
Laperriere hit Lidstrom. Downey took revenge. Lappy was a mouse the rest of the series. Wings went on to continue dominating.


Ahem. Let us quote the book of "kickazz", chapter 7, post 140... 

 

Because they have no legitimate enforcer...

...If there were enforcers, teams would think twice before laying the hits on star players...


Yes, I can see how one might confuse "hits" with "fights" when you yourself said the lack of an enforcer was to blame for our injuries.

But to go back to the stats...

Matt Martin (LW, NYI, 6'3" 206lbs) far and away leads the NHL in hits, at 165. Yet the Islanders sit at 86 games lost to injury. If, by your argument, big hitters translate in fewer injuries, why are the Islanders right around the NHL average in games lost? Or Tampa Bay, at 123 games lost, when they have Radko Gudas' 112 hits? Or Toronto, at 97 games lost, when they have Cody Franson's 110 hits?
At best, the teams that have some of the league leaders in hits are among the NHL average in games lost.  It still appears that the numbers aren't backing you up.




#2465389 Why the Red Wings get injured

Posted by Crymson on 16 December 2013 - 09:49 PM



Case and point 

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=pLX3299cVEg

 

Laperriere hit Lidstrom. Downey took revenge. Lappy was a mouse the rest of the series. Wings went on to continue dominating. 

 

Not case and not point. That took place in a regular season game, and Laperriere tried to run Downey later on in the game. Downey did not play a single game of the playoff series between the two teams; Laperriere did, and his presence went unnoticed.

 

Your point has even less merit given that the game in question was the last of the season series between the two teams. Detroit won that one 4-0 also, by the way.




#2465349 Why the Red Wings get injured

Posted by kipwinger on 16 December 2013 - 07:29 PM

Because they have no legitimate enforcer. Simply said. Yes, the red wings have very skilled players who have speed. But when teams like Ottawa and Boston are out there out hitting your players 2:1 or 3:1 ratio night after night, (and I don't mean small checks, I mean big massive hits), you cant expect them to last long. Perhaps Ken Holland needs to FINALLY invest in some muscle? I cant think of any out there obviously, and Tootoo wasn't much of a success unfortunately.. but it makes you think. How much longer do the players need to get pushed around till someone gets a head or back injury. O wait.. Zetterberg just had a herniated disk....... Datsyuk got concussion symptoms, oh and so did Franzen... There's a reason the Detroit Red Wings are injury prone folks. It's cuz other teams run around and hit em. If there were enforcers, teams would think twice before laying the hits on star players.

 

That's my 2 cents on the situation. Please share!

 

You mean like how Orpik thought twice about hitting skilled winger Loui Eriksson because of all the big, bad, enforcers that Boston has?  Or perhaps how James Neal didn't even consider kneeing Marchand in the head during the same game for the same reason?  And certainly nobody would consider taking liberties with Phil Kessel with Orr and McLaren on the ice for Toronto. 

 

I completely agree with everything you just said.




#2466137 Blues Re-sign Steen 3 Years 17.4m

Posted by kipwinger on 19 December 2013 - 10:27 AM

If Ryane Clowe is worth 4.75 million per year, then Alex Steen is worth 100 Bazillion per year.  Just sayin'.




#2465921 Can Detroit turn things around?

Posted by Gusto on 18 December 2013 - 03:28 AM

The injuries have nothing to do with them losing. They were doing this even before this all took place. These Players even the ones in the AHL need to be NHL ready. They also need to play as a Team and work hard. This is Bulls*** I'm sorry people I won't accept this. They are getting paid Millions of Dollars to play a Game! If they can't play at the NHL Level than why the hell are they even on the Team let alone Drafted in the NHL Already? 

 

All tell you why because we've got to many teams in the NHL. Most of these players would even have made it in! In the old NHL. There needs to be no more excuse's of this team no more I'm sick of them losing. They are Millionaires most of them playing a Game! Where we the Middle Class citizen don't get enough money to pay Bills or stuff like that.

 

So we the Fan need to expect only perfection  only that from them this is a 6 Original Club they  need to Honour and Cherish the Team that plays there Salary. 

 

19 days ago you were saying these Red Wings were better than the 2002 team. Maybe don't ride the highs and lows so much when it's still December and there's lots of hockey to be played.




#2465898 12/17 GDT: Ducks 5 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by wings87 on 17 December 2013 - 11:07 PM

To all the Howard bashers out there take a good look at this game, it doesn't matter who the goalie is if the team defense sucks.




#2465481 Can Detroit turn things around?

Posted by dat's sick on 17 December 2013 - 12:05 PM

It seems to me that the Detroit Red Wings are not focused. We either get shut-out,don't put up a good effort, or take the lead and then when the 3rd starts Detroit says "nah don't feeling like winning, you guys take it."  So I have a very serious question. What NEEDS to change in order to stay playoff material? To end the bad 3rd periods? To actully be a threat?

 

 

P.S. Pretend you're the new coach of the Detroit Red Wings.

 

 

I think if we could only ice a lineup looking like this: 
 
Jurco-Datsyuk-Alfredsson
Miller-Andersson-Tatar
Cleary-Glendening-Eaves
Bertuzzi-Sheahan-Samuelsson
 
things would turn around. Very balanced lines, each line has a scorer (Alfie, Tatar, Eaves, Sammy) a great puck-carrying center and a playmaker. With this our 2nd PP unit would look something like: 
 
Cleary-Tatar-Eaves
Kindl-Sammy
 
and I can't imagine that not being an effective unit.