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#2532503 Babcock Interview on 105.1 this morning

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 18 July 2014 - 04:55 PM

 

That's legit, but nobody is remembering how Quenneville nearly did the exact same thing to us with those Blues teams in the late 90's that were significantly less talented than our Cup teams.  And he was coaching against Bowman. 

 

One of the reasons that I think Quenneville is a great coach?  Of the 15 times he's made the playoffs he's won the Cup twice and lost to the eventual Cup winner 7 times including three times to the Bowman Wings (widely considered some of the greatest teams EVER to play hockey) of the late 90's and early 2000's.  The best teams Babs has lost to?  Quenneville's Hawks a year ago. 

 

Before he hooked up with the Hawks though, he made it out of the 2nd round of the playoffs once in 10 years as a head coach.  Losing to the eventual cup winner in a first round series doesn't really count for much to me. 

 

Babcock took out the 2003 Red Wings in 4 games with a Ducks roster that wasn't exactly stacked with stars and got them to game 7 of the Finals.

in 2007 he took the Wings to the Conference finals, losing to a great team and eventual Cup winner in the Ducks . 

In 2008 he won the Cup

In 2009 he went through the Ducks, still a very good team, and beat Quenneville's Blackhawks (the next year's Cup winner), then took the Pens (who people here don't like to admit but were a great team) to 7 games.

In 2013 he took the Blackhawks to game 7 OT with a lineup that had no business hanging with the Hawks.

 

I think Quenneville is a good coach, but I still put Babcock a notch above him.  




#2531019 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 July 2014 - 12:29 PM

I wonder how Keith feels right now. As a UFA his salary could hit the stratosphere, but now he's stuck making literally half of his fellow leaders on the team for similar term, and is their second highest paid Dman. Cheers to Keith for being a team player. 

 

As for next year Chicago has 15 players signed (10F 3D 2G) and just a little over 3mil in cap room.

 

It's hard for me to feel sorry for Keith.  He's overrated as a defenseman and a dirty player.  

 

Don't get me wrong, I think he's a very good Dman, but 2 time norris winner??  If 5 years ago you would've told me Keith would win 2 Norris trophies and Weber wouldn't have any, I would've thought you were nuts.


Chicago will be taken apart next year.

 

that's what we said last time. 




#2531095 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 July 2014 - 03:46 PM

I'm assuming the bonus is tied to some minimum number of games played with the Wings. 

 

Still, I am shocked by this deal.  Even if it's a two-way deal, I wasn't expecting that kind of money.  I think when Maltby did it, it was something like $500k. 

 

I would rather Holland put that money towards retaining some of Kindl's salary in a trade.  




#2531090 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 July 2014 - 03:43 PM

As a moderator here, I'm just glad the Wings didn't announce the re-signing of Quincey and Cleary on the same day.  




#2531073 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by uk_redwing on 10 July 2014 - 03:36 PM

Who else burst out laughing when they heard? :lol:

 

All Ken Holland has done this offseason is sign players for Grand Rapids...at least that's what we hope he's doing...




#2530403 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by redwings15 on 07 July 2014 - 12:42 PM

Gotcha




#2528631 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by GoWings1905 on 01 July 2014 - 04:11 PM

If the Wings knew Niskanen wasn't coming here before free agency, then what the hell has Holland been doing otherwise?


#2528194 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 01 July 2014 - 01:38 PM

I'm pretty convinced Khan was wrong about Niskanen. 

 

 

So apparently I'm currently in the denial stage of grieving. 




#2528120 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by vladdy16 on 01 July 2014 - 01:20 PM

Calgary got Jonas Hiller, Dallas got Spezza, Detroit gets a rock.

Do you have a source to support your claim of Detroit actually acquiring said rock?




#2528067 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 01 July 2014 - 01:08 PM

Report: Holland found at Bell Tire looking confused ...repeatedly kicking tires. The report further states he will continue to kick tires at Bell Tire until his meeting with Dan Ceary at 6.


#2528047 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by gcom007 on 01 July 2014 - 12:58 PM

Who knows, but I don't think we're getting NIskanen. At this point, someone, Tampa or otherwise, is going to give him a huge offer, and it's next to impossible to imagine Holland matching let alone beating. And again, should we be upset about that specifically? I'm not so sure, because again, we're talking one big year on a great team. He hasn't proven that much, and that's a lot of money and years to throw at a guy who might not keep it up. The bigger concern is whether we let lower-priced targets go because we were chasing Niskanen. I don't like the way this day is shaping up right now at all. 




#2527998 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 01 July 2014 - 12:43 PM

Maybe we are saving Cap space to go after Lebron.


#2527732 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Dominator2005 on 01 July 2014 - 11:31 AM

Ehrhoff is a smart guy. Signed 1 year deal with the high scoring team which made Niskanen look like an All Star Def... Next season, Ehrhoff will score 55-60 pts and then he will sign a new longer deal with a team of his choice...




#2527645 Jason Spezza traded to Stars for 3 prospects, 2nd-rd pick

Posted by vladdy16 on 01 July 2014 - 10:59 AM

I'm a huge Holland supporter and I think he is still doing a great job and is STILL one of the best GMs in the league. But look at what Nill is doing in Dallas. It's crazy how quick he is turning that team around. I strongly believe they will be a serious contender within a few years. Part of me wished he took over as GM of the Wings and Holland took on another role. Again, I love Holland, so please don't turn this into another Holland bash fest. Nill just gets s*** done.

I agree and I have nothing but love for Jim Nill, but he also had a lot more money to work with and nowhere to go but up really.  I'm withholding judgment for the next couple of seasons.




#2527455 It's too bad about us having Weiss...

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 June 2014 - 10:42 PM

No, we're not in on Stastny... Did we really need another thread for this? It couldn't have been discussed in any of the other dozen UFA threads?...

No, because then it would get lost in the shuffle with the, "It's a shame we have Franzen, Vanek would be sweeeet" posts.