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#2545504 Wings great Gordie Howe resting after 'serious stroke'

Posted by roboturner on 29 October 2014 - 10:34 PM

I swear I'm not always as negative as I might come off around this place.

But I'm a realist, and I'm with Playmaker on this one.

 

I mean he is 86! I think anybody would be lucky live that long even without the wear and tear of a (extremely long) hockey career.

 

It's not like he's 50 and it's a huge shock to his family and they weren't ready for the end. They've know this was coming for a while and and they've all gotten to spend time with him.

 

I personally think it's extremely selfish to force someone to live in anguish for months on end just because the people around you are can't accept it and are desperately trying to delay the inevitable. Not to mention it puts the everybody in the position of 'waiting around for you to die' and that's some tough s*** to go to bed and wake up with every morning for possibly months on end. 

 

I'm sure most of his family is there now. I know it sucks, but nobody can live forever. Just make sure he's comfortable and if it's time, it's time.




#2540532 LGW Moderator Problems

Posted by roboturner on 13 October 2014 - 05:42 PM

 

Again, you're just choosing to insult the moderators without actually citing an example to discuss.  

Are you kidding? Did you miss what just happened that prompted the opening of this thread? Or do I need to link you back to it to "cite a reference"

 

EDIT: Also it's kinda hard to link back to something when it no longer exists because a mod already came through and scrubbed the record clean.




#2540235 10/11/14 GDT: Game 2 | Ducks 3 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by roboturner on 11 October 2014 - 09:05 PM

Consistently mediocre maybe.....


I didn't get to watch any of the preseason/camp stuff but from what I read it sounded like at least Babs was impressed with Mrazek. I hope they get him in some games soon.




#2533458 Paul McCartney and the Red Wings

Posted by roboturner on 01 August 2014 - 01:41 PM

He'll still be signing Cleary 'when he's 64'.




#2531722 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 11 July 2014 - 11:23 PM

Last time was almost totally on Cleary. He was offered a 3-year deal by Ken, turned it down....and then came crawling back cuz his heart was still in Detroit? If that was the case he would have signed the first deal. It was only when he found out that every other team thinks he is worthless that he came back cuz his 'heart' was here.

 

And this time around he won't give it up because of some 'handshake' deal that was made last time. He actually thinks he deserves special treatment after that god-awful season he had because of that 'handshake'.

 

As much as I blame Holland for signing him (and I do quite a bit, for he has total power to just walk away and not sign him), even he knows what a bad deal this is. Already he's trying to pawn it off on players/coach & good/bad loyalty quotes.

 

I can't be certain who initiated these talks but I'm sure his agent wasn't going to stop letting Holland know about that 'handshake'. And Holland to his greatest fault went for it.

 

I know monetary wise it'd be stupid to turn it down, but all this talk of his 'leadership' is bulls*** because the guy isn't a leader. He's a hound chasing a squirrel. One of your 'team leaders' shouldn't be dragging the team down, especially if that is literally the only supposed thing he brings to the table. If he was truly a team leader he would be doing what is best for the team, and whats best for the team is him off of it.




#2531675 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by roboturner on 11 July 2014 - 06:42 PM

Holland on looking for a D trade:

 

"I don't know that what's out there is any better than what we got in our system," Holland said. "Players (free agents) would be more experienced, but are they any better than (Ryan) Sproul or (Xavier) Ouellet? We got pretty good kids."

 

THEN LET THEM PLAY YOUf****** IMBECILE!!!




#2531664 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 11 July 2014 - 06:05 PM

I was just going to post that. What exactly does  Holland expect his fellow teammates to say about him? Of course they are gonna say they 'enjoy' having him around. Of course they are going to say they 'want' him back because if he does end up back in the locker room it would create unneeded friction.

 

It's up to Holland to read between the lines here and make the best decision for the team.

 

And I would bet some serious money (if I had any) that nobody he asked talked about wanting him back because of his on-ice play and performances or how he could help the team win games.

 

It was probably all lip service to his 'leadership' (not seeing much of that anymore, otherwise he would show the younger guys how to walk away when you know you're hurting the team), or his 'locker room presence' (Is there nobody else on the team who can inspire our guys? Our captain who battles more than anybody can't so that? Aflie, who was captain in Ottawa for how long? Pavel? Kronwall?).

 

All he's done by coming back is piss off our prospects, guys who could be the future of the team. I can't think of any other organization that pisses on it's prospects the way Detroit does. It'd be fine if you already had a stacked team and were competing for Cups. I'm sure they would understand in that situation. But this?....




#2531510 What is the plan with Mrazek?

Posted by roboturner on 11 July 2014 - 10:21 AM

The plan is to lose Mrazec through waivers after signing Martin Brodeur




#2531489 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 11 July 2014 - 08:36 AM

 

You're right, we do have an impressive pool of prospects.  Shame they can't get a game because they're blocked by the likes of Quincey and Cleary.

 

 

Don't worry. Sure we'll lose some of those prospects on waivers.

But we can get them back by trading a 1st rounder for them in a few years!!icon_e_agh.gif




#2531399 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 09:55 PM

 

 

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Does anybody else think he looks high as f*** in this?




#2531373 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 09:04 PM

Well, while it's mind boggling that he got re-signed at all, let alone for $1.5 million and a $1 million bonus, it doesn't really matter.  Since they're not going to use up the cap space, they could've given him $10 million and it wouldn't have affected anything but Mr. Ilitch's pocketbook.

 

The team has struggled for a few years, but I don't remember the Wings ever taking such a beating in the eyes of the media and general public. Utterly pointless signing.  And the fact that it's for so much money and it's one way doesn't make sense to me.  If this were pure loyalty, it would've been under a million and two way. 

 

Cleary is here to actually play in the NHL, guys.  Good lord.


 

It's not about the money. It's about making the team better. This signing makes the team worse. And not only worse this season but for seasons to come, because now everybody knows that the Wings don't care about winning.

 

Free agents aren't going to want to sign with the Wings if they know they can't win here and kids aren't going to want to get drafted by the Wings because they know they'll never get a shot to play and contribute here.




#2531355 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 08:33 PM

Is there a petition we can get going around and maybe get it before Chris Ilitch's eyes or something?

 

Ken Holland is just god awful. He's like that crazy guy who thinks the end of the world is going to be the best thing that could ever happen because he's going to get raptured, so he starts launching nukes to bring it about.....

....alright that might be overboard but still, you get the idea.

 

He seems to be willfully running the once great Wings into the ground and its infuriating.




#2531294 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 06:33 PM

I think it would lighten the mood in the locker room if they had a team/teammates that they could be proud of and have confidence in.

 

I don't understand telling Alfie (who was actually pretty good last year, and actually has great leadership) he has to wait and see if he's healthy enough to play, but Cleary, who can barely stand up (and even if he could is totally useless anyway) gets a pass.




#2531287 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 06:19 PM

How much of this signing has to do with the fact there is no vitality in that locker room. Waaaay too much seriousness, no Drapes, Malts, DMac, Shanny. The Room has to have characters, chemistry, and a certain amount of looseness to it.

Got to be a main reason for the signing.

I don't think bringing back the worst player on the team is going to lighten the mood in the locker room...




#2531196 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 04:47 PM

 

This same article also has Holland saying Cleary will have to beat out other players to be in the lineup. But lets ignore that because it isn;t in line with Holland bashing.

Get with it man, we all know by now that's not how it works with Holland and Babs. They say s*** like this and then do the opposite. Standard Procedure.