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#2508544 Maple Leafs Name Shanahan New Club President

Posted by roboturner on 10 April 2014 - 09:12 PM

Hi I'm Brendan Shanahan of the Toronto Maple Leafs. In the spring of every year, an incident occurs where the Maple Leafs blow their playoff spot with a magnificent collapse.


As the video shows in slow motion, the leafs continue to hand out lengthy contracts to players who to will certainly become a disappointment, and who will disappear when needed most.


Taking into account that the Leafs have a previous history, I have suspended the Leafs from the National Hockey League for 10 seasons.

#2508065 4/9 GDT - Red Wings 3 @ Pens 4 (SO). Wings clinch playoff spot!

Posted by roboturner on 09 April 2014 - 09:16 PM


Yet people wanted to anoint him the starter and drop Howard for a bag of broken sticks a month ago lol

Gus's struggles don't negate Howard's struggles

#2507517 Mike Babcock Appreciation Thread

Posted by roboturner on 08 April 2014 - 10:17 PM

Compare the teams that Scotty had to the teams that Babs had and this is mighty impressive.

Babs also did it in less time with less games played (lockout).


Sure he makes some questionable decisions at times, but seeing as how he's been so dominant I'm willing to (mostly) overlook them.


We've got a great coach who I'd like to see stay as long as he wants and be able to walk away on his own terms. The guys deserves that much at the very least.


Edit: you beat me to it

#2507422 4/8 GDT - Red Wings 4 at Sabres 2

Posted by roboturner on 08 April 2014 - 08:23 PM

Hindsight is 20/20. A player can have a rough patch where people are displeased and then redeem themselves later. I actually don't remember people hating on helm.

A Voice of Reason in the Madness

#2506851 How about some love for Howard!

Posted by roboturner on 06 April 2014 - 11:01 AM


Something that induces heart attacks doesn't ring of confidence... but if you want to say he had enough confidence in himself to try it, even knowing he was terrible at it, sure, I'll give you that.

Yeah that's exactly what I've been saying, I wasn't arguing that the fans have confidence in these goalies, but whether they themselves had confidence in what they were doing. Hasek clearly did. Howard clearly doesn't.

#2505847 Detroit says Weiss "Not Getting Better", likely done for year

Posted by roboturner on 04 April 2014 - 06:33 PM

I swear the number is cursed lol I think he should change his number in the off season.

If you think about it, it's just people trying to get away with wearing #9 in a Winged Wheel. The Hockey Gods have no patience for people exploiting loop holes

#2505666 How about some love for Howard!

Posted by roboturner on 03 April 2014 - 10:24 PM


Hasek was widely regarded as one of the worst puckhandling goalies in the league.  Just because he attempted it doesn't mean he was confident or able...

Well he sure as s*** isn't worse than Howard since Howard can't do it at all. The guy who knows 3 guitar chords is a better player than the guy who can't play guitar at all.

Your second sentence is just all wrong. It probably wasn't a smart move on his part, but yeah you definitely need confidence to attempt it, otherwise he would have stayed in the net; and it worked so he was able to pull it off.

#2505649 How about some love for Howard!

Posted by roboturner on 03 April 2014 - 09:38 PM


Malik is crazy.  Is Howard the new Franzen?  "Yeah he did good, BUT he could be better so he still sucks."  That logic makes no sense.


Sure, it would be nice if Howie was a good puck-handling tender, but he's not, and to expect him to become amazing at it is an unreasonable expectation, especially while making a claim he puts no effort into it.


I perfectly understand the argument, but there are still plenty of Howard haters.  It's nothing new in Detroit to be rough on goalies, so I guess it is to be expected.

It's not "He did well, but he still suxs!!!"

It's "He played well, but is still lacking in other areas and those can/have come back to bite us."

Why does that logic not make sense to you?


Just because he's pretty good at stopping the puck (he IS an NHL goalie after all, not too many make it that far), that doesn't mean every aspect of his game is above criticism.

There might be a couple of "Howard Haters" around ( BTW, anybody that uses the term "Haters" sounds like a snobby little preteen who can't handle criticism, Grow Up!). There are waaaay too many "Howard Apologists" around (the guy can do no wrong or making constant excuses for him), and not nearly enough "Howard Realists".


I don't really think it's unreasonable to have a professional NHL player to be able to handle a puck. I'm not expecting him to be amazing at it, just that he can make a play occasionally (i.e. start a breakout, play a puck to eliminate another D-zone face-off and/or catch the other team on a bad line change. stuff like that).

I mean have you ever seen an NBA player who couldn't dribble a basketball? Sure some are (way) better, some are not so great, but it's still a pretty basic component of the game (just like handling a puck should be to an NHLer).


You saw Happy Gilmore right? Guy had a great, long drive. BUT, he couldn't putt! And that hurt his overall scores, it wasn't until after he learned that skill that he was competitive. That's Howard right now. Gets to the green in 2 or 3...4 putts and ruins his score, thus falls in the standings. (sorry for using a fictitious movie to make my point :lol: )


I claim he doesn't practice it because he's been in the league 5 seasons and has not improved in the slightest since his rookie year. I don't know of too many things that you could work on for 5 years and not be able to show the slightest improvement (especially if it was a basic aspect of your profession).


I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but it sound like you are saying that it would be OK if prospects or rookies just quit trying to get better once they got to the NHL.

Would it be OK if Tatar quit working on his defensive game right now?

Would it be OK if Smith keeps making bonehead plays, or should he be expected to work on his game and improve?


I don't think it's unreasonable for somebody to continue to put in the effort to improve.



Howard is 5X the puckhandler that Hasek was...  it's not every goalie's strong suit.  Some average to below-average goalies are great puckhandlers.

No he isn't. Sure, Hasek gave me a heart attack sometimes when he would leave his net, but at least he had the confidence and ability to do it.

The Hasek/Gaborik flip was great (not puck handling, I know) because he had the confidence that he could do it. Howie probably would have cowered into his net and not reacted when Gaborik shot right past him.

#2505591 How about some love for Howard!

Posted by roboturner on 03 April 2014 - 06:49 PM

I'll give him props for last nights game! He played great and kept us in a game we had no business being in, and he deserves credit for that.


But I'm also going to post what I posted on The Malik Report


Anybody that uses the term “Howard Hater” doesn’t understand the argument.

People don’t rag on him because he can’t make big saves. He does (occasionally).


They (we) rag on him because he CAN play like this but for whatever reason wasn’t until very recently.


They rag on him because, despite being a professional hockey player, he can’t make a 10 foot pass to a teammate. His puck handling skills are horrendous, it leads to opposing scoring chances, and he puts absolutely no effort into improving.


They rag on him because he gets himself out of position so often an lets in weak goals.


Yeah he played well last night, but that doesn’t mean the criticism of him wasn’t warranted at the time and that he shouldn’t have to improve other aspects of his game that are lacking.

#2503007 3/29 GDT - Red Wings 4 at Maple Leafs 2

Posted by roboturner on 29 March 2014 - 07:21 PM

Amazing Goose

How Sweet The Sound

That save the wretched Wingsssss

#2502914 3/29 GDT - Red Wings 4 at Maple Leafs 2

Posted by roboturner on 29 March 2014 - 06:46 PM

DISCLAIMER: **I fully realize that this is not exactly what just happened**


BUT...That goal right off the face-off is exactly why I rag on Howard so much. His complete lack of confidence, especially in his puck playing ability (and his utter refusal to try and improve), leads to him CONSTANLY freezing playable pucks. This leads to more defensive zone face-offs and goals like the one you just saw.


(then throw in his rebound control, weak goals, poor positioning, ect...) But mostly this, because it could EASILY be remedied with some practice, coaching, and just a bit of effort on his part.

#2502364 3/27 GDT - Canadiens 5 vs. Red Wings 4

Posted by roboturner on 27 March 2014 - 08:36 PM

How odd to have Price break down like this.  Typical for Howard, but gosh odd for Price huh?

Point taken, but he does have (or probably will have after the game) 14 more wins than Howie

#2502328 3/27 GDT - Canadiens 5 vs. Red Wings 4

Posted by roboturner on 27 March 2014 - 08:29 PM

Don't worry guys...This time of the year was why we signed Cleary. Com'on Babs throw him over the boards and let him do his thing!!

#2501722 Injury Updates

Posted by roboturner on 27 March 2014 - 09:40 AM

Zetterberg's plan is to return in time for beginning of playoffs.  Video

I think even Zeus would be jealous of that Beard

#2501387 3/25 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by roboturner on 25 March 2014 - 08:55 PM

It isn't an either or proposition.  Datsyuk wasn't healthy enough to play with the Wings, he should have not have played for Team Putin.  I'll bet he's not giving back his paycheck for being hurt now, is he?  If Franzen had done the same thing, people would be having a fit.  What Datysuk did was a douchebag move.

Team Putin....unbelievable (I guess you no longer have any respect or pride for you're own country or ideals based who the current president is, hey? You just threw it all out the window and renounced your citizenship?)  And again with the paychecks, get over it dude.


Datsyuk is by far our best player and he deserves Respect.

Lidstrom played in the Olympics.

Yzerman played in the Olympics through pain (2002), missed the rest of the regular season, then came back and helped us win a cup.


I guess those guys douchbags too, hey? Yeah f*** Steve Yzerman, that guy has a long history of continuously put himself before the Wings! And worse, his attitude rubbed off on our current players!