Posted by roboturner
on 19 December 2014 - 10:16 PM
I never said I got joy from it. I come here to talk hockey and I made a prediction about the game. What makes you think I got joy from it? I just find it funny that if you're not some kind of Wings slappy and just gloat about how great the team is you get criticized for it.
Agreed. You point out things aren't great and people think you are actually hoping that it doesn't go well.
Posted by roboturner
on 17 December 2014 - 01:12 AM
Obviously it's because Howard is average.
Howard and this defense gave up 0 goals in 65 mins because they clearly suck.
Offense couldnt score one goal...
Bobrovski and their defense also gave up 0 goals in 65 min. They were in the same position the Wings were, yet they managed to win the game.
Did you see the stats before the shootout began. Howard 9 goals on 12 Shots. Bobrovski 2 goals on 14 shots.
I get that not scoring doesn't help win the game, but it doesn't have any effect on the goalie saving a shot at the opposite end (and of course a goalie not making saves at one end doesn't have any effect on the shooters at the other end).
Posted by roboturner
on 29 October 2014 - 10:34 PM
I swear I'm not always as negative as I might come off around this place.
But I'm a realist, and I'm with Playmaker on this one.
I mean he is 86! I think anybody would be lucky live that long even without the wear and tear of a (extremely long) hockey career.
It's not like he's 50 and it's a huge shock to his family and they weren't ready for the end. They've know this was coming for a while and and they've all gotten to spend time with him.
I personally think it's extremely selfish to force someone to live in anguish for months on end just because the people around you are can't accept it and are desperately trying to delay the inevitable. Not to mention it puts the everybody in the position of 'waiting around for you to die' and that's some tough s*** to go to bed and wake up with every morning for possibly months on end.
I'm sure most of his family is there now. I know it sucks, but nobody can live forever. Just make sure he's comfortable and if it's time, it's time.
Last time was almost totally on Cleary. He was offered a 3-year deal by Ken, turned it down....and then came crawling back cuz his heart was still in Detroit? If that was the case he would have signed the first deal. It was only when he found out that every other team thinks he is worthless that he came back cuz his 'heart' was here.
And this time around he won't give it up because of some 'handshake' deal that was made last time. He actually thinks he deserves special treatment after that god-awful season he had because of that 'handshake'.
As much as I blame Holland for signing him (and I do quite a bit, for he has total power to just walk away and not sign him), even he knows what a bad deal this is. Already he's trying to pawn it off on players/coach & good/bad loyalty quotes.
I can't be certain who initiated these talks but I'm sure his agent wasn't going to stop letting Holland know about that 'handshake'. And Holland to his greatest fault went for it.
I know monetary wise it'd be stupid to turn it down, but all this talk of his 'leadership' is bulls*** because the guy isn't a leader. He's a hound chasing a squirrel. One of your 'team leaders' shouldn't be dragging the team down, especially if that is literally the only supposed thing he brings to the table. If he was truly a team leader he would be doing what is best for the team, and whats best for the team is him off of it.
"I don't know that what's out there is any better than what we got in our system," Holland said. "Players (free agents) would be more experienced, but are they any better than (Ryan) Sproul or (Xavier) Ouellet? We got pretty good kids."
I was just going to post that. What exactly does Holland expect his fellow teammates to say about him? Of course they are gonna say they 'enjoy' having him around. Of course they are going to say they 'want' him back because if he does end up back in the locker room it would create unneeded friction.
It's up to Holland to read between the lines here and make the best decision for the team.
And I would bet some serious money (if I had any) that nobody he asked talked about wanting him back because of his on-ice play and performances or how he could help the team win games.
It was probably all lip service to his 'leadership' (not seeing much of that anymore, otherwise he would show the younger guys how to walk away when you know you're hurting the team), or his 'locker room presence' (Is there nobody else on the team who can inspire our guys? Our captain who battles more than anybody can't so that? Aflie, who was captain in Ottawa for how long? Pavel? Kronwall?).
All he's done by coming back is piss off our prospects, guys who could be the future of the team. I can't think of any other organization that pisses on it's prospects the way Detroit does. It'd be fine if you already had a stacked team and were competing for Cups. I'm sure they would understand in that situation. But this?....