It isn't an either or proposition. Datsyuk wasn't healthy enough to play with the Wings, he should have not have played for Team Putin. I'll bet he's not giving back his paycheck for being hurt now, is he? If Franzen had done the same thing, people would be having a fit. What Datysuk did was a douchebag move.
Team Putin....unbelievable (I guess you no longer have any respect or pride for you're own country or ideals based who the current president is, hey? You just threw it all out the window and renounced your citizenship?) And again with the paychecks, get over it dude.
Datsyuk is by far our best player and he deserves Respect.
Lidstrom played in the Olympics.
Yzerman played in the Olympics through pain (2002), missed the rest of the regular season, then came back and helped us win a cup.
I guess those guys douchbags too, hey? Yeah f*** Steve Yzerman, that guy has a long history of continuously put himself before the Wings! And worse, his attitude rubbed off on our current players!
But if he's too hurt to play for the Wings, he should have been too hurt to play for Russia. He couldn't play for weeks before Sochi, then played for two games to get himself in shape for the Olympics, played pretty damn well for Russia, comes back and is too hurt to play again? That's a crock of s*** if you ask me.
Again, he could have just left after the season. You sound like a little kid whose toy broke, so now you demand your parents break your siblings toy to make it "fair".
Answer this for me: Dats for 2 months now or Dats for 3 more seasons, but will miss a month now?
It's a travesty that our two best players didn't fully commit to the rest of the season and that we have the worst doctors/trainers in the NHL.
The refs will always be bad in sports, until you have robots replace them. Robots that make no mistakes. Refs sucking is just like Bertuzzi sucking or Smith sucking. Part of human error and occasional ineptitude.
Dude, they went to the Olympics. It's over.
Zetterberg would be out right now regardless
Datsyuk could have been done playing for the Wings for good after this year so he could play in his home country and spend more time with his family, but instead he "selfishly" (as you claim) signed on with us for another 3f****** years. Get over it!
Fair point, but it's not like he tried to blow him up or anything. That was incidental contact, as it looked like he was driving to the edge of the crease by the post to get the shot rather than trying to drive into Bryz. Huge difference, imho. Nothing like Probie's cannonball into a goalie when he was in Adirondack.
True, true. I wasn't trying to say he did it on purpose. It's just it sounds like people want preferential treatment for the Wings, and not consistency league-wide like you would think.
He was fantastic today. That isn't blind praise. Also, you do realize there are plenty of people here on the opposite end of the spectrum regarding Howard, right?
It is blind praise when there are constant excuses when things are bad for him, and when he's playing well he's the greatest goalie and somehow ALL the bad things he does are ignored.
I'm sure there are, but to get to that point you have to think "OK, if he wasn't playing for the Wings, would I think he's an above average goalie? Would I want him on my team?" Then you take a critical look at his game.
It seems most "Howard Supporters" are just that. Supporters. "I'm going to support Howard no matter what cuz he's on the Wings and I'm a fan of the Wings so I can't think bad thoughts about any aspect of his game or I won't be a true fan and anybody who doesn't support him 100% no matter shouldn't voice their concerns and opinions Y cant U jsut support him!!"
If you're referencing people saying "he sucks" right after goal without any other thoughts or analysis going into that, then yeah they are just as guilty as people saying "Average Save There, Hey Guys!!" after he makes one nice save and not putting any other thoughts or analysis into it.
It's the same thing. Selecting only the instances that confirm your theory and ignoring all the instances that don't isn't going to get you to an informed, rational position, whatever that position is.
If I selected only his greatest moments he would seem like a great, above average NHL goalie.
If I selected only his weakest moments he would seem like a s***ty, below average NHL goalie.
If I look at ALL his work, then and only then could you make a determination on how well he actually plays. That's all I'm advocating. I don't care where you fall once you've done that.
Don't be stupid. The call was incorrect but I can see why it was missed. Plenty of stuff worse than that in this game alone. That being said, the only reason it was called back was because of the score.
You said not to be stupid, but then you allow the refs to make calls based on the score and not on the merit of the penalty?
In the past 4 days I've read "Nyquist is terrible", "Tatar should be scratched" and "I don't like Tatar's play-style" What can be said about these boards? I try not to let 2-3 silly people get to me, but sometimes I fail and they do.
Haha me too. Whenever I say "someone here said...." it was usually only one or maybe a handful of people saying that. And its even less likely that it is the person that I'm responding to haha