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#2531373 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 09:04 PM

Well, while it's mind boggling that he got re-signed at all, let alone for $1.5 million and a $1 million bonus, it doesn't really matter.  Since they're not going to use up the cap space, they could've given him $10 million and it wouldn't have affected anything but Mr. Ilitch's pocketbook.


The team has struggled for a few years, but I don't remember the Wings ever taking such a beating in the eyes of the media and general public. Utterly pointless signing.  And the fact that it's for so much money and it's one way doesn't make sense to me.  If this were pure loyalty, it would've been under a million and two way. 


Cleary is here to actually play in the NHL, guys.  Good lord.


It's not about the money. It's about making the team better. This signing makes the team worse. And not only worse this season but for seasons to come, because now everybody knows that the Wings don't care about winning.


Free agents aren't going to want to sign with the Wings if they know they can't win here and kids aren't going to want to get drafted by the Wings because they know they'll never get a shot to play and contribute here.

#2531355 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 08:33 PM

Is there a petition we can get going around and maybe get it before Chris Ilitch's eyes or something?


Ken Holland is just god awful. He's like that crazy guy who thinks the end of the world is going to be the best thing that could ever happen because he's going to get raptured, so he starts launching nukes to bring it about.....

....alright that might be overboard but still, you get the idea.


He seems to be willfully running the once great Wings into the ground and its infuriating.

#2531294 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 06:33 PM

I think it would lighten the mood in the locker room if they had a team/teammates that they could be proud of and have confidence in.


I don't understand telling Alfie (who was actually pretty good last year, and actually has great leadership) he has to wait and see if he's healthy enough to play, but Cleary, who can barely stand up (and even if he could is totally useless anyway) gets a pass.

#2531287 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 06:19 PM

How much of this signing has to do with the fact there is no vitality in that locker room. Waaaay too much seriousness, no Drapes, Malts, DMac, Shanny. The Room has to have characters, chemistry, and a certain amount of looseness to it.

Got to be a main reason for the signing.

I don't think bringing back the worst player on the team is going to lighten the mood in the locker room...

#2531196 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 04:47 PM


This same article also has Holland saying Cleary will have to beat out other players to be in the lineup. But lets ignore that because it isn;t in line with Holland bashing.

Get with it man, we all know by now that's not how it works with Holland and Babs. They say s*** like this and then do the opposite. Standard Procedure.

#2531163 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 04:27 PM

Loyalty... How bout some loyalty to the fans, hey Ken?

#2531131 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 04:05 PM

Can we please get #fireHolland going on every Wings social media outlet possible?

#2531114 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by roboturner on 10 July 2014 - 03:54 PM

"I don't know why they're not coming here"


This is why, Ken. This is why.

#2517414 A plea to Holland.

Posted by roboturner on 26 April 2014 - 08:21 PM

I understand that the kids didn't do much this postseason, but neither did the likes of Cleary (this was supposed to be his time to shine), Sammy, Tootoo, Bert (did contribute a single screen though).

I do like the sound of having a select few capable vets, though I wouldn't get too carried away there either. Capable vets can quickly turn into useless vets of the aforementioned variety.

#2515683 ECQF - Game 4 - Bruins 3 at Red Wings 2 (F/OT)

Posted by roboturner on 24 April 2014 - 11:32 PM


Yes. Of course. No coach in their rightf****** mind would want to come here and play for Holland. Why would anyone want to do that? No one resects the Wings organization and their lack of repeated success. All the good coaches want to go to model franchises like Toronto and Vancouver. 

We're gonna turn into Toronto or Vancouver pretty soon if Holland doesn't cut thef****** bulls***


Was Holland supposed to decline the job because it was too good? I'll give you Bowman but Bryan Murray? c'mon . Sometimes the hardest jobs to do are when the expectations are as high as they are in Detroit.  We've won a cup with him as GM and never missed the playoffs.  If you don't like the guy that's fine but to strip the guy of any credit for anything he's done here is ignorant and well timed considering we just lost a game.

Pretending that he's not responsible for the poor personnel decisions made since that last cup is also pretty ignorant....

#2514229 ADQF | Game 3 | Boston 3 @ Detroit 0, BOS leads series 2-1

Posted by roboturner on 23 April 2014 - 12:00 AM

I don't really see a whole lot of 'blaming only Howard' for this loss like some are claiming. It's more holding him accountable for his mistakes.


If you're going to say that "other people shouldn't be blaming only one person (Howie), because the team as a whole is playing poorly and you're letting them off the hook."

Then you shouldn't turn around and say "the whole team isn't playing well, but I'm going to let Howard off the hook for his own contributions to this debacle and hold all of the skaters to a higher standard."


You're doing the exact same thing. There's plenty of blame to go around and EVERYBODY (skaters, goalie, coaches, GM) should be held responsible for their parts in this.

#2512932 Howard = Average

Posted by roboturner on 21 April 2014 - 04:58 PM


When you're an underdog you also can't get into a penalty war and go 2/4 on the kill and 0/4 on the PP.  Blame can't fall only on Jimmy.  I'm not trying to say he had a strong game, because he didn't, but nor did anyone else really (besides Datsyuk).

I wasn't blaming it only on Jimmy, like I said, we probably would have lost regardless (that's on the whole team), and that everybody has to be playing their best right now. But seeing as how the goalie, regardless of who it is, is the last line of defense, they can't be making the same stupid mistakes as everybody else. Especially if they are going to leave the net wide open and then make a boneheaded 'pass' that not even a magician like dats would have been able to receive. If a defenceman had made that atrocious pass, at least someone would have been in the net to make a play on it.

#2512913 Howard = Average

Posted by roboturner on 21 April 2014 - 03:32 PM

If you let a play like that kill you you don't deserve to win

That'd be fine if this was the Wings of '02 or '08/'09. This current Wings team can't overcome those kinds of stupid mistakes in a series where they are clearly over matched talent-wise. They need everybody playing their best hockey right now, including especially the goaltender.

Howard of Game 1 gives us an excellent chance to win this series.

Howard of Game 2 means we're not gonna win another game till October.

#2512545 ECQF Game 2 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Bruins 4 - Series tied 1-1

Posted by roboturner on 20 April 2014 - 04:08 PM

How do you block people it's getting ridiculous

Click you name in top right corner, click 'manage ignore pref'

#2508544 Maple Leafs Name Shanahan New Club President

Posted by roboturner on 10 April 2014 - 09:12 PM

Hi I'm Brendan Shanahan of the Toronto Maple Leafs. In the spring of every year, an incident occurs where the Maple Leafs blow their playoff spot with a magnificent collapse.


As the video shows in slow motion, the leafs continue to hand out lengthy contracts to players who to will certainly become a disappointment, and who will disappear when needed most.


Taking into account that the Leafs have a previous history, I have suspended the Leafs from the National Hockey League for 10 seasons.