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#2636628 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by nosyt612 on 12 November 2015 - 02:06 PM


Fair enough.


I still think Ericcson should be paid as a bottom pairing defenceman though :)


After looking at the average salaries for mid pairing dmen I'd say Quincey isn't a horrible price but only because his play has improved. At the time the contract was made it was bad


I don't mind Erriccson as much as it seems everyone else does, but I'm obviously in the minority. Agreed on Quincey, he's really turned around his play from when he first got back to the D.

#2636621 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by nosyt612 on 12 November 2015 - 01:40 PM


This is true, but these are #1/2 Dmen and are being compared with guys who are supposed to be 3,4.


To compare salaries of 3,4 dmen:


Cam Fowler 4M

Jack Johnson 4.2M

Johnny Oduya 3.7M

Dmitri Kulikov 4.5M

Ryan Mcdonagh 4.7M

Kevin Klein 3M

Jon Carlson 4M


I'd take these players over Quincey/Ericsson, with the exception maybe being Jack Johnson and Oduya


Although these salaries do prove that mid pairing Dmen make 4-5M so if Quincey is a mid pairing guy he isn't overpaid. I'll agree there


Agreed on not taking those two, and I'd maybe include Klein. But the rest of the contracts we're all signed when the guys were young, and not the talents they currently are. Fowler signed his when he was 20, Carlson when he was 22, and McDonagh 23. Also these were their first chance at some money, while their teams have more bargaining power. You're not comparing apples to apples, the going price of mid level free agent defensemen these days is in the mid 4s to 5s. in order to get the contracts you're comparing them to we need to develop some of our own young dmen.

#2636610 Abby Signs 7-year, 29.75 mil Extension

Posted by nosyt612 on 12 November 2015 - 01:16 PM


He shouldn't be a top 4 dman...that money could have went elsewhere to a legit top 4. I don't understand how its ok to pay him that much just because we were forced to give him top minutes. He plays top pairing minutes even though he plays like a 6th dman


Quincey is overpaid, Kindl is here next season as well. Even Green is overpaid. Abby's contract will be bad in 3-4 years.


#1,2 defenceman who make roughly the same as Quincey and Green:

Roman Josi 4M

OEL 5.5M

Keith 5.5M

Adam Larsson 4M

Yandle 3M


You're kinda cherry picking contracts, without providing the context in which they were signed. Yandle actually makes over 5 million, with Phoenix retaining salary to produce that cap number. Keith signed one of those crazy lifetime deals like Zetterberg and Hossa which keeps his cap hit down, otherwise he'd be one of the top salary guys in the league. Larsson is having a breakout year and finally looking like the top prospect he was, but before this year he hadn't been great. Josi signed his contract 3 years ago when he was 22 and just breaking out. OEL also was 21 when he signed his contract, and will be in for a payday on his next contract.

#2576758 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by nosyt612 on 01 March 2015 - 07:47 PM

I like this trade, always been a Cole fan. Has great speed, and is gonna have 20 goals by the end of the year. The wings got even more depth scoring, by the end of the year depending on Zetterberg's health we could have 5 20 goal scorers.

#2556906 Datsyuk vs Nyquist

Posted by nosyt612 on 15 December 2014 - 02:52 PM

Not sure if this was already posted somewhere or if it deserves it's own thread but I got a kick out of this and thought others might.




So who scored it better? (Both on Luongo 11 years apart)

#2541641 Monthly schedule wallpapers?

Posted by nosyt612 on 16 October 2014 - 11:18 PM

Whatever you make, I will accommodate

Same here.  I think Matts idea for making the highest res in both 16:9 and 16:10 and then people can scale down for lower res versions is the best.  Saves Matt some work.

#2536911 Did the Wings change the font on their jerseys?

Posted by nosyt612 on 22 September 2014 - 09:00 PM

This thread always makes me happy.  Means the season is just around the corner.

#2530505 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by nosyt612 on 07 July 2014 - 09:26 PM

This is a link to the puck daddy article for the 2012 nhlpa player poll, unfortunately it does not appear to be on the cbc's website any longer.  




Detroit ranks second as the team players would most like to play for and if my memory is correct Babs was in the top 3 for coaches that players wanted to play for.  Everyone is overreacting to us not getting every free agent we want.  As marcaractac laid out there's often good reasons people sign elsewhere. 


Edit:  Apparently I don't know how to work the internet sometimes, here's a link to the player poll (Babcock is 4th btw)



#2530424 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by nosyt612 on 07 July 2014 - 01:49 PM

Good point about Babcock...until he is gone, this team is stuck in a rut.  Legwand waived his NTC because he wanted to play here, but after what Babcock did to him, he bolted.  Babcock is the issue why no good UFA wants to come here...and its no secret why Canada is going in a different direction for their Olympic team next time.

The back to back Gold medals is a big underachievement. 

#2502029 3/27 GDT - Canadiens 5 vs. Red Wings 4

Posted by nosyt612 on 27 March 2014 - 07:12 PM

Why is bertuzzi playing?  Goes offside to yell at a player.

#2487756 Why did Franzen get 10 min game misconduct?

Posted by nosyt612 on 28 February 2014 - 09:52 AM

I think it's just one of those game managing calls.  The game was over and they kept going after Franzen so in the best interest of everyone they took him out of the game.  I'm sure someone put this in the GDT but here's an awesome quote from Franzen about Neal after the game: 


Franzen had "no clue" why Neil went after him: "He usually steps up when the game is over, tries to be the hero, put his cape on fly around"

#2481509 Miller vs. Eaves

Posted by nosyt612 on 05 February 2014 - 04:11 PM

I've never been that impressed with Eaves.  I like how consistent Miller is; he is a great pk'er and can be really effective on the boards keeping the puck in the other teams end when the fourth line is out there.

#2480351 2/2 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Capitals 6 (OT)

Posted by nosyt612 on 02 February 2014 - 03:29 PM

On a positive note I have Gustav, Zets and Carlsson on my keeper team.  Big night for my team the Datsyukian Dekes.

#2480340 What's wrong with Pasha? (Mod warning post #57)

Posted by nosyt612 on 02 February 2014 - 03:26 PM

I can't be mad at him if he plays.  I loved when Yzerman did it in in 02 as a Canadian when he probably shouldn't have considering his knee problems.  I'm not gonna sit here and be hypocrite about it, and I don't think some people realize how this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for Dats.

#2476596 Whom to blame for this goal? A referee or the goalie?

Posted by nosyt612 on 24 January 2014 - 06:36 PM

That's on the goalie, the refs only check to see if the goalies are ready to go at the start of periods, otherwise you gotta be ready to go like everyone else unless you've talked to ref about fixing something.