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#2577072 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 01 March 2015 - 11:25 PM

 
How old are you? May I ask? I turn 29 this month and I've followed the Wings religiously my entire life from age 8. For some reason i actually retain most of the generally useless history, info, players, trades, and dialogue I've heard along the way. I've followed the Wings for the entirety of Holland's tenure as GM and I have a particular addiction to information I've come across about NHL front offices. I like to think, as a fan, I'm about as informed as I can be enough to make the claims I do.
 
Holland has done a lot of things right in his time with the Wings, but he also had an All-Star cast of Front Office support along the way...not limited to Dellevano, Scotty Bowman (who I believe brought way more than people even thought...and they thought he brought a lot), Nill, Mark Howe, and several others. But since those people have started moving on, his ability to make good trades has nose dived. If Babcock creates good coaches, I believe Holland was created by other good front office people. HE does not seem to be a great stand alone GM. The two things that he is most credited for are also other peoples jobs (cap management and scouting). 
 
This is far more than vibes bro, but thanks for playing.

Ha. Here's the thing man.
I'm not playing, and even if I were, the sh** you're talking about isn't something you win, your bravado, cockiness, and knowledge of the red wings is all well and good, but you're basing everything you're saying off speculation.

There's no proving your point, and even if and when these prospects, ken Holland, and Jim nill all retire there will be no set way to determine who won this, because hockey IS a game, and their will always be ambiguity about things.
If the prospects make it in one place, theirs no guarantees they would've made it in the other.
And for all this Jim nill ken Holland who's better, who's worthless bs is obnoxious.
The fact that you lay it out So cut and dry, in such matter of fact way with your attitude doesn't make me want to discuss stuff with you, it makes me devalue anything you say.
And anyone who talks about it as such, is not old enough to have an adult conversation on the matter, regardless of age.

The more you know, the less you know.
Now please.
Stop trying to argue with me over something so little.
I don't think we gave up that much.
You do.
I get it.
You're not changing my opinion, no matter how much you tell me you know, and I'm not changing yours. And that's fine.


#2528668 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 July 2014 - 04:22 PM

 

As I said. We're the new Islanders. 

 

Except they have a young superstar and lots of enforcers. 

 

We have no reason for fans to attend games.  A boring team full of small players who don't fight and finish middle of the pack.  




#2528099 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 July 2014 - 01:15 PM

..... :lol: Kahn just tweeted the Niskanen informed Wings he is headed elsewhere! Ken Holland has destroyed Detroit as a destination...none of you guys can defend this clown anymore. He may have tried to get these guys, but he made Detroit so unattractive, that nobody wants to come here.  This guy needs to be fired... I am losing hope for this franchise as long as Holland is here. 

 

Look for the same roster sans Bertuzzi come October.




#2517962 NHL lacks class.

Posted by Wings_Dynasty on 28 April 2014 - 11:08 AM

Classy doesn't win Cups. Name a team that won on "class" in the post-Gretzky era. None. Not one. All had an element of grit/toughness that could be quantified by a single player/line that played every game. The Wings didn't have that this season and haven't had that since Dallas Drake. 

 

The 1997 and 1998 Wings were both very tough and gritty teams. They could go toe to toe physically with any team in the league every game. That was an overall team toughness that hasn't been seen since on the Wings. It disappeared with the losses of Lapointe, Vladdy, Ward, and Kocur. These guys played minutes every game, and 2 of them were more than just big bodies and fists. In 2002 the Wings won the Cup with pure skill, but there was still a Grind Line. A line that could go out when you were down one and crash and bang and piss the other team off. That didn't exist this season. And hasn't since Downey was dropped. 

 

The 2008 Wings were not supposed to win the Cup. They were not as skilled as the Pens offensively and didn't match up physically. The Wings overall grit was better as their more physical players could actually contribute more than PIT's grinders. Plus, Dats and Z were physical and kept Crosby and Malkin in check every shift. Pavel and Z were both hurt this year and were not physical at all vs. BOS. That's bad news when they are supposed to be the shut down line. Kronwall can't be physical either, if he goes out of his way to level a guy it isn't Lidstrom picking up the slack, it's Brendan Smith. 

 

Grit, size, goaltending, and balanced lines win Cups in this era. Need at least 3 of those to make it to the Finals. Wings had half of one. Boston has 4. 




#2517530 NHL lacks class.

Posted by Hairy Lime on 27 April 2014 - 05:49 AM

"Class" is a big reason Detroit was eliminated without so much as a whimper. 




#2512869 ECQF Game 2 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Bruins 4 - Series tied 1-1

Posted by rrasco on 21 April 2014 - 11:32 AM

On the Smith/Chara thing.  People keep saying it would have been dumb to fight Chara, which it would have been, BUT....I've done plenty of dumb things in my life to prove a point.  I'm about half Smith's size but I would have fought Chara to show them we were not backing down.  It's a statement.  Chara might be big, but that doesn't make him great at fighting.  Plenty of big guys have been dropped by smaller guys.

 

If Chara was so confident he would have dropped his stick a lot sooner and left it there for more than half a second.




#2465420 Wings muscle?

Posted by number9 on 17 December 2013 - 01:47 AM

I dont think we lack muscle, I think we lack heart/fire. After hitting Dats or Abby like that a guy like McCarty would have gone bezerk. Not saying that puts points on the board but I do think it really brings the team together and says hey lets beat these MOTHER *******




#2429011 Holland on SiriusXM w/ audio link

Posted by esteef on 09 July 2013 - 01:25 PM

 

Just like they were able to "manhandle" the Blackhawks?

 

No like they "manhandled" the Pens.  Understand?

 

esteef




#2423524 17yr old hockey player charged for on-ice assault.

Posted by IILeiBlazeII on 30 June 2013 - 09:24 AM

 

I think the charge was absolutely warranted and I don't think the league gave him even close to a sufficient punishment. That the Woodstock player was suspended at all is a joke, but I wouldn't be upset if the Brantford player was given a permanent ban from minor hockey.

 

There is no room in the game for that kind of cowardly garbage.

 

 

Please. The kid gave the goalie the snowshower of the century and he got his butt handed to him by a guy who wanted to drop the gloves. I'd take that kid that pounded him every day of the week instead of a chicken**** who wants to snow your goalie when your team is ALREADY WINNING. If this kid got pounded outside of a sports event, sure, levy the charges, but if someone in football got squarely tackled, people would be out of their seats... and if you just ran up and tackled a guy on the street, you'd get arrested. its the same thing here. The only cheap shot was the smart*** who got pummeled when he snowed the goalie... if anything, his team should have been down a man after that.




#2423526 First Murph, now this!

Posted by Travis on 30 June 2013 - 09:30 AM

Good riddance. I wish they'd get rid of the whole Fox Sports Girls promotion all together.


#2387382 Which things from the past (not just Wings related) do you miss most?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 21 April 2013 - 11:53 AM

Having 6 or 7 players put up 300 PIM in a season

Goalies who don't play the butterfly style

Gary Thorne and Bill Clement

No shootouts

Steve Yzerman




#2386336 The Race for Eight: Blue Jackets, Stars, Wings

Posted by Dabura on 18 April 2013 - 07:15 AM

Blue Jackets and Stars deserve it more. They're playing like they give a damn.

 

So glad Holland stood pat. Jackass.

 

We may not be a player or two away from winning the Cup, but we are a player or two from making the playoffs.




#2382131 Anyone else liking the pre 2005 more?

Posted by F.Michael on 07 April 2013 - 09:06 PM

Look at my avatar...Stevie & Shanny...Scoring goals, and punching faces...A wonderful combo of skill/grit/toughness...

 

I've said it 1,000 times before...I'll take my beloved Detroit Red Wings circa 97/98 over 2008 anytime.

 

 

EDIT - just think if we had our 97/98 club today, or if we had HDTV back then...Would've made Claude Lemieux's ass kicking so much better!




#2382121 Anyone else liking the pre 2005 more?

Posted by MabusIncarnate on 07 April 2013 - 07:36 PM

I hate the shootout personally, I think it was brought in as a gimmick to attract more fans but isn't a proper way to decide the outcome of the game. If they ever introduce it to the playoffs and discontinue sudden death overtime it may be enough to turn me away completely. I didn't mind ties as much as I mind a team being able to gain an extra point for winning a mini all-star event at the end of the game. 

 

I also miss the fierce rivalries, we may never see anything like Colorado/Detroit in the 90's ever again. I hate the fact that they are in a continuous battle to push fighting out of the sport, and yes as much as I dislike hits to the head and concussions, I think a lot of players are afraid to lay out heavy hits anymore which takes away from the physical aspect of the game. 

 

And my god do I miss Yzerman and the days of watching him play. I try not to live in the past but i'm not sure we will see another generation of hockey like it used to be. 




#2335781 13 pro teams running out of fans

Posted by vladdy16 on 10 December 2012 - 01:05 PM

I keep posting on forums, don't be a dumbass and boycott hockey if it does return this season. The sport is already damaged from all of this, the day hockey returns and Center Ice becomes available i'll buy it as I normally do.

Let's face facts, yes this sucks, yes i'm mad, yes many fans are lost, but I still have a love affair with the sport. The word Hockey was in my wedding vows (seriously) and my better half understands that I can't live without it and it's so much more to me than just a sport.

We'll get through this, and hopefully there's not too much of a decline in fan following, although i'm pessimistic about that. I just want hockey. Now.

Santa if you are reading this, making this wish comes true makes up for the lack of a slip and slide in 1989. Still bitter.

So anyone who doesn't feel the same way you do is a dumbass? You may not like the fact that MANY fans are going to boycott in response to the lockout, but they are entitled to their opinion just as you are entitled to yours. People will do what they will, and name calling isn't going to change that. If you can't see the reasons and potential benefits associated with boycotting, far be it from me to try to explain it to you.

I'm shocked that only 2 hockey teams cracked the top 13. I didn't realize Dallas was having attendance problems to that extent either.