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#2588709 Erik cole - what the hell's going on with him ?

Posted by DickieDunn on 03 April 2015 - 11:37 AM

I'm confused, is 6 points in 11 games bad?  Did you guys think we were getting Max Pacioretty?  We got a 40 point winger, who came to Detroit and played...ready for this...EXACTLY like a 40 point winger. 


Or were you guys suggesting that Holland should have known Cole would get hurt in advance, and thus not made the trade?


This is Red Wing land, where everyone is Captain Hindsight, with his faithful companions Woulda, Shoulda, and Coulda and Holland is a moron for not knowing a player would get hurt.



#2583712 Losing Streak affecting Babcock's Decision?

Posted by kipwinger on 21 March 2015 - 03:41 PM

Do Blashill's teams score at 5on 5? If so, adios Babs.

#2583681 Losing Streak affecting Babcock's Decision?

Posted by darkmanx on 21 March 2015 - 11:32 AM

I think Babcock can see through a streak.  More importantly he can see exactly where the team is, even when they were performing well.  I think he has already decided to go & I think he will end up coaching the Sharks.  They are closer, SJ is a beautiful place to live.  I don't think he will want to wait the three years to be competitive in a meaningful way & why should he have faith that the right decisions will be made within 3 years.  We have a few really interesting kids but we are going to loose a couple "special" players soon.  Kronner is exhausted and while Danny will be a solid guy they have nothing else long term on the back end, nothing. 


The Sharks are closer to what exactly? They are not even in a playoff spot and have just as many locker room issues as the Leafs.

#2578865 3/4 GDT : Rangers 1 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by GoalieManPat on 04 March 2015 - 10:45 PM

When Franzen comes back, this team will be scary.  


The team right now is quick and hard working. The complete opposite of Franzens game at this stage in his career.

#2577744 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by hockeybrianboy on 02 March 2015 - 04:47 PM

I like the two moves they got considerably better for this years playoff run and all they really traded was things that they already have too many of; non-NHL ready prospects (not top 5 picks that will get you guys like Jack Eickel ready to hit the NHL right away) that are still a couple of years away from making the NHL roster/draft picks that probably won't net NHL ready players so that would be the same thing.

Detroit didn't give away any prospects that are already showing NHL potential (Nyquist, Tatar) OR their elite prospects Larkin, Mantha etc. The ones they did probably weren't going to see the NHL ice for years and at best would've been 4th liners probably. Detroit was headed towards having so many prospects they eventually couldn't have roster spots/salary cap for all of them so it makes sense to trade them for short term gains rather than risk losing them down the road (still would've been nice if Detroit had managed to pool a bunch of their bottom prospects, like the two they gave for Cole and a couple high picks for a top 4 D man but realistically the team would've still run into salary issues I think either next year or year after a bunch of guys need to be resigned).


True they didn't get any long term fixes but those are just too expensive in the current free agent market. I still wouldn't mind seeing if they could package a guy like Jurco or Andersson if they could get a team to buy high on one of their young players that isn't developing as fast as Nyquist and Tatar. Or trade one of their goalies (Gus if they don't plan on bringing him back next year or Howard)

#2577726 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by Alan O'Bricke on 02 March 2015 - 04:17 PM

I guess I'm saying trust me on Zidlicky, you'll like him. You'll note little smart things he does. He settles plays in his own end well.  I've been watching his game over the last couple months and he does the right things at the right time.

This is correct and a great point. A lot of these people who want superstar player X because he scores this many goals and this many assists, that's not all that goes into a GM's decision. They don't make trades just by looking at stats on nhl.com

If Detroit got Mike Green in the offseaon, great! Babcock would have a full season to teach him the required defensive responsibilities of the game, the system and the team. One thing to think about, besides his offense, Green's hockey IQ might bot be that high. He might not learn the defensive side of detroit's system before the playoffs. Shooting and scoring come naturally to Green, where defense doesn't. Zidlicky might put up some numbers, but he will for sure be in the right place at the right time defensively, and when you only have 20 games to settle in, the defensive responsibility is a lot more important to have. I hope that made some sense.

#2577617 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by LeftWinger on 02 March 2015 - 02:01 PM

Ya, all of Pulk, March and Jurco will all be "sent to GR" on paper, in order to qualify them for the AHL playoffs.  They will be "recalled" after 3PM when the roster limits are no longer set at 23, as long as they fit under the cap.


I cannot say how happy I am right now, these are two types of trades that add the right combo of what a team may need to get them over the top.  All these teams "loading up" have a s*** ton more to lose if they don't win a Cup, and guess what? Last I heard only ONE team can still win the Cup, so there are 4-5 teams that loaded up this week, that are going to kicking themselves in the ass...Chicago better win this year, becuase if they don't, they are facing the same situation as 2010, they will need to dump salary to get under the cap. 


What Holland did the last 24 hours just proves that he is still one of the best. I may be biased, but if you are couting what was sent in retrurn today, Detroit cam out near the top of the "winner" chart.  I am very critical of Holland (to say the least) but today it just proves how much I should be less critical of him.  Look at the last few years of drafting and todays deadline.  Sure he paid too much for Legwand last year, but he HAD to, there was almost no way of making the playoffs with Andy as your #1 center. He tried for the Olsen twins, he tried for the big names last July, he stood his ground last year and this year when everyone wanted Mantha (and now Larkin.)  This may not be a Cup winning day for us, but it was definitely a playoff push move.  These guys bring experience that could push us further into the playoffs we have been since 2009.


Cheers to Ken Holland! Welcome to Hockeytown Erik and Marek!

#2577575 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by Carman on 02 March 2015 - 01:38 PM

Yep, we've got our two 35+ year olds. We're good.

Like that matters. We are a young team right now. 


07-08 We had 2 40+ year olds and 7 other 35+ year olds and won the cup.

Right now our team has 5 35+ year olds. With the Cole, Zidlicky addition.


What are you going to be negative about next so I can refute that too?

#2577527 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by puckbags on 02 March 2015 - 01:13 PM

Pick becomes a 2nd if we reach the finals. 


I don't understand this year's deadline strategy.  Not at all.  I don't hate it, but I don't get it. 


What is there to get? We picked up 2 legit veteran players and gave up prospects who are clearly not even close to playing in the NHL. We gave up a couple of picks which we can afford to do considering our prospect pool is pretty damn deep.  It's all about what you can afford to give up and what you need.  We needed another right handed d man and got one. 

#2535027 Las Vegas rumored to get an expansion team

Posted by wings87 on 27 August 2014 - 01:10 PM

So two years the league was in such bad shape that it was shutdown with the lockout, but now let's add 4 teams? The ineptitude is mind-boggling, either Bettman was dropped on his head as I child or someone should drop him on it now. 

#2540297 Coach's video challenge

Posted by WingsallTheway on 12 October 2014 - 10:11 AM

Sorry can't edit my post for some reason but I would also say that they could only use the challenge on goals the whole reviewin the play for a penalty just seems unnessary to me


To me, reviewing penalties can drastically change the outcome of a game. See; Oct 11,2014. 


I also remember another game, not even sure if it was the wings; (pretty sure it was) but crosby took a high stick from one of his own teammates and was awarded a 4 minute powerplay for high sticking. It could also be used to review dives and see if there was actual contact with the stick between legs for trips and stuff. The game is played faster then any other sport, theres nothing wrong with slowing it down for a second to correct a mistake.

#2534260 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by Vladinator16 on 14 August 2014 - 02:19 PM

I don't know if the tires can take another four years of being kicked. 

#2534220 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by number9 on 14 August 2014 - 09:42 AM

Best signing yet. Hollands offseason acquisition is himself. His deadline acquisition will be Babs.

#2532559 'District Detroit': Red Wings' New Arena Details Released

Posted by Dabura on 19 July 2014 - 02:09 PM

It'll be called The Octopus's Garden and shaped like Ringo's head.

#2528263 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Dabura on 01 July 2014 - 01:59 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the Stars and Bolts are going to be terrifyingly good in a few years. I'm not just saying that to say it. Nill and Yzerman mean business.