I like the two moves they got considerably better for this years playoff run and all they really traded was things that they already have too many of; non-NHL ready prospects (not top 5 picks that will get you guys like Jack Eickel ready to hit the NHL right away) that are still a couple of years away from making the NHL roster/draft picks that probably won't net NHL ready players so that would be the same thing.
Detroit didn't give away any prospects that are already showing NHL potential (Nyquist, Tatar) OR their elite prospects Larkin, Mantha etc. The ones they did probably weren't going to see the NHL ice for years and at best would've been 4th liners probably. Detroit was headed towards having so many prospects they eventually couldn't have roster spots/salary cap for all of them so it makes sense to trade them for short term gains rather than risk losing them down the road (still would've been nice if Detroit had managed to pool a bunch of their bottom prospects, like the two they gave for Cole and a couple high picks for a top 4 D man but realistically the team would've still run into salary issues I think either next year or year after a bunch of guys need to be resigned).
True they didn't get any long term fixes but those are just too expensive in the current free agent market. I still wouldn't mind seeing if they could package a guy like Jurco or Andersson if they could get a team to buy high on one of their young players that isn't developing as fast as Nyquist and Tatar. Or trade one of their goalies (Gus if they don't plan on bringing him back next year or Howard)
I guess I'm saying trust me on Zidlicky, you'll like him. You'll note little smart things he does. He settles plays in his own end well. I've been watching his game over the last couple months and he does the right things at the right time.
This is correct and a great point. A lot of these people who want superstar player X because he scores this many goals and this many assists, that's not all that goes into a GM's decision. They don't make trades just by looking at stats on nhl.com
If Detroit got Mike Green in the offseaon, great! Babcock would have a full season to teach him the required defensive responsibilities of the game, the system and the team. One thing to think about, besides his offense, Green's hockey IQ might bot be that high. He might not learn the defensive side of detroit's system before the playoffs. Shooting and scoring come naturally to Green, where defense doesn't. Zidlicky might put up some numbers, but he will for sure be in the right place at the right time defensively, and when you only have 20 games to settle in, the defensive responsibility is a lot more important to have. I hope that made some sense.
Ya, all of Pulk, March and Jurco will all be "sent to GR" on paper, in order to qualify them for the AHL playoffs. They will be "recalled" after 3PM when the roster limits are no longer set at 23, as long as they fit under the cap.
I cannot say how happy I am right now, these are two types of trades that add the right combo of what a team may need to get them over the top. All these teams "loading up" have a s*** ton more to lose if they don't win a Cup, and guess what? Last I heard only ONE team can still win the Cup, so there are 4-5 teams that loaded up this week, that are going to kicking themselves in the ass...Chicago better win this year, becuase if they don't, they are facing the same situation as 2010, they will need to dump salary to get under the cap.
What Holland did the last 24 hours just proves that he is still one of the best. I may be biased, but if you are couting what was sent in retrurn today, Detroit cam out near the top of the "winner" chart. I am very critical of Holland (to say the least) but today it just proves how much I should be less critical of him. Look at the last few years of drafting and todays deadline. Sure he paid too much for Legwand last year, but he HAD to, there was almost no way of making the playoffs with Andy as your #1 center. He tried for the Olsen twins, he tried for the big names last July, he stood his ground last year and this year when everyone wanted Mantha (and now Larkin.) This may not be a Cup winning day for us, but it was definitely a playoff push move. These guys bring experience that could push us further into the playoffs we have been since 2009.
Cheers to Ken Holland! Welcome to Hockeytown Erik and Marek!
I don't understand this year's deadline strategy. Not at all. I don't hate it, but I don't get it.
What is there to get? We picked up 2 legit veteran players and gave up prospects who are clearly not even close to playing in the NHL. We gave up a couple of picks which we can afford to do considering our prospect pool is pretty damn deep. It's all about what you can afford to give up and what you need. We needed another right handed d man and got one.
So two years the league was in such bad shape that it was shutdown with the lockout, but now let's add 4 teams? The ineptitude is mind-boggling, either Bettman was dropped on his head as I child or someone should drop him on it now.
Sorry can't edit my post for some reason but I would also say that they could only use the challenge on goals the whole reviewin the play for a penalty just seems unnessary to me
To me, reviewing penalties can drastically change the outcome of a game. See; Oct 11,2014.
I also remember another game, not even sure if it was the wings; (pretty sure it was) but crosby took a high stick from one of his own teammates and was awarded a 4 minute powerplay for high sticking. It could also be used to review dives and see if there was actual contact with the stick between legs for trips and stuff. The game is played faster then any other sport, theres nothing wrong with slowing it down for a second to correct a mistake.
You're assuming Kenny would actually pull the trigger on a trade of any kind.
Honestly, at this point I'd let Quincey go, I'd let Alfie go, and I'd fill every available spot with a kid. At least keep the damage to a minimum. Don't make it worse by making panic moves (see: Samuelsson, Legwand, etc.).