Plus-minus is a mostly useless statistic because there's too many random variables involved for it to demonstrated anything meaningful.
In 2011 Nick Lidstrom finished the season as a -2. Rafalski was the highest among D men with +11. So what does that mean? Rafi > Lidstrom?
Oh, that's also the year Lids won the Norris.
as a minus 2.
It's not a damning statistic but the fact is if you're a defensemen and you get a minus, there's at least a good chance that it was due to your poor defensive play. You can come up with a laundry list of reasons why it might not be. But at what point does the disparity between Kronwall's -6, or whatever it is now, (moving up from a shocking -10 before last week) and Quincey's +11 indicate that maybe someone is doing a better job at keeping the puck out of their own net?
And it's not a mathematical identity. 11 > -6; therefore, Quincey > Kronwall. But you can come to some qualitative intuitions based off an imprecise quantitive metric.
On the bigger picture. I think it was a mistake for Babs to say earlier in the year that the defense was Kronwall and then a committee. Kronwall's play was poorer for it and the committee showed no initiative. I haven't once in the past week seen Kronwall gesticulating and directing traffic in his own zone only to find that his man is now open and receiving a pass on route to scoring a goal.
Agreed. I really don't think Babs is all there right now.
Scratch Mursak to play Nyquist on the 4th line? Keep Bertuzzi and Franzen with Datsyuk?
Yeah, what's the deal with this? Does Babcock cop any heat in the local Detroit media for some of his decisions the past month or two? In Australia a local sports team in trouble like this would be having trouble with the media not just Joe Punter on the street.
Like I said, it's fine if you want to neg, but explain why you disagree. Folks just neg because someone says "Boooo Wings" even though a lot of times it's the truth...
It's because you don't actually make any points that are refutable; just blanket black-and-white statements. If someone says something is good/improving then you read it as "The wings are the greatest!" and passive aggressively try and throw it back in their face. I don't think anyone has really been saying 'things will be perfect with Lids and Dats back', they've been saying; 'things will get better with Lids and Dats back'. With those two out the wings just haven't had the tools to get the PP and PK on track, now they're here, we can start getting it back in shape. It doesn't mean it's going to be a top-10 PP tomorrow.
You all ***** about guys making dirty plays and people like Cooke shouldn't be playing in the NHL, and then Abby does the responsible thing and avoids a potentially dangerous play and you take the attitude "Everyone else is doing it so we should too". Pathetic