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In Topic: ECF : Tampa Bay Lightning vs. Pittsburgh Penguins

Yesterday, 10:33 AM

Back to hockey ... so who does Sullivan put in net tonight?  He put himself in quite the pickle.    

 

I was surprised they went with Fleury in the last game.  Murray has been great for them for the entire playoff run, he has one off game and he's benched before the biggest game of the year, in favor of a goalie that hasn't played in a full game in two months.  I know there's still one more game to play if Pittsburgh wins, but tonight is basically Game 7.  If the Bolts lose tonight, there's no way, they go back to Pittsburgh and win a THIRD time on the road in this series.


In Topic: ECSF : Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Washington Capitals

12 May 2016 - 12:27 PM

Crazy looking back. So many people had picked this team to win the cup.

 

"No way anyone's going to beat the Capitals".

 

I think we all underestimated Penguins. They really had been the best team in the league post all-star break. All it took was for Crosby to find his groove and for Kessel to mesh with the new team I guess.

 

This team now has Crosby, Malkin and Kessel. Two top players in the world and one of the best goal scorers in the league. 

 

Dam them!

 

After the way they finished the last few months of the regular season, I doubt anyone was underestimating them.  Its not even Crosby really, he did very little in this last series.  It's not Malkin either, it's that second line of Kessel, Bonino, Hagelin and the goaltending of Murray.  That second line gave them the depth they needed to compliment the stars and Murray is like the anti-Fleury.  Murray has every reason in the world to meltdown and does not, while Fleury has a meltdown several times in a playoff season.

 

Interesting little fact.  The Stanley Cup champion in 1976 had a rookie goalie.  The Stanley Cup champion in 1986 had a rookie goalie.  The Stanley Cup champion in 2006 had a rookie goalie.  Now it's 2016 and there's a rookie goalie that's on a huge hot streak.  We need to start a rookie goalie in 2026.


In Topic: ECSF : Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Washington Capitals

11 May 2016 - 06:38 PM

 

I suppose Ron Francis is one of the 5 greatest players ever?  Points per game is also overrated due to the era.  Ovechkin's points per game are more impressive for this era than Dionne's were back then. Ovechkin has won more individual awards and had more nominations.  

 

Their careers are only similar in that they're great players who never made the Conference Finals.  I don't believe Dionne is regarded as a top 3 or top 4 player for his era.  Ovechkin only has Crosby to compete with for best player in his era.  

 

Francis piled up a lot of points because he played for a long time and got a ton of assists.  His points per game though is pretty low.  Dionne's points per game are up there with Orr, Gretzky and Lemieux.  If Ovechkin's points per game in this era are more impressive than Dionne's, using that logic, wouldn't that make him better than Gretzky and Lemieux too?  Those two piled up a ton of points during an era when high scoring games were the norm.  Ovie has more individual awards and nominations because Dionne played in a more talented league.  It was the same way with guys like Yzerman, Stastny and Messier.  Great players, but never were going to win individual awards with guys like Lemieux and Gretzky.  Put Ovechkin in an era with Phil Esposito and Bobby Orr and he probably doesn't win very many MVP awards or scoring titles.  Dionne gets the shaft a lot because he played out in LA for so long, everyone focused on Boston, Montreal and Philly and of course, he didn't win any titles.  So he went pretty much unnoticed despite what he did during the 70's and early 80's.  I mean, the numbers don't lie, he was one of the best of his era for sure.  You're right Ovie only has Crosby to compete with for the best player in his era, showing how the league in this era has less talent than it did in the 70s.


In Topic: ECSF : Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Washington Capitals

11 May 2016 - 12:32 PM

 

BTW, I have Ovechkin ranked ahead of Dionne.  Dionne scored a ton of points, but Ovechkin dominated his era more.  

 

Really?  Dionne is 6th all time in points and 6th all time in points per game.  Bobby Orr is the only other player from that era to have a ppg average higher than him.  Dionne was higher than Esposito and LaFleur.  I think people just forget how good Dionne was because he never won a championship.


In Topic: ECF : Tampa Bay Lightning vs. Pittsburgh Penguins

11 May 2016 - 07:36 AM

This is why I'm watching hockey less and less.  If it's not the Wings, it's two teams I hate or two teams I don't even care exist.  In this case, it's the former.  The Bolts beat the Pens all three times during the regular season, but right now I can't see the Pens losing to anyone that's left.  Chicago, LA, Washington probably had the best chance to knock them off, now all are eliminated.  TB is only this far because they played a dysfunctional Wings team and a soft Isles.  Nothing they've faced has prepared them for this matchup.