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#2577676 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by rick zombo on 02 March 2015 - 02:43 PM


#2577559 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by ShanahanMan on 02 March 2015 - 01:27 PM

So, are we done for the day?

Yep, we've got our two 35+ year olds. We're good.

#2536926 9/22/14 7:00 PM. Preseason GDT - DET 2 @ PIT 1

Posted by hooon on 22 September 2014 - 11:17 PM


He doesn't remember it, but I tell him about it all the time.  He was born during that season.  So I always tell him the Wings won the Cup in Pittsburgh the year he was born.


You, good sir, are awesome. Warms my heart to see another young Wings fan getting into it. Cool custom jersey he's got too.


Didn't see the game nor the highlights, but loved the names on the scoresheet!

#2529262 When will we know about Alfie? (Legwand signed w. Sens)

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 02 July 2014 - 12:23 AM

We already know what will happen.



"I don't know why they're not coming here"

#2528217 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 01 July 2014 - 01:45 PM

Dallas is making moves, trying to improve, and players aren't refusing to sign there.


Tampa Bay is making moves, trying to improve, and players aren't refusing to sign there.


Am I sensing a theme?


People who know history know that Holland didn't build those late 90's Cup teams. He spent to maintain them (02) after they had been built by Bowman and his predecessors. Furthermore, Holland was lucky in 08 and 09. (See Joe Dumars for reference). Having the best defenseman in a generation (along with prime Dats and Z) can do that to an organization. He didn't build the Wings championships and he sure as hell can't build them now.


People shouldn't be complaining about getting fleeced in the Legwand deal. The team got fleeced in losing Yzerman and Nill.

#2497275 Injury Updates

Posted by marcaractac on 19 March 2014 - 12:17 PM

yes this sucks. But the Pens have been even worse than us. They are over 100 man games lost ahead of us! Not to mention the 20 or so points.....


Most of their injuries have been on the blue line. Their best forwards have been healthy for the most part, and their D has been suspect even when healthy. They can get away with beating teams 6-5 in the regular season. If they lost the likes of Crosby, Malkin, Sutter, Neal and Kunitz all at once, it would be a different story.

#2425075 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by dropkickshanahans on 02 July 2013 - 08:17 PM


Pretty much.  Holland is obsessed with old geysers who aren't that good anymore.  Did Bertuzzi or Samuelsson even play last season?  Why are they being given another chance to get injured?   


I remember Cleary playing, because we all made countless jokes about him throughout the year, but he actually played well in the playoffs.  But still, its time to be fully committed to a youth movement.  We'd have enough veterans with Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall to have a balanced lineup with experience and youth.


He moves like he's 44.  Ric Flair is in better shape than him.  


I'd buy a Cleary jersey if he boarded somebody and went "WOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo!!!"

#2425047 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by TigerDan on 02 July 2013 - 07:51 PM

I think using a buyout on Carlo is a waste.  IMHO, he was one of our top 4 defensemen in the playoffs, and is paid less than at least one guy who he outplayed (Quincy).  I think he could and would crack our lineup even with DeKeyser back.  Now, we are relying on Smith to step it up and Quincy to play to his potential every night vs. having a guy that came in and played rock solid in our back pocket.  And we're doing this why? To keep Samuelsson??  WTF???


I don't have too much of a problem with the Cleary deal, though I wish it was more like 2 years at 2M or 2.5M.  I know a lot of people want a star player in his place, but I'd argue that he brings some of the things to the table that we need: he'll go to the net, he plays tougher than his size and he gives 100% every time out on the ice.  He's like Rudy - I wish I could put his heart into Franzen's body.


I don't have too much of a problem with keeping Bert too.  If he's hurt, we can IR him and maybe get someone else (IR doesn't count against cap?). While if he's truly healthy, he can bring some size, grit, toughness and scoring.

#2424994 Report: Red Wings out on Lecavalier - signs with Philly 5@4.5 per

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on 02 July 2013 - 06:58 PM

Oh well.  Would have been nice to have him, however, if we had gotten him, Datsyuk and Zetteberg would have been on the same line and we're a much harder team to play against/match up against during the playoffs when they're on separate lines.  There's always Jagr.  He'll sign for just a year and it won't be for as much as Vinny.  Plus, I liked what I saw from him defensively this past season, so he could be a fit.


Also, I noticed Colo is going to be bought out.  That's kind of confusing.  We have way too many subpar forwards, holes on defense and we buyout Colo and not Sammy or Bert?  I felt like he was pretty solid for us down the stretch and into the playoffs and outplayed his $2.5 mil contract.






oh god man , cant believe couldnt find a team to take him for like a 7th round pick hes just got one year left on his deal, waste of a buyout ... how is it everyone knew the signings of coliacovo and samuelsson were a mistake except for holland

#2423002 Letang Turns Down 8x$7m

Posted by nuts2u on 28 June 2013 - 06:54 AM

This looks like "Jordan Staal Part II".  Quite frankly I'm surprised Shero made that kind of offer.  Does he not understand that one of the contributing factors to the Pens failures is the fact that they have no depth?  Crosby makes almost $9 mil per year, Malkin is over $9 mil, Fleury, Martin and Neal are all making $5 mil.  And now you want to blow another $7 mil on a one dimensional defenseman?  I think they're lucky he rejected the deal.  

Amazed they made it and even more amazed he turned it down.

#2422691 Trade/Buyout thread

Posted by Nev on 27 June 2013 - 10:13 AM


I still don't get this notion some people have that the organization would benefit from buying out one of its best scorers. Exactly who would replace him?



First - for how many more seasons is Franzen going to be a 25 goal scorer?  He's 33 right now.  He's got another SEVEN seasons with a $4M cap hit.  Once his production starts declining, since he contributes nothing else, how much longer does $4M stay good value for money?


Second - The early retirement penalties that have been brought in are a biatch.  No-one expected the likes of Franzen to see out their contracts, now if he retires early, its the Wings who get punished while he sits on his mountains of cash.


Third - I hate the message that Franzen sends to our youngsters.  Have a couple of half-decent seasons, sign a mega-bucks lifetime contract and coast your way into retirement


Fourth - As I already mentioned, we've had the best years of Franzen's contract - the years of artificially low cap hit with decent production.  The contract is only going to get worse from here on out.  If we buy him out after next season, he'll be 34 and we "only" have to pay him $12M for the remainder of his contract.


Fifth - We have lost MUCH worse players than Franzen over the years.  Many and more of them, and we've always been OK.  We'll survive without Franzen too.

#2422661 Trade/Buyout thread

Posted by Travis on 27 June 2013 - 08:56 AM

Lecavalier, Stamkos, St. louis, and Hedman


White, Bertuzzi, Sammuelsson, Cleary, Filppula, Tootoo, and Colaoccovo.

Yzerman fired by Tampa Bay. Rejoins Red Wings as assistant GM.

.......(wakes up)........


At the press conference, Yzerman tears opens his dress shirt to reveal his Red Wings sweater, super kicks Phil Esposito. Red Wings' theme music blares through the PA as Jim Ross screams, "My God! He's back! He's back! He's back!" and the show fades to black.

#2422101 Hawks new model franchise?

Posted by Nightfall on 25 June 2013 - 08:10 AM

I guess it depends on what you call a model franchise.  Every franchise has high points and low points.  If you think about it, the Hawks fans have had to endure just as much turmoil as the long time Wings fans have.  The Wings had their low point back from 67 to 83 when the Wings only made the playoffs 2 times.  Bruce Norris really did run the team into the ground.  It took Illitch years to dig out from that hole and get a cup contending team in Detroit.  Even then, i twas a full 15 years before they won the cup.


I wouldn't call Chicago a "model franchise" to be honest.  They are on the upswing though with the ownership investing in the team, Bowman at the helm, and Joel is a great coach.  IMHO, a model franchise is one that has had 20+ years of success.  It has less to do with cup wins and more on player development, community service, making the playoffs, being profitable, and so on.  The thing is that no franchise is a model franchise forever.  Teams change hands.  Ownership doesn't invest in the team like they used to.  The focus of ownership shifts.  I could go on and on here.....


The point is that I consider the Wings to be a model franchise more than Chicago.  It has nothing to do with their cup runs, but more with the years of success they have had.  Just keep in mind that nothing is forever.  In another 20 years, the Wings could be back to the "Dead Things" while Chicago has made the playoffs for 20+ consecutive seasons.  Chicago would then be a model franchise.

#2422043 Hawks new model franchise?

Posted by 8 Legged RedWing on 25 June 2013 - 01:29 AM

No. Our "worst" team in 20 years was one goal worse than them. We have no rebuild years. Our scouting and drafting and player development is still the model way to run a franchise. Let these idiots write about and think whatever they want but the Wings aren't going anywhere any time soon.

#2420706 Grand Rapids Griffins Win Calder Cup! 5-2 win in game 6

Posted by TheXym on 18 June 2013 - 08:49 PM

What was our prospect pool rated going into this year? Middle of the pack? Guess that's bound to change a little. Good job Griffins. Couldn't watch the game but followed this thread on my phone.

I wonder what centcougar thinks about the Wings prospects now....