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#2497275 Injury Updates

Posted by marcaractac on 19 March 2014 - 12:17 PM

yes this sucks. But the Pens have been even worse than us. They are over 100 man games lost ahead of us! Not to mention the 20 or so points.....

 

Most of their injuries have been on the blue line. Their best forwards have been healthy for the most part, and their D has been suspect even when healthy. They can get away with beating teams 6-5 in the regular season. If they lost the likes of Crosby, Malkin, Sutter, Neal and Kunitz all at once, it would be a different story.




#2425075 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by dropkickshanahans on 02 July 2013 - 08:17 PM

 

Pretty much.  Holland is obsessed with old geysers who aren't that good anymore.  Did Bertuzzi or Samuelsson even play last season?  Why are they being given another chance to get injured?   

 

I remember Cleary playing, because we all made countless jokes about him throughout the year, but he actually played well in the playoffs.  But still, its time to be fully committed to a youth movement.  We'd have enough veterans with Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall to have a balanced lineup with experience and youth.


 

He moves like he's 44.  Ric Flair is in better shape than him.  

 

I'd buy a Cleary jersey if he boarded somebody and went "WOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo!!!"




#2425047 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by TigerDan on 02 July 2013 - 07:51 PM

I think using a buyout on Carlo is a waste.  IMHO, he was one of our top 4 defensemen in the playoffs, and is paid less than at least one guy who he outplayed (Quincy).  I think he could and would crack our lineup even with DeKeyser back.  Now, we are relying on Smith to step it up and Quincy to play to his potential every night vs. having a guy that came in and played rock solid in our back pocket.  And we're doing this why? To keep Samuelsson??  WTF???

 

I don't have too much of a problem with the Cleary deal, though I wish it was more like 2 years at 2M or 2.5M.  I know a lot of people want a star player in his place, but I'd argue that he brings some of the things to the table that we need: he'll go to the net, he plays tougher than his size and he gives 100% every time out on the ice.  He's like Rudy - I wish I could put his heart into Franzen's body.

 

I don't have too much of a problem with keeping Bert too.  If he's hurt, we can IR him and maybe get someone else (IR doesn't count against cap?). While if he's truly healthy, he can bring some size, grit, toughness and scoring.




#2424994 Report: Red Wings out on Lecavalier - signs with Philly 5@4.5 per

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on 02 July 2013 - 06:58 PM

Oh well.  Would have been nice to have him, however, if we had gotten him, Datsyuk and Zetteberg would have been on the same line and we're a much harder team to play against/match up against during the playoffs when they're on separate lines.  There's always Jagr.  He'll sign for just a year and it won't be for as much as Vinny.  Plus, I liked what I saw from him defensively this past season, so he could be a fit.

 

Also, I noticed Colo is going to be bought out.  That's kind of confusing.  We have way too many subpar forwards, holes on defense and we buyout Colo and not Sammy or Bert?  I felt like he was pretty solid for us down the stretch and into the playoffs and outplayed his $2.5 mil contract.

 

http://prohockeytalk...out-colaiacovo/

 

 

 

oh god man , cant believe couldnt find a team to take him for like a 7th round pick hes just got one year left on his deal, waste of a buyout ... how is it everyone knew the signings of coliacovo and samuelsson were a mistake except for holland




#2423002 Letang Turns Down 8x$7m

Posted by nuts2u on 28 June 2013 - 06:54 AM

This looks like "Jordan Staal Part II".  Quite frankly I'm surprised Shero made that kind of offer.  Does he not understand that one of the contributing factors to the Pens failures is the fact that they have no depth?  Crosby makes almost $9 mil per year, Malkin is over $9 mil, Fleury, Martin and Neal are all making $5 mil.  And now you want to blow another $7 mil on a one dimensional defenseman?  I think they're lucky he rejected the deal.  

Amazed they made it and even more amazed he turned it down.




#2422691 Trade/Buyout thread

Posted by Nev on 27 June 2013 - 10:13 AM

 

I still don't get this notion some people have that the organization would benefit from buying out one of its best scorers. Exactly who would replace him?

 

 

First - for how many more seasons is Franzen going to be a 25 goal scorer?  He's 33 right now.  He's got another SEVEN seasons with a $4M cap hit.  Once his production starts declining, since he contributes nothing else, how much longer does $4M stay good value for money?

 

Second - The early retirement penalties that have been brought in are a biatch.  No-one expected the likes of Franzen to see out their contracts, now if he retires early, its the Wings who get punished while he sits on his mountains of cash.

 

Third - I hate the message that Franzen sends to our youngsters.  Have a couple of half-decent seasons, sign a mega-bucks lifetime contract and coast your way into retirement

 

Fourth - As I already mentioned, we've had the best years of Franzen's contract - the years of artificially low cap hit with decent production.  The contract is only going to get worse from here on out.  If we buy him out after next season, he'll be 34 and we "only" have to pay him $12M for the remainder of his contract.

 

Fifth - We have lost MUCH worse players than Franzen over the years.  Many and more of them, and we've always been OK.  We'll survive without Franzen too.




#2422661 Trade/Buyout thread

Posted by Travis on 27 June 2013 - 08:56 AM

Lecavalier, Stamkos, St. louis, and Hedman

For

White, Bertuzzi, Sammuelsson, Cleary, Filppula, Tootoo, and Colaoccovo.

Yzerman fired by Tampa Bay. Rejoins Red Wings as assistant GM.

.......(wakes up)........

 

At the press conference, Yzerman tears opens his dress shirt to reveal his Red Wings sweater, super kicks Phil Esposito. Red Wings' theme music blares through the PA as Jim Ross screams, "My God! He's back! He's back! He's back!" and the show fades to black.




#2422101 Hawks new model franchise?

Posted by Nightfall on 25 June 2013 - 08:10 AM

I guess it depends on what you call a model franchise.  Every franchise has high points and low points.  If you think about it, the Hawks fans have had to endure just as much turmoil as the long time Wings fans have.  The Wings had their low point back from 67 to 83 when the Wings only made the playoffs 2 times.  Bruce Norris really did run the team into the ground.  It took Illitch years to dig out from that hole and get a cup contending team in Detroit.  Even then, i twas a full 15 years before they won the cup.

 

I wouldn't call Chicago a "model franchise" to be honest.  They are on the upswing though with the ownership investing in the team, Bowman at the helm, and Joel is a great coach.  IMHO, a model franchise is one that has had 20+ years of success.  It has less to do with cup wins and more on player development, community service, making the playoffs, being profitable, and so on.  The thing is that no franchise is a model franchise forever.  Teams change hands.  Ownership doesn't invest in the team like they used to.  The focus of ownership shifts.  I could go on and on here.....

 

The point is that I consider the Wings to be a model franchise more than Chicago.  It has nothing to do with their cup runs, but more with the years of success they have had.  Just keep in mind that nothing is forever.  In another 20 years, the Wings could be back to the "Dead Things" while Chicago has made the playoffs for 20+ consecutive seasons.  Chicago would then be a model franchise.




#2422043 Hawks new model franchise?

Posted by 8 Legged RedWing on 25 June 2013 - 01:29 AM

No. Our "worst" team in 20 years was one goal worse than them. We have no rebuild years. Our scouting and drafting and player development is still the model way to run a franchise. Let these idiots write about and think whatever they want but the Wings aren't going anywhere any time soon.




#2420706 Grand Rapids Griffins Win Calder Cup! 5-2 win in game 6

Posted by TheXym on 18 June 2013 - 08:49 PM

What was our prospect pool rated going into this year? Middle of the pack? Guess that's bound to change a little. Good job Griffins. Couldn't watch the game but followed this thread on my phone.


I wonder what centcougar thinks about the Wings prospects now....


#2420515 Datsyuk agrees to 3-year extension, $22.5m total, $7.5m/year

Posted by esteef on 18 June 2013 - 10:11 AM

Best. Player. In. The. League. 

 

esteef




#2419660 2013 Stanley Cup Finals - Boston Bruins vs. Chicago Blackhawks

Posted by Dabura on 13 June 2013 - 10:17 AM

There are a lot of annoying, punchable faces in this series.




#2414099 Proud of our boys

Posted by Aznknight on 28 May 2013 - 05:23 PM

No this isn't me expecting a last game Wednesday.
I have been lucky enough to cheer for a team where every year was a competetive year. I arrived in Vancouver in 94 just after the riots and was very interested in this game called hockey. My cousin was watching the Canucks play the Wings and he was being all gooey about how this Canucks team was just one win away from winning the 'cup'. What 'cup'? The 'Stanley Cup'! The cup that caused the riots, he says. In the Philippines, we last took a stand and marched the streets, peacefully, for our rights. What is this cup that can cause a riot?

The wings won that day and my cousin was angry. I said to myself: 'I'm gonna cheer for those guys'. I don't want a team that caused riots!.
I go to school and I play hockey for the first time. I passed the puck to my goalie and i scored on my own net. My whole team was dejected but they said 'it's ok, we'll score back'. Although I scored another goal on my own net I remembered what it was like to play the game. I watched highlights on tsn and followed the wings religiously. NHL 91 was my very first video game. NHL 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98 all followed.

I put my faith in the wings. I prayed for them. I cried for them and I trusted in them. Every success they had, I felt, was also my success. I had something to believe in.

96 was a major year for me and all wings fans because this was the Yzerman goal. I remember me sitting down in front of the TV then jumping uncontrollably. It was 'our year'. Finally after losing last year. Then we face the avs and draper gets hit. We lose the series.
I was still in grade school and had been bullied so I just went home, waited for wings highlights and got my taste of success. Then March arrives and mccarty pummels lemieux, scores the winning goal and exacts the full revenge. I felt a sense of euphoria knowing that there's always a next time. We win the cup despite being underdogs to the flyers. I watch vlad's crash video. I was dejected. Next year we play our hearts out after losing a key player and sweep washington. I see Stevie put the cup on vlad's lap and wheel him around while the whole team was behind him. I cried. I get teary eyed even now. They did something more than for themselves. I applied that in my life.
Mediocre years came but I still got to watch hall of fame players wear a wings jersey. Fedorov, larionov, coffey, ciccarelli, vernon, shanny, hull, robitaille, murphy, clark, cujo.
Then 02. Hasek takes us to the finals and during the year I watched Zata and Datsyuk play alongside Hull...i knew they'd be superstars. 08 and 09 come and last year.

I reflect back and realized that I've been very lucky. I watched hall of famers, loved the game and applied everything the wings did, to my life. I go through hard times and know there will be a next time. I go through good times and enjoy it cuz there might never be that chance again. I never regretted anything. Last year was when the last of my childhood heroes left. Lids and homer. I loved them both. Then I look back at this team that they built. They're young and inexperienced still. But, like I did, believed.
In a year that 29 teams would have used to tank and get first pick, we go to second round and take the best team to 7. I never once doubted. I prepared for the worst and always expected the best. It has been a joy to watch the new era carry that torch. In retrospect, we should have been all playing golf after the season. But this team made it possible for more palpatations and for wings fans everywhere to still believe.

Let's go red wings *clap* *clap**clapclapclap*!


#2413952 Good Luck Wings.

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 May 2013 - 08:51 AM

 

The President's trophy team isn't going to lose 4 straight in the playoffs to a 7th seed, with the 4th loss being at home.  Game 5 shouldn't have been a surprise.  Game 6 was our best chance to close the series.  We had the game under control through 40 minutes, then Smith makes a rookie mistake and its tied.  Quincey's stick breaks, we're losing.  Frolik scores on a penalty shot that was a bad call.  It happens, now we have to do it the hard way.  Babcock is right to keep Smith in there.  Its time to look at the bigger picture here.  The experience he's getting from these games will help for many years down the road.  Years when we're not the 7th seed trying to beat the top two seeds just to get to the Conference Finals.  

 

You can say they "choked" all you want, but the success they've had in these playoffs will be felt for years.  Watching guys like Brunner, Nyquist, Andersson, Howard, and Kindl play in these high pressure games and play well, bodes well for us down the line.  Sure Smith is making a lot of mistakes, but he's making some nice plays too and gaining lots of experience.  The guy is only 24 years old playing in his first full NHL season.  Give him a break.  Going into these playoffs I felt like the team had a ton of holes, but after 13 playoff games, I'm not so sure that's the case anymore.  

 

Well said. Game 5 was expected. Game 6 was a significant collapse, with Smith earning the majority of the heat along with a pretty horrendous penalty shot call that, indicative of the screwy officiating, ended up the game-winner. The Wings are in a tough spot in Game 7, but last time I checked, the Hawks are also one loss away from a long summer. They've earned the 7th game at home, the Wings need to keep pushing.

 

The team is growing more than many of us could have imagined. The 3rd and 4th lines are meshing to give us the depth we thought we were missing all season. Our back-end is learning hard lessons, lessons you unfortunately only learn when the puck ends up in your net. If there have been any huge disappointments, its been some of the guys on the front end, like Franzen, and yes, Filppula (with to former getting chances with no effort, and the latter showing effort with no chances).

 

The future is bright for the 7th seeded Wings. Tomorrow they'll play for a chance to keep learning hard playoff lessons. Let's Go Wings!




#2408759 People who don't "buy in" to Corey Crawford

Posted by akustyk on 21 May 2013 - 07:29 AM

the truth is that Crawford together with Hawks defense are very solid. how much of that can be attributed just to Crawford's talent and how much is him and d-men working good together is difficult to say. but it is this combination the other team has to play against and it is working for the Hawks. period.

 

there are definitely known cases of goalies who thrived in one particular team but a trade later in their career proved fatal to their reputation, i.e. Giguere + Ducks, Vokoun + Preds, Sanford + Blues, Kiprusoff + Flames... Crawford might just be one of them, but as of now it's moot point to discuss. Wings need to get through him and his defense and make no mistake - this is a capable combination...