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#2666372 4/9 GDT : at Rangers 3, Red Wings 2

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 09 April 2016 - 02:02 PM

Never has making the playoffs felt so lousy.  Blah.  I hope getting into the playoffs will give them a new mindset or these next 4 games will be torture for us to watch.

#2665919 4/9 GDT : at Rangers 3, Red Wings 2

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 09 April 2016 - 09:32 AM

Well this has been a season of ups and downs for sure, but if we win THIS game in regulation against a bunch of the Rangers second stringers, none of the downs will matter anymore.  That's the nice thing about the playoffs, nothing that happened up to that point matters anymore, if you make it.  Its a fresh start.  A clean slate.  Here's hoping for a clean slates and 25th straight playoff appearance.   :nhl2:

#2663434 Goalie Battle

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 30 March 2016 - 07:32 AM

It should be noted that Mrazek has now played in more games this season than he has in any single season at any level.  Rookies, in pretty much every sport, have trouble with fatigue creeping in during the second half of the season.  Larkin is experiencing a bit of a slump himself.  I'm not ready to give up on Mrazek, however, all this getting chased from net business can't be good for his confidence and confidence is why Howard is playing so poorly.  

#2663432 Fixing this mess....

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 30 March 2016 - 06:40 AM

Because Mrazek has been so stellar down the stretch?


I'm all for trading Howard simple because of the cap space.  He's not playing like a $5 mil goalie.  We could get a $1 mil goalie to play just as well.  On that subject, in 2007 we made it to the conference finals with an aging Hasek making less than a mil and then back to back trips to the finals with Osgood making a little over $1 mil.  Many teams over the past 10 years have made it to the Finals with goalies that didn't make a lot of money.  If saving that money helps us boost the defense, I'm all for it.  Sign Al Montoya in the off season or see how cheap Cam Ward could be.  Then go after Luke Schenn and/or Alex Goligoski or Keith Yandle.

#2662848 Fixing this mess....

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 29 March 2016 - 12:20 PM

I am saying that right now today we are better at keeping the pucks out of our goal 18th in the NHL than we are at putting pucks in the other teams goal 22nd. Those are the numbers. 22nd in goals scored is not above average in any way shape or form. Both stats suck BTW and I am not saying that we don't need to improve both units because we do.


When we started winning cups we won because we didn't give up many goals. Most our our D were good solid stay at home types. Some also helped in the O zone. fetisov was not a high end offensive Dman, nor was Rouse, Ramsey, ward, Pushor, Vladdy, etc... Yes we had Nicky, then later added Murphy and Chelios. But we won because the D was great. Nor some of that was the Left Wing Lock, some was the F's coming back, but most of it was the solid D played by the blueline corp.


The numbers are correct, but I don't think that you're understanding why the numbers are the way they are.  If the forwards were focused more on scoring goals, rather than bailing out our defense, we would be scoring more goals.  If the defense was holding the blue line and making things happen offensively, even if that something is keeping the puck in the zone, our offensive (and defensive) numbers would be better.  I think you're underestimating the importance of having good defensemen and how they can impact a hockey team.  


Most of the Wings defensemen in the 90's were really good offensively and average-above average defensively.  We had some stay at home d-men, but they were not the reason for our success.  You mention Lidstrom, Murphy and Chelios like they were add ons to an already great defense.  They were the great defense.  Rouse, Ramsey, Pushor, Bergevin were add ons.  All the guys I mentioned in my other post, could skate with the puck, pass really well, keep the puck in the offensive zone, shoot accurately and make smart plays.  Very few of our current defensemen possess those qualities, none of them possess all of those qualities.  


Bottom line is if we improve our defense, take some of the defensive pressure off our forwards, we'll start scoring more goals.  We have a lot of good young forwards that can replace Datsyuk and Zetterberg once they retire.  I feel better about this young group of forwards taking over from D and Z than I did about D and Z taking over Yzerman, Fedorov and Shanahan's spots.  On defense though, aside from DK, I don't see anyone that's really going to step up and be what we need on the back end.  This needs to be addressed or, like I said earlier, it won't matter who is in our group of forwards because they'll need to help on defense.

#2662818 Fixing this mess....

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 29 March 2016 - 09:23 AM

ATM our D is still ranked better than our O is. One can also make the arguement that if the F's keep the puck in the O zone longer and score more that helps the D. Fact is this team needs a talent injection everywhere. No one player is going to turn that around. Not sure if 2 can do it. it is more like a 4-5 players needed thing.


I assume when you say ranked better, you're talking Goals Against vs Goals For.  You could say that the forwards keeping the puck in the offensive zone would help the D, however, when the Wings were in their glory years, we had a strong defense that could keep the puck in the offensive zone and make good passes to get it out of our own end.  Lidstrom, Rafalski, Schneider, Chelios, Fetisov, Konstantinov, Duchesne, Murphy, Coffey, etc.  Our forwards never hesitated to pass the puck back to the blueline and have one of those d-men blast it back in.  Our forwards never had to worry about whether those guys would get the puck out of their own end either.  My point being, I think, our Goals Against is ranked higher than our Goals For because of the forwards coming back to help and it's negatively affecting our scoring numbers.  It's difficult to generate offense in the other team's zone, when you can't trust your d-men to hold the blue line and you have to be back checking hard because you if you don't it could end up in your net. 


Posted by xtrememachine1 on 29 March 2016 - 06:43 AM

The ending of this game was very disappointing.  You dominate this team for 57 minutes and almost blow it.  Unreal.  They showed Blash smiling after the win, I would have been staring a hole through each and every one of them.  Play for 60 minutes.  Just one time.  Try it.  The first Buffalo goal 10 seconds after we scored the 3rd one was unbelievable.  I am SOOO tired of watching the other team score or at least get a great scoring chance right after we score.  This is on the coach.  You don't dominate for 57 minutes, play like garbage in the last 3 minutes and have it be a player problem.  Blash has got to motivate these guys, keep them focused on the task at hand and put out the guys that can accomplish that.  Babcock would have had someone's head after that ending.  Plus, it would be one thing if the team making the comeback was good, but it's Buffalo.  Buffalo.  No excuse.  They better come ready to play tonight.

#2662235 3/26 GDT : Pittsburgh Penguins at Detroit Red Wings, 2:00 PM ET

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 26 March 2016 - 03:03 PM

im in for watching the end of the wings streak today


Its a little early for "end of the streak" talk.  We still have a pretty favorable schedule and Boston is struggling just as badly as we are.  Still a lot of hockey to be played.

#2662096 3/26 GDT : Pittsburgh Penguins at Detroit Red Wings, 2:00 PM ET

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 26 March 2016 - 01:48 PM

Love having the lead after the first. A real nerve-racking game to watch with so much at stake.


Don't worry, everytime I go see these two play, the Wings lose.  Everytime I don't go, the Wings win.  I'm currently not at the Joe.  We'll be fine  ;)

#2659665 3/13 GDT : Toronto Maple Leafs at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 14 March 2016 - 12:55 PM

And what does making the playoffs do? This team can't a series of good games together and then they'll face Washington or Tampa..This wouldn't end well.

Being realistic is not throwing in the towel it's wanting necessary changes in order to set the team up for a brighter future.


Making the playoffs, at the very least, gives our young guys NHL playoff experience.  At best, a shot at the Cup.  I know that doesn't seem too realistic at the moment, but the NHL playoffs are very unpredictable.  Injuries, slumps, hot streaks, and pressure all play a factor.  As Wings fans, we should know this better than anyone.  Each of those factors led us to an early exit or a championship at some point over the past 25 years.  We nearly beat TB last year and Washington, despite all the good regular seasons they've had, have never really done anything in the history of the playoffs.  Ever.  


Being realistic is giving young players and a young coach time to develop at the NHL level.  Not everyone is a Crosby/Ovechkin level superstar that makes an immediate impact right away.  As for the "overpriced" vets, that some of you want to get rid of, they're the difference between us being a playoff team or a team like the Edmonton Oilers.  Vets help the young players get up to speed quicker.  Guys like Richards, Quincey, Helm, and Green are necessary components of a quick and successful rebuilding process.

#2659609 3/13 GDT : Toronto Maple Leafs at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 14 March 2016 - 07:09 AM

With the standings as tight as they are, losing out on two points at home against a really bad team is a tough pill to swallow.  This is rock bottom.  Having said that, its not over.  If we beat Philly and Columbus this week, it'll take away a lot of this sting.  They then have a golden opportunity to climb up the division against Florida and TB.  A lot of you are throwing in the towel and wanting to blow it all up, but we're still in a playoff spot and have a more favorable schedule than the teams we're competing with in the standings.

#2657804 3/6 GDT : Detroit Red Wings at Chicago Blackhawks, 5:00PM EST

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 06 March 2016 - 08:29 PM


And they've made deals to keep competitive and what have we really done?  I know there's not a lot out there but somehow Chicago has found a way.  Kenny just doesn't want to give up anything and what he wants to give up isn't going to get us anything.  I'm tired of the rentals.  Richards already won a cup, not much motivation there.  


They've made deals to stay competitive because the core of their championship team is intact.  Trading a few picks or prospects to win now is the right thing to do for them right now.  Doing that really isn't an option for us.  We're planning on those prospects to step up soon and take over eventually.  Trading young stars for people that can perform now isn't really going to be helpful to the overall goal.  Guys like Richards and Green are good enough to keep us qualifying for the playoffs, while being good in-locker room mentors.  

#2657775 3/6 GDT : Detroit Red Wings at Chicago Blackhawks, 5:00PM EST

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 06 March 2016 - 07:38 PM

Lots of hate for our team right now.  Let me remind you, we're playing a great team that's won 3 of the last 6 Cups, loaded with talent that's currently in their prime and we're in the process of rebuilding after winning 4 Cups in 11 years.  We're not bad, THEY are good. We have a lot of young talent, they have talent and experience.  I hate to say it as much as you hate to read it, but they should be beating us right now considering current state of each franchise.  It won't stay like that though.  We'll get better and better each year as our prospects develop.  Holland didn't make a deal because making a trade wouldn't change the outcome of this game, but it could negatively impact our team in the future.  Rebuilding takes a lot of time, we can't flip out and want to make a bunch of changes because we're losing to a team we hate.  We'll turn this around and in a few years, their superstars will have lost a step and our young stars will be entering their prime and the tables will be turned.  Remember games like these, it'll make beating them sweeter in a few years.

#2656815 2/29 GDT : Detroit Red Wings at Dallas Stars, 8:30PM EST

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 01 March 2016 - 08:55 AM

Great all around game.  I was hoping winning the outdoor game would give them a boost and it appears to have done that.  Its great to see Jimmy Howard get back into form and not only get the win, but play really well, in that win.  Sometimes all it takes a good win and performance like that to get back on track.  Don't get me wrong, he's a long way from unseating Mrazek, but Mraz can't play all the games and games he's not in, can't be automatic losses like they've been the past couple months.  Andreas Athanasiou.  This guy's speed is ridiculous.  I feel like every game now he's making a fantastic play and scores or nearly scores a goal.  Reminds me of Fedorov when he first came to the NHL.  First, Larkin, now Double A.  How many more hidden gems do we have lurking around in our system?  


Also I don't do this much but I had to see what Stars fans were saying about the game tonight. Lot of bitching about the officiating and the fans tonight. I see they didn't like all the red there.


Don't even get me started about the refs.  I remember a game against Dallas (ironically enough) where Brad May scored and the refs called it no goal because they meant to blow the whistle before he shot it in even though the whistle came WELL after the puck was shot in. https://www.youtube....h?v=_v0HSV6yIYQ  The refs are a part of the game and they usually are terrible.  Officiating didn't cost them the game, they're inability to stop Double A did.  


Once again, this western road game sounded like another home game.  Geez, I kind of wish the Wings still played in the West now.  SJ, Anaheim, Glendale and now Dallas, all very loud buildings in favor of the Wings.  I noticed there was a lot of red in the stands in the game in Pittsburgh too.  More than I'm used to seeing.  Our fan base is apparently growing even without winning a Stanley Cup.

#2653825 2/18 GDT : Red Wings at Pittsburgh Penguins, 7:00 EST

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 18 February 2016 - 11:06 PM

So I just got back from the game.  I was "lucky" enough to witness yet another disaster.  Third game in a row that I've been to that the Wings have given up 5+ goals.  Blah.  I didn't get many pics of Wings players.  I got these tickets as a birthday present for my Mom, who hasn't been to a hockey game since 93 and is a huge Pens fan.  So I mostly got pics of her salivating over Letang.  :rolleyes:


Pros: I thought we controlled most of the play in the first until that garbage bounced off Helm and into the net. Then it went downhill.  Guys never gave up, Z scored a nice goal near the end.  I don't know if you could tell on TV, but there was a lot of red in the crowd.  More than I'm used to seeing at a Pens game.  Even my Mom was like "Are we in Detroit or something?"  That was nice to see.  My Mom, of course, enjoyed her present and all 6 goals.  XO looked decent and the Nyquist line looked good.


Cons: Mrazek got lit up again.  Seems like we're in another slump.  Hopefully break out soon.  If I never hear that effin goal horn again, it won't be soon enough.  Some idiot tried to start something with me in the first period, yelling "Hey!  ***hole!  ***hole in the Zetterberg jersey!  Your Wings f***ing suck!  Hey, I'm talkin to you, ***hole!"  So classy.  I didn't even acknowledge his existence.  It was just annoying to hear him talk crap after every goal and boo obnoxiously loud after each Wings goal.  I wanted to respond, but yeah, sitting next to my Mom, probably not the best time to get into that kind of thing.  Plus, the Wings weren't exactly giving me anything to shove back in his face.


Overall, probably not the best hockey experience of my life, but my Mom was thrilled with her present and anytime I get to see the Wings in person is a good thing.