Let's remember its still October guys. Lots of time to make corrections. Those corrections do not include trading Hudler or moving Modano to the 4th line. Mo still has his speed and a cannon shot. Hudler hasn't been in the NHL for a couple years. Cleary hasn't been great either, but he always gets off to slow starts. Way too early to talk about breaking up the third line.
I want Cleary to play with Hank and Pavel, but I don't think putting Holmstrom with Modano and Hudler is going to benefit that third line at all unfortunately.
Most likely not, but I do like the idea of putting someone else with Z and D. I saw Helm play a couple shifts with them and looked good. I'd be really interested to see what that top line looks like without Homer.
they are gonna ban the blackhawks piece of s*** "Dut da da Dut da da Dut da da da da da da Dut" stupidf****** goal song.
That is the most annoying song ever. I remember the first time I heard it and thought "Wow! That's a dumb song", then the Hawks scored again and I'm like "Seriously?? After every goal?" If I was a Hawks fan, I'd have to watch every home game with the sound off.
I used the hate the Ducks, but with Pronger and Niedermayer gone, there's not as much to hate. I actually used to like the Pens as my second favorites with Lemieux, Jagr and Francis, but this "new generation" annoys the crap out of me. People around me say that I don't like the Pens because they beat my Red Wings, but the truth is regardless of the outcome of that series, I would not like the Pens today. The crap they pulled in Game 5 was disgusting. It showed very poor sportsmanship. I had high hopes for Crosby when he first entered the league. He idolized Yzerman and was living with Lemieux, my two favorite players and he doesn't act like either of them. So I hate the Pens, for now. At least until all these dbags leave the team.
I think this is bulls***, why would they "approve" the contract then fine the team afterwards!
Talk about a mixed message.
Yeah, I'm confused by this too. The deal the NHL rejected isn't that much different from the one that they agreed to. Now they're getting fined and losing draft picks? At least it wasn't $3 mil in cap space.
No not quite. I visit that forum every now and it pales in comparison to this one. I wanted to see their reaction to the whole Kovalchuk situation and there was hardly anything. LetsGoPens.com is pretty much all about the Pens. Its Pens talk and ONLY Pens talk. In addition to a lot of Wings news, there's tons of hockey news in general here. During the trade deadline and the start of the free agency period, I just come here for news. I know someone will have seen it on TV, a website or heard it on the radio and post on here.
I'm just wondering who here is old enough to be a Wings fan, or remember, before 1997? 2009 was bad, but as a fan since the late 1980's, it wasn't the worst for me. 1994, 1995, and 1996 was much worse.
After winning the cup, playoff defeats, for me, were easier to take.
94 was bad because it was a huge upset, but it was just the first round and we knew this team was going to be great in the very near future. 95 was really disappointing after the way they smashed through everyone, but I mean... they were swept. They weren't the better team. 96 was bad because we had the greatest record of all time, but again, that wasn't the Finals. 2009 was the worst in my opinion. We had a MUCH better team and despite the injuries and non-calls, we were within one game of the Cup. The Stanley Cup was in our building and the biggest d-bag in the NHL lifts it. That's about as bad as it gets.
What hurts about the loss isn't the loss, its how it happened. The Wings were clearly the more talented team, even Pens fans will admit to that, but we had tons of injuries, the instigator/suspension with Malkin thing, the 6 guys on the ice thing, Talbot slashing Datsyuk's broken foot, the Crosby taking cheap shots at Z, pretty much the whole Pens team gooning it up in Game 5, Talbot is their "hero" in Game 7. If the Pens had played a clean series and won because they were a better team or a more talented team, it would be easier. But losing to a team that acts like a bunch of dbags and watching Captain WhinyFace lift the Cup in the Joe, is what stings.
My wife would probably fit in the category of casual fan. She knows the names of the top players and Detroit and the Joe Louis Arena are special places to us because we got engaged after a Wings game in a hotel not far from the Joe. But she doesn't watch the games with me because she says I'm "too intense" and when the Pens play the Wings I always hear, "You live in Pittsburgh. You should be cheering for the Penguins!" She doesn't like the pressure of being a Wings fan in Pittsburgh. All her friends are (bandwagon) Pens fans and she doesn't want to be the odd one out. After 24 years of being a fan, I'm used to the me against the world scenario.
Absolutely not. The NHL has too many teams as it is now. Ever since the Columbus, Nashville, Minnesota, Atlanta expansion there has been a noticeable drop in the quality of the teams. Take a look at the teams of the 80's and the early to mid 90's. They were loaded with talent. There were 30 goal scorers on the third line. Plus, every team was competitive and had stars worth paying to see. What players on Nashville, Minnesota and Atlanta are worth the price of the ticket right now? Columbus has Rick Nash, otherwise they wouldn't have anyone worth watching either. If anything, the NHL needs less teams to improve as a product.
They can examine the contract for Z and Mule all they want, no way should they be "withdrawn". Lidstrom is playing right now at age 40. Chelios was playing for us till he was 47. Hasek played with us when he was 43. Yzerman played when he was 40. Zetterberg and Franzen are signed till 40 which is a realistic age to still be playing, at least on this franchise.
I keep reading in the comments that Pens fans believe they're hated because they're good. Its like, "No, your team is hated because they're full of whiny, arrogant, obnoxious d-bags." The Lemieux-Jagr-Francis teams were not hated and they were good.
As for the Wings being hated, its jealousy. The Wings built another Stanley Cup contender through the draft while at the same time won Stanley Cups. Meanwhile, teams like Toronto and NYI have had high draft picks for years and still suck.
The blog post should have been "Which teams to you really hate?" not "Which teams are you tired of losing to?"
I'd love to see Kariya in a Wings uniform, the guy can still fly and still has a great shot. But the bottom line is he'll want more money than we can pay, especially now with the whole Modano, Helm, Abdelkader situation. Its a good thought, but its not practical.