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#2317221 Holland waiting for the CBA?

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 09 July 2012 - 06:24 AM

"There's a small list of players out there and a lot of teams in the market," Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said. "We're happy that we got the guys that we did on July 1."
That day, when unrestricted free agency began, has been the highlight of the summer for the Red Wings.
They signed goaltender Jonas Gustavsson, and forwards Mikael Samuelsson, Jordin Tootoo and Damien Brunner.
"We like our team, we like who we have," Holland said. "We'll continue to look over the market, make our (phone) calls, and continue to try and get better."


Definitely disappointing to read something like this come out of Holland's mouth. It sounds like every other year. However, its not like he's going to publicly come out and be like "WE NEED TO MAKE SOME MOVES!!!". That kind of destroys his ability to make deals.


#2316266 St. James: Wings have inquired about Rick Nash

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 06 July 2012 - 09:23 AM

Columbus is looking to rape the Red Wings from the way it sounds.

If Columbus wants our entire farm system, well that's too bad for them. We're not giving up everybody for Nash.

Would you trade Flip, Franzen, and Nyquist for Nash? Hell, IMHO, Flip, Smith, and Nyquist is a HUGE price to pay for Nash.

Would I make that deal? Absolutely. Franzen and Flip's combined salaries would make Nash's cap hit almost non-existent. Not to mention, Flip is a UFA next summer. I would think Columbus would want an extension in place before a trade, but if not, we could always get him right back next year. Hate to lose Nyquist and Smith, but I'll always take proven talent over unknown commodities.


#2315629 St. James: Wings have inquired about Rick Nash

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 05 July 2012 - 11:08 AM

Wings aren't gonna get Nash. I can't see how any of you can think otherwise. Traded to a division rival? Just not gonna happen.


For starters, we're not really a "rival". The Wings are a first place team, the Jackets are a lottery pick team. Both franchises are at different points in development. Its not like trading Nash to the Wings now will screw them out of a division crown. Second, we'll be giving them players too. Whether it be Franzen, Filppula, Smith, Jurco, Tatar, or whomever, we're going to have to deal with those players when we play them. The players we would be giving them are players we're counting on to be stars in the future. Its not like its a salary dump here. The Wings want to be good now and we get a player that's good now. The Jackets want to be good in the future and we give them players that should be good in the future. Both teams would be getting what they want and need and that's the point of trading right?


#2314228 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 04 July 2012 - 08:36 AM

As much as I want Suter and or Parise on this team, people need to realize than not everyone wants to sign with the Red Wings...

Folks need to step back and think clearly without any emotions...

We will know soon enough it seems


I get that. There are plenty of attractive options out there for these two players, but if they want to be on a good team that can contend for a Cup now and play together, the Wings are the best bet. We're still one of the elite teams in this league and we have tons of cap space to not only sign them, but add even more. Logically, the Wings make the most sense if they are in fact trying to play together and be on a winning team. The Pens would be a great option, but signing both doesn't seem likely without having to take less money and even if they did that, they would be right against the cap. The Wild would be a feel good come home story, but its the Wild. We've made it to the Finals as many times as the Wild have made it to the playoffs (3). Would you feel comfortable signing a life time deal with a franchise that has that kind of track record? Ask Rick Nash how he feels about it now.

While obviously we WANT Parise and Suter here and we'd love to have them here for our own personal reasons, it also makes logical sense to play in Detroit as well.


#2313975 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 03 July 2012 - 07:56 PM

I just know yzerman or lidstrom wouldn't pull this


They might be doing this if they were both free agents and wanted to get the best deal to play together on the same team.

I really don't like everyone attacking these players character because we're in day 3 of the UFA period and they haven't signed yet. These talented players, who are interested in joining our team and possibly wearing the winged wheel for the next decade, need some time to think about what is the biggest decision of their professional career. It shouldn't be taken lightly and they need to take everything into account. If they choose us, great. If not, oh well, good luck to them wherever they go. Being pissed at a couple of players that COULD still be Red Wings because they need a little extra time to decide where they want to play is ignorant. We're Red Wings fans, let's act like the franchise and show some class and patience.


#2313948 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 03 July 2012 - 07:21 PM

If it's true that the Wild contingent picked up Suter's agent on the way to visit him, that does not look at all good. I'd love to be wrong on this.

Please tell me there's something I don't understand about how these things work. :unhappy:


He was already in Minnesota, so its not like they made a special trip to get him. Honestly, I can't see him signing with the Wild over us. Enter into a long term contract with a mediocre team? I know that maybe there's this feeling that "Hey I can be a pioneer and make this franchise great", but I bet Rick Nash felt that way a few years ago too. Nothing worse than watching a talented player waste away the prime of his career on a bad team.


#2313846 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 03 July 2012 - 04:45 PM

Is this kind of D worth 90 million?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4eFd3nzj7M

esteef


Well there you go. If he signs with the Wings, he won't be getting humiliated by Datsyuk anymore. lol


#2313817 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 03 July 2012 - 04:22 PM

If I was llitch I'd tell Kenny if they haven't signed by 3pm Thursday we start seeking other options.


For all we know the hold up could be because Parise and Suter are trying to get good deals from the same team so they can play together.


#2313812 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 03 July 2012 - 04:19 PM

My thought is Suter wanted $100 mil. The Wings offered $80 mil. He called the Wings and "I want to play for Detroit but $20 mil is too much of a gap. Up it to $90 mil and I'll take it." So they did. Why haven't they announced it? If the Wings are going to sign Parise too, they're going to announce them together. Probably wishful thinking, but it does make sense.


#2312723 Parise Watch [update x2]: Red Wings OUT of Running

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 02 July 2012 - 10:49 AM

If I was Parise and wanted to win a Stanley Cup, where would I go?

Pittsburgh has Crosby and Malkin. That top line would be a killer. On top of that, I have a cup winning goalie on the back end, and a solid defensive core.

Seems like a very easy decision. Pittsburgh is much closer to a stanley cup right now than Detroit is.


While I agree that Pittsburgh is a good choice, I wouldn't put them above Detroit. Solid defensive core? Did you see the first round? Cup winning goalie? Yeah, SJ has one of those too. While the Wings haven't made it beyond the 2nd round since '09, the Pens have lost 3 of their last 4 playoffs series since '09.

I don't know why so many people seem to think the Pens are a near sure-thing.


We want to be pleasantly surprised. :tounge:


#2312603 Wings may trade Johan Franzen for Rick Nash?

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 02 July 2012 - 07:29 AM

BUT do we really like that idea of giving up a player like Filppula who is a pretty rare two-way talent in his own right, as well as other roster players and great prospects we've groomed ourselves, AND 1st round picks? Columbus has already said it would take a bombshell of a deal for them to trade to the Wings.


Absolutely. We've demonstrated year after year that 1st round picks don't really mean anything us. We get quality players in every round of the draft. Losing Filppula and probably Franzen too, would be tough, but you're getting Rick Nash here. A young goal scoring power forward that can put up 40-50 goals easily with Datsyuk or Zetterberg. You know what they say, you've got to break a few eggs to make an omelet. As I've mentioned in other posts, acquiring Nash would like when we acquired Brendan Shanahan. We gave up Keith Primeau and Paul Coffey, a couple of important parts to their success back in those days, but it wasn't enough to win them a championship. Shanny put them over the top.


#2310868 St. James: Wings have inquired about Rick Nash

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 28 June 2012 - 08:06 PM

no way he comes here. Holland doesn't blow anyone out of the water. He's my favorite non Red Wing but being in the same division just would be too much for Howson to accept and trade the face of their franchise to a division rival.


Too bad realignment couldn't have helped out with that.

Its good to see Holland being aggressive though. Asking about Nash leads me to believe he's looking to shake things up or make some serious upgrades to this team. Bringing in Nash, to me, would be like when we brought in Brendan Shanahan. He was a great goal scorer, in his prime and desperately wanted to play for a contender. I like to think it would have a similar effect on this team.


#2310242 Shane Doan to test free agency

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 26 June 2012 - 08:55 PM

Doan is the exact type of player we need for the playoffs. Relentless, tough, passionate and will literally do whatever it takes to win. I'll take him and another forward over Parise.


#2310239 Parise Likely Out. Next Options

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 26 June 2012 - 08:52 PM

$10 mil? How many Art Ross and Hart trophies has he won? Ridiculous. If he signs for that anywhere, that will kill whomever salary cap situation and make the team terrible. Which is why he won't sign for that. Just last year Brad Richards signed for less than $7 mil and he puts up a lot more points than Parise. He should be a $7-7.5 mil a year guy. Anything more is over payment and that franchise is screwing themselves.


#2309698 Pens Targeting Suter and Parise

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 25 June 2012 - 11:01 AM

Here's the flip of this topic. Pens fans talking about us getting Parise and Suter...

http://www.letsgopen...php?f=1&t=59084