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#2313975 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 03 July 2012 - 07:56 PM

I just know yzerman or lidstrom wouldn't pull this

They might be doing this if they were both free agents and wanted to get the best deal to play together on the same team.

I really don't like everyone attacking these players character because we're in day 3 of the UFA period and they haven't signed yet. These talented players, who are interested in joining our team and possibly wearing the winged wheel for the next decade, need some time to think about what is the biggest decision of their professional career. It shouldn't be taken lightly and they need to take everything into account. If they choose us, great. If not, oh well, good luck to them wherever they go. Being pissed at a couple of players that COULD still be Red Wings because they need a little extra time to decide where they want to play is ignorant. We're Red Wings fans, let's act like the franchise and show some class and patience.

#2313948 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 03 July 2012 - 07:21 PM

If it's true that the Wild contingent picked up Suter's agent on the way to visit him, that does not look at all good. I'd love to be wrong on this.

Please tell me there's something I don't understand about how these things work. :unhappy:

He was already in Minnesota, so its not like they made a special trip to get him. Honestly, I can't see him signing with the Wild over us. Enter into a long term contract with a mediocre team? I know that maybe there's this feeling that "Hey I can be a pioneer and make this franchise great", but I bet Rick Nash felt that way a few years ago too. Nothing worse than watching a talented player waste away the prime of his career on a bad team.

#2313846 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 03 July 2012 - 04:45 PM

Is this kind of D worth 90 million?



Well there you go. If he signs with the Wings, he won't be getting humiliated by Datsyuk anymore. lol

#2313817 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 03 July 2012 - 04:22 PM

If I was llitch I'd tell Kenny if they haven't signed by 3pm Thursday we start seeking other options.

For all we know the hold up could be because Parise and Suter are trying to get good deals from the same team so they can play together.

#2313812 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 03 July 2012 - 04:19 PM

My thought is Suter wanted $100 mil. The Wings offered $80 mil. He called the Wings and "I want to play for Detroit but $20 mil is too much of a gap. Up it to $90 mil and I'll take it." So they did. Why haven't they announced it? If the Wings are going to sign Parise too, they're going to announce them together. Probably wishful thinking, but it does make sense.

#2312723 Parise Watch [update x2]: Red Wings OUT of Running

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 02 July 2012 - 10:49 AM

If I was Parise and wanted to win a Stanley Cup, where would I go?

Pittsburgh has Crosby and Malkin. That top line would be a killer. On top of that, I have a cup winning goalie on the back end, and a solid defensive core.

Seems like a very easy decision. Pittsburgh is much closer to a stanley cup right now than Detroit is.

While I agree that Pittsburgh is a good choice, I wouldn't put them above Detroit. Solid defensive core? Did you see the first round? Cup winning goalie? Yeah, SJ has one of those too. While the Wings haven't made it beyond the 2nd round since '09, the Pens have lost 3 of their last 4 playoffs series since '09.

I don't know why so many people seem to think the Pens are a near sure-thing.

We want to be pleasantly surprised. :tounge:

#2312603 Wings may trade Johan Franzen for Rick Nash?

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 02 July 2012 - 07:29 AM

BUT do we really like that idea of giving up a player like Filppula who is a pretty rare two-way talent in his own right, as well as other roster players and great prospects we've groomed ourselves, AND 1st round picks? Columbus has already said it would take a bombshell of a deal for them to trade to the Wings.

Absolutely. We've demonstrated year after year that 1st round picks don't really mean anything us. We get quality players in every round of the draft. Losing Filppula and probably Franzen too, would be tough, but you're getting Rick Nash here. A young goal scoring power forward that can put up 40-50 goals easily with Datsyuk or Zetterberg. You know what they say, you've got to break a few eggs to make an omelet. As I've mentioned in other posts, acquiring Nash would like when we acquired Brendan Shanahan. We gave up Keith Primeau and Paul Coffey, a couple of important parts to their success back in those days, but it wasn't enough to win them a championship. Shanny put them over the top.

#2310868 St. James: Wings have inquired about Rick Nash

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 28 June 2012 - 08:06 PM

no way he comes here. Holland doesn't blow anyone out of the water. He's my favorite non Red Wing but being in the same division just would be too much for Howson to accept and trade the face of their franchise to a division rival.

Too bad realignment couldn't have helped out with that.

Its good to see Holland being aggressive though. Asking about Nash leads me to believe he's looking to shake things up or make some serious upgrades to this team. Bringing in Nash, to me, would be like when we brought in Brendan Shanahan. He was a great goal scorer, in his prime and desperately wanted to play for a contender. I like to think it would have a similar effect on this team.

#2310242 Shane Doan to test free agency

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 26 June 2012 - 08:55 PM

Doan is the exact type of player we need for the playoffs. Relentless, tough, passionate and will literally do whatever it takes to win. I'll take him and another forward over Parise.

#2310239 Parise Likely Out. Next Options

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 26 June 2012 - 08:52 PM

$10 mil? How many Art Ross and Hart trophies has he won? Ridiculous. If he signs for that anywhere, that will kill whomever salary cap situation and make the team terrible. Which is why he won't sign for that. Just last year Brad Richards signed for less than $7 mil and he puts up a lot more points than Parise. He should be a $7-7.5 mil a year guy. Anything more is over payment and that franchise is screwing themselves.

#2309698 Pens Targeting Suter and Parise

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 25 June 2012 - 11:01 AM

Here's the flip of this topic. Pens fans talking about us getting Parise and Suter...


#2309522 Zach Parise

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 24 June 2012 - 04:11 PM

How do you figure? I'm extremely discouraged by this cap clearing stuff Pittsburgh is up to. Datsyuk and Zetterberg will be 34 and 32 this season. Crosby and Malkin will be 25 and 26 are a better pair of players comparing them as pairs. Crosby and Parise are friends, from his perspective it seems like a no brainer considering the length of time you're virtually guaranteed to be a contender.

I don't know if its a good idea to be committing yourself to two more big long term deals and pressing right up against the cap when Crosby and Malkin's contracts are going to need extensions over the next couple years, not to mention they have a bunch of guys unsigned after next year.

#2309240 2012 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 23 June 2012 - 01:41 PM

Just got back from the draft. My son and I didn't get Stevie to autograph his birth certificate, but we got to see the Stanley Cup, had custom made Upper Deck cards of us and NHL posted our picture on Twitter! Al in all it was a pretty awesome day!


#2309066 2012 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 22 June 2012 - 09:56 PM

Rumor on twitter is that Pittsburgh is looking into trading for Suters rights. LGW will be set on fire if that happens

They can trade for his rights all they want, he already said he doesn't want to play in the East. I mentioned in another post, the Pens have 7 free agents next year, one of which is Crosby, freeing up a couple million in cap space doesn't give them the ability to go on a spending spree.

#2309056 2012 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 22 June 2012 - 09:45 PM

I like how Yahoo is using the Caps and Lightning's old logos for their draft page. I'm surprised to see the Jets logo instead of the Thrashers at this point.