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In Topic: Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

10 March 2014 - 08:31 PM

 

He didn't perform well in 19 games in the World Championships (which is made up of junior players) but did perform well in more than 19 games in the AHL (made up of professionals).  I'm not sure what your point is here?  That a couple years ago, in a small sub-sample, he didn't perform well?  Agreed.  But it's equally true that he's now playing much better hockey in a much more difficult league.

 

Any value he lost (not sure he did), he regained by being a stud over his last 36 games with the Griffins.

 

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In Topic: Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

10 March 2014 - 02:04 PM

 

If jarnkrok is expendable as you say we would of been better off putting Him in a package deal for a defensemen we needed not for legwand

I'm done arguing with you about the rest of the stuff because we been over it all 10 times.. But this part shows you clearly have no credibility in knowing what your talking about. It won't get the point across to you but everyone else reading will see it.

We WERE going to get a defense-men until we lost all of our centers to injury. A center is MUCH more important than a D in order for this team to make the playoffs. The D we have now can get the job done just like they did last year, the centers we are left with could not. Franzen was being used as a our first line center and Andersson was centering our second line. You do realize how little games are left and our centers are going to be out most of the season if not all of it. You do realize how important centers are right? You do realize center is the most important role on the team to have quality players filling the position? You cannot win in the NHL without decent centers. We have no choice but to get a very capable center if we are going to make the playoffs. Picking up a D would have not helped us much. Our D isn't the best but it's an NHL caliber core that can get the job done. The centers we had left injury free were not NHL caliber. Do you understand hockey? Do you understand how important it is for this franchise to make the playoffs? Whether we make it or not we had to make a move to give ourselves a chance. Holland did exactly that, he made a move that gives us a chance and he made a good one. It was a move that HAD to be made. We don't trade often like the chart on the last page indicates, but we had to do this. It is a business and this business has a lot on the line.


In Topic: Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

10 March 2014 - 01:07 PM

Who else do you think we could have traded? You want to trade Mantha, Tatar, Jurco? Who? You have to at least give some value. You can't trade a player that has absolutely no chance of becoming an NHL player. We don't have to much left for forwards that have any trade value. We have D but we can't afford to give up D prospects. Jarnkrok was one of the lower prospects on forward we had that has some value and some potential. Jarnkrok was expendable. We have 600 centers that are going to be around for a few years. I don't think we are going to have all of them injured again like this. This year has been a real unlucky season.


In Topic: Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

10 March 2014 - 01:01 PM

 

I do think we overpaid and my own personal believe is we could of found another way to of landed him

Yeah because the trade didn't finish and submit to the league within 1 minute of the dead line.

 

 

 

Now like you said he might be a nobody or he might be a star or a 50-60 pt guy ..... Which I'd take btw ... Isn't that what we're hoping to get from filppula all these years? If janrkrok becomes a 15goals 50-60 pt type player we lost

 

At base case scenario he becomes as good as Legwand is now? Yeah we really lost that one.


He was one of the better players in the swedish elite league for a few yrs and helped win the championship for his team ....and one thing no one seems to have mentioned is this is his first year in North America it takes times for European players to adjust to the smaller rinks

Our own lidstrom said it took him a whole year to adjust to the nhl and he's a hall of fame player and a legend and were ready to say jarnkrok is a bust after 40 or so games? I just think it's a big risk to ship him when he's finally turning things around

As for his weight there's nhl players who are shorter and weight less who are pretty good


Anyways like Kip said only time will tell

 

No I'm judging him because he didn't perform at the world cup and was a 4th line player. You know that thing were all great NHL players performed well at? That's where you get a look at your players for the first time and how they compete with and against other highly praised NHL prospects. That's where Jarnkrok lost value and its for good reason.


In Topic: Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

10 March 2014 - 12:50 PM

Please tell more more about how Jarnkrok in the past 2 years was showing any signs of becoming a top six forward. Sweden WC-A stats over two years, 2 points in 19 games. Probability of success C, Talent 7.5. A couple years ago he was highly praised for his potential, he hasn't lived up to his potential so far. WHY do you people think he was SO good? Please give me legit sources claiming he was going to take Zetterbergs spot or be anything close to that.

He was worth Legwand, especially the situation the team is in needing a center so badly if we have any hope of making the playoffs. You guys just don't understand the side effects of this team missing the playoffs for the first time in 23 years and how it will affect our young guys. Who we are training to become winners. You really want this teams mindset next year to get back into the playoffs? Or do you want it to be make the playoffs for the 24th time and continue and hand off that tradition to our young guys.