I think the helmet one is dumb. If you're in your own end on a pk defending and someone checks you, knocks the helmet off, somehow you deserve a penalty because you don't want to leave your team even more shorthanded to go put the helmet back on or go back to the bench?
I think the bottom line right now is that the perceived price for Green is a wee bit high - management (specifically Trotz) is maintaining that Green factors into their future plans. Posturing or not, it's being done to give the guy more value. I think the only way Detroit gets him right now is by prying him away from Washington via overpayment. If that means moving Tatar+, or any of the bigger names, count me out for now.
If Green could be had for, let's say, Andersson, Pulkkinen + 2nd that would be the maximum that I would want to pay, personally. And giving up that 2nd is scary, as Detroit is already without a 3rd rounder. That may not be enough in Washington's eyes, and it likely isn't right now. I actually like what Green brings, but he comes with a lot of risks - risks that should bring his price tag down. The issue is that the Caps don't have to move him right now, and Detroit is clearly desperate for a RH, offensive defender. At this moment, Washington has the leverage. IMO, it would be silly to make a move for Green until/if his price goes down some.
Euro...please see the post above yours...I am not bashing Canada in anyway or discrediting the Gold's....
What is with people being so combative today? Sheesh! Babcock is the issue and Holland plays along. If this is not the issue, then why are UFA's shunning us when they never used to? Simple answer, Holland offers less money and players don't like Babcock. If Babcock was such a super great coach and all players he won Gold with admire and long to play for him, then why are the ones that were UFA's the 8 years knocking on the door to get here?
...and yes, I would take that bridge! I could double the fee and make a little extra money!
You can't be serious....
You take extremely hard-lined stances on the most ridiculous, knee-jerk (doing my best to use polite words) opinions and then get all surprised and defensive when everybody (but Richdg or Degra55) disagrees with you.
I've seen this on several rumor sites, but nothing from known credible sources yet. It's another case of "oh, this guy was once known for his offense and the Red Wings need a puckmover so... 1 + 1 =" kind of situation. He might be able to find his game again in this system but I'd rather let one of the kids play unless MDZ comes as a 7th d-man and we trade Kindl.
So, Holland fails miserably and his fallback is to give a raise to a d-man no other team wanted to sign early in free agency? He's the most predictable and non-risk taking GM in professional sports right now.
I haven't been on the bandwagon before, but today I'm there. Ken Holland needs to go.
The bottom pairing was the issue. Not Q. Quincey and Dekeyser were actually very solid together. Sure he is overpaid, but it's free agency. Everyone is. People really need to chill. Other UFA's didn't want to come here. Get over it.
Except isn't Q headed for the 3rd pairing?
Kronwall - Ericsson
Dekeyser - Smith
Kindl + Quincey
If you don't see the second bolded part as an issue... something to worry or fret or freakout over... Well, then I don't know what to say.
Damn you Kenny Holland...you offered better contracts but didn't do some kind of voodoo s*** to get guys to come here....seriously, WTF do you want Holland to do? He made better or equal offers and lost players to teams that are no better or worse than we are.
What exactly should he do?
I want Holland to do his job well. He's been flailing over the last several years. The reason they're not coming here is because players aren't excited at the prospect of playing for the Red Wings anymore. That's on Holland.
No one is saying his job isn't extremely difficult, but it's that way for 29 other GM's. As I said in another thread, replace Holland's name with Dan Cleary. Cleary outworks just about everyone on the team which is admirable but he simply doesn't get the results to be competitive at the NHL level.
Is that acceptable because he's a great guy who's trying with everything he's got?
I don't care how hard Holland tried. Results matter. He's not getting any.